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Technically ,you are correct, BUT, Biblically. only, half correct. The first faith in our heart is not a true saving faith ,it is only a temporal faith in Jesus, until we are born of Jesus to a full faith of repentance, trust and obedience, for a life of faith and obedience. ,caused by the New Birth of the Spirit.. otherwise there would be no truth too the statement that some have made "shipwreck to the faith", and others who "fall from grace"; a temporary faith can not save . Love Hoffco
Hebrews 4:1-2
1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Both Word and Spirit work together. One without the other is vanity.
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63
1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Both Word and Spirit work together. One without the other is vanity.
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63
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You must be able to read minds. You are only assuming that many who raise their hands do so for attention. Most the time when someone raises their hands everyone else should be closing their eyes? At least this is what I notice. And I don't know many people who will go up to the front because they want attention. MOST people avoid going to the front of the church as much as possible.
What a bleak outlook. Not everyone will "stick" according to the parable of the Sower. It is up to us, the local church, to love and disciple people who have professed their faith for the first time. Are you helping in that department?
As for me, I give God the glory for every person who makes a profession of faith, and we as a church body work together to disciple them in the things of God. Judging whether they are sincere or not is not for me to do.
As for me, I give God the glory for every person who makes a profession of faith, and we as a church body work together to disciple them in the things of God. Judging whether they are sincere or not is not for me to do.
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look it up. you just have to be able to read, not read minds....
there's been many many 'studies' or follow-ups... see what "they say"(the former hand raisers) themselves, ...
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that's not even the best evidence...
look at some on this forum .... they raised their hand perhaps, and maybe even confessed, but never repented.... now they think they're a real christian because others have told them so, but they doesn't fit the clear and specific
description of a repentant or faithful believer in the WORD OF GOD (in THE BIBLE)....
and instead of following , seeking, or listening to Jesus they engage in all kinds of other devices
as it is written"God made everything simple (HE REALLY DID), but man sought out many devices(corrupted all) "......
while you're at it, look up the truth about altar calls and so forth... it is a long study, a 'very long' read compared to threads on this forum.... but well worth it, since eternal life is very very much "at stake" , for millions of souls.... and many that visit here....
there's been many many 'studies' or follow-ups... see what "they say"(the former hand raisers) themselves, ...
and
that's not even the best evidence...
look at some on this forum .... they raised their hand perhaps, and maybe even confessed, but never repented.... now they think they're a real christian because others have told them so, but they doesn't fit the clear and specific
description of a repentant or faithful believer in the WORD OF GOD (in THE BIBLE)....
and instead of following , seeking, or listening to Jesus they engage in all kinds of other devices
as it is written"God made everything simple (HE REALLY DID), but man sought out many devices(corrupted all) "......
while you're at it, look up the truth about altar calls and so forth... it is a long study, a 'very long' read compared to threads on this forum.... but well worth it, since eternal life is very very much "at stake" , for millions of souls.... and many that visit here....
have you even read the bible yet ? did noah have a 'bleak' outlook ? did jesus ? did the apostles ?
in fact, does YAHWEH (the CREATOR) have a "bleak" outlook ?
what does YAHWEH, JESUS, NOAH, and all the apostles and prophets say about these days we live in ?
do they have a "bleak" outlook ?
seek and listen to the Father in heaven, and pray that HE permits you to know....
not many on earth are saved. in fact, according to GOD'S WORD, few are.
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HE describes in detail quite a bit that you apparently think is "bleak"......
yet also HE offers salvation through faith in JESUS by HIS GRACE... to as many as love HIM and are called according to HIS PURPOSE....
the fact in HIS WORD, it is written for all to see, is that few make it - few are saved..... and
multitudes REFUSE TO BE SAVED (is that "bleak"?).....
or else they might be saved......
in fact, does YAHWEH (the CREATOR) have a "bleak" outlook ?
what does YAHWEH, JESUS, NOAH, and all the apostles and prophets say about these days we live in ?
do they have a "bleak" outlook ?
seek and listen to the Father in heaven, and pray that HE permits you to know....
not many on earth are saved. in fact, according to GOD'S WORD, few are.
and
HE describes in detail quite a bit that you apparently think is "bleak"......
yet also HE offers salvation through faith in JESUS by HIS GRACE... to as many as love HIM and are called according to HIS PURPOSE....
the fact in HIS WORD, it is written for all to see, is that few make it - few are saved..... and
multitudes REFUSE TO BE SAVED (is that "bleak"?).....
or else they might be saved......
I know the word.
People are often saved before they repent. Repentance comes after faith. I know that there are far more unrighteous people on earth than righteous. It has always been that way. However, it is not for me to wring my hands over it. My job in the Lord is to present His message of love and forgiveness, and I let Holy Spirit do His work.
Speaking all doom and gloom and negatively about how so many who say they are saved yet are not is not your job. We who know Christ know that we are living in perilous times, spiritually, so let's roll up our sleeves and get to work, taking the gospel message to all who are seeking and will be saved at this last hour.
People are often saved before they repent. Repentance comes after faith. I know that there are far more unrighteous people on earth than righteous. It has always been that way. However, it is not for me to wring my hands over it. My job in the Lord is to present His message of love and forgiveness, and I let Holy Spirit do His work.
Speaking all doom and gloom and negatively about how so many who say they are saved yet are not is not your job. We who know Christ know that we are living in perilous times, spiritually, so let's roll up our sleeves and get to work, taking the gospel message to all who are seeking and will be saved at this last hour.
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"by their fruit you shall know them." We must do the Work of God, with the assurance that God know who are His, and we know that those who are His will depart from evil and live a holy life. Jesus knew Judas' heart and still Jesus worked with Judas for 3plus yrs and never complained about Judas to the others. We can expect to work with some Judas'; But if they keep a good cover up of their evil hearts, we won't really know whose side they are on. It is not a great concern for me. But I will teach the whole truth and those would will back me, I will work with them. I fire anyone who opposes my teaching. and let the chips fall, where they will. At times it is a member of our family. so be it. I am the pastor and to keep unity, all have to keep peace with me. I don't allow division in our church. This site is not my church ,so you can breath easy. LOL Love to all, Hoffco , Ptr. doug