Salvation Not Possible Without Works
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Jesus did not say one enters the kingdom by doing nothing but then once in the kingdom does God's will.
Mt 7:21 who enters the kingdom of heaven?
1) those that have faith only?
2) those that DOETH the will of God?
Just because those people were NOT doing God's will but their own will does not undo verse 21 that say the ones that enter the kingdom of heaven are the ones that DOETH God's will.
Yep, faith only advocates dismiss Jesus saying the one's that enter the kingdom are the ones that DOETH the Father's will.
Mt 7:21 who enters the kingdom of heaven?
1) those that have faith only?
2) those that DOETH the will of God?
Just because those people were NOT doing God's will but their own will does not undo verse 21 that say the ones that enter the kingdom of heaven are the ones that DOETH God's will.
Yep, faith only advocates dismiss Jesus saying the one's that enter the kingdom are the ones that DOETH the Father's will.
Since we are dead how can we do anything? Ever seen a dead person do anything? Dead in trespass and sin. Dead men can do no works. The Holy Spirit must quicken the soul before anything can happen. Ephesians 2 tells you these things.
Repentance is the result not the cause of salvation. Believing comes from hearing and hearing Gods word. Man received the ability to choose when he fell in the garden. Man received the knowledge of good and evil. Because of this man must choose. John 3:18-21 describes the choosing.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Repentance is the result not the cause of salvation. Believing comes from hearing and hearing Gods word. Man received the ability to choose when he fell in the garden. Man received the knowledge of good and evil. Because of this man must choose. John 3:18-21 describes the choosing.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
I just looked again, and the bible still associates works with salvation, you did not explain it away:
Rev 20:12,13 men will be judge according to their WORKS, therefore whether one receives salvation or condemnation depends upon his WORKS.
James 2:25 Rahab justified by WORKS
James 2:24 a man is justified by WORKS
James 2;21 Abraham justified by WORKS
Not only is the word "works" associated with salvation, the words 'obey" 'obedience' 'doeth' are associated with salvation, Heb 5:9; Mt 7:21, etc, etc.
Rev 20:12,13 men will be judge according to their WORKS, therefore whether one receives salvation or condemnation depends upon his WORKS.
James 2:25 Rahab justified by WORKS
James 2:24 a man is justified by WORKS
James 2;21 Abraham justified by WORKS
Not only is the word "works" associated with salvation, the words 'obey" 'obedience' 'doeth' are associated with salvation, Heb 5:9; Mt 7:21, etc, etc.
Yes.
Heb 11:8 "By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went."
Heb 11:17 "By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,"
Abraham's faith would have been dead if it did not have obedience. If Abraham had faith only, he would not have done the work of either leaving his land house and kindred nor the work of offering Issac and therefore could not be an heir to those promises.
Heb 11:8 "By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went."
Heb 11:17 "By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,"
Abraham's faith would have been dead if it did not have obedience. If Abraham had faith only, he would not have done the work of either leaving his land house and kindred nor the work of offering Issac and therefore could not be an heir to those promises.
Faith only is in contrast/total opposite to what the bible teaches about salvation.
By works a man is justified not by faith only
Christ is the author of salvation unto all them that obey Him not unto all them that have faith only
Those that enter the kingdom are the ones that DOETH the will of God, not those that DOETH NOT the will of God.
.....and that old straw man gets brought out of the closet that accuses me of doing 'self righteousness' when time and again I have quoted Rom 10:3 that proves one cannot be saved by doing his OWN righteousness but is saved by submitting/obeying GOD'S righteousness.....
This is one straw man that will not die.
Apples to oranges.
Did God owe you salvation like you were owed your paycheck? No. Therefore because of God's grace he has allowed you the opportunity to be saved through faith. So faith is a gift God has allowed you to have, you did not earn that gift of faith, God did not owe you that gift of faith but God has allowed you to have that gift of faith due to His grace.