Is Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) a total joke?
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How would God Himself interpret 'day age'?, how long is one of God's days?, how would anyone know?, also, God has no limitations no boundaries and can command full control of all natural laws. In some places on planet earth natural laws can change patterns.
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In his book History of Modern Creationism, Henry Morris stated about George McCready Price:
"I encountered his name in one of Harry Rimmer's books . . . and thereupon looked up his book The New Geology in the library at Rice University, where I was teaching at the time. This was in early 1943 an it was a life-changing experience."
Oh, a "life-changing experience" Morris said.
And Henry Morris went on to write his own book on flood geology and founded Institute for Creation Research.
Henry Morris is the person most responsible for making YEC the pseudoscientific cult that it is today. And who does Henry Morris credit for the "life-changing experience" that motivated him? Oh, a Seventh-Day Adventist, George McCready Price. And where did George McCready Price get much of his science? Ellen G. White perhaps?
"I encountered his name in one of Harry Rimmer's books . . . and thereupon looked up his book The New Geology in the library at Rice University, where I was teaching at the time. This was in early 1943 an it was a life-changing experience."
Oh, a "life-changing experience" Morris said.
And Henry Morris went on to write his own book on flood geology and founded Institute for Creation Research.
Henry Morris is the person most responsible for making YEC the pseudoscientific cult that it is today. And who does Henry Morris credit for the "life-changing experience" that motivated him? Oh, a Seventh-Day Adventist, George McCready Price. And where did George McCready Price get much of his science? Ellen G. White perhaps?
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Here is the link you failed to give;
Henry Morris' Deception
Now,if any of the other ignorant yec's besides myself wonder how your ignorance originated,you can read this nutty slander and deception and become as smart as Jack.
Henry Morris' Deception
Now,if any of the other ignorant yec's besides myself wonder how your ignorance originated,you can read this nutty slander and deception and become as smart as Jack.
You obfuscate and bluster without addressing the facts.
1. What is your scientific evidence that the earth is around 6,000 years old?
2. What is your scientific evidence that dinosaurs coexisted with humans?
3. What is your scientific evidence that there was a global flood 4,000 to 5,000 years ago?
Please refer to evidence that is published in reputable peer-reviewed scientific journals and the like.
1. What is your scientific evidence that the earth is around 6,000 years old?
2. What is your scientific evidence that dinosaurs coexisted with humans?
3. What is your scientific evidence that there was a global flood 4,000 to 5,000 years ago?
Please refer to evidence that is published in reputable peer-reviewed scientific journals and the like.
I used the word "prove" in the same sense that it is used in this article:
Australian man claims to have proof humans lived with dinosaurs | Daily Mail Online
Is Ken Ham going to "prove" that humans coexisted with dinosaurs or not?
Australian man claims to have proof humans lived with dinosaurs | Daily Mail Online
Is Ken Ham going to "prove" that humans coexisted with dinosaurs or not?
Somehow you forgot to mention the downside on Dr. Sarfati. Like this from the article on him at RationalWiki:
Sarfati's debating technique is infamous for a "take no prisoners" approach that is so offensive, it regularly brings the reproach of other, more irenically-minded Christians. A Christian review of Sarfati's Refuting Evolution[SUP][5][/SUP] says Sarfati is "blinded by his own ideology and has probably never honestly and open-mindedly faced the main issue about which he writes", noting that Sarfati attacks Old-earth creationist Hugh Ross as a false teacher in need of Biblical rebuke. This is typical. Sarfati frequently retreats to "X calls himself a Christian, but..." succumbing to the classic "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy. Sarfati repeatedly and clearly implies non-Young Earth Creationists are barely saved, and are otherwise misguided, apostate, ineffective or tools of Satan for failing to take a literalist, presuppositionalist approach to scripture. This approach is typical of the more histrionic Creationist organisations, but Sarfati is its exemplar: Giving lip service to the idea that other Christians can sincerely disagree about doctrine without heresy, but taking the gloves off in personal argument, conducting desperate ad hominem rejoinders, and casting aspersion on any adversary's salvation or motivations.
Sarfati's debating technique is infamous for a "take no prisoners" approach that is so offensive, it regularly brings the reproach of other, more irenically-minded Christians. A Christian review of Sarfati's Refuting Evolution[SUP][5][/SUP] says Sarfati is "blinded by his own ideology and has probably never honestly and open-mindedly faced the main issue about which he writes", noting that Sarfati attacks Old-earth creationist Hugh Ross as a false teacher in need of Biblical rebuke. This is typical. Sarfati frequently retreats to "X calls himself a Christian, but..." succumbing to the classic "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy. Sarfati repeatedly and clearly implies non-Young Earth Creationists are barely saved, and are otherwise misguided, apostate, ineffective or tools of Satan for failing to take a literalist, presuppositionalist approach to scripture. This approach is typical of the more histrionic Creationist organisations, but Sarfati is its exemplar: Giving lip service to the idea that other Christians can sincerely disagree about doctrine without heresy, but taking the gloves off in personal argument, conducting desperate ad hominem rejoinders, and casting aspersion on any adversary's salvation or motivations.
Actually, this is true. I remember about ten years ago, the AiG website would publish "hate mail" with his response that was usually just as venomous. Very intelligent man, but a bit abrasive last I read of him. I believe he even got banned from a theology site, long time ago. A site mind you, that allows nastiness far worse than what is tolerated here - yet THEY banned him, ultimately.
Here is the source:
Talk:Jonathan Sarfati/dispute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
My mistake... I just remember reading that quite a while ago, though I didn't look deeply into it. Seems there is debate about this, and that the members of the site didn't consider him trollish (maybe he wasn't banned?) The quotes you have from Theology Web are unaccessible via direct link because after reading a bit, it appears their entire site crashed and they lost everything in 2013.
Talk:Jonathan Sarfati/dispute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
My mistake... I just remember reading that quite a while ago, though I didn't look deeply into it. Seems there is debate about this, and that the members of the site didn't consider him trollish (maybe he wasn't banned?) The quotes you have from Theology Web are unaccessible via direct link because after reading a bit, it appears their entire site crashed and they lost everything in 2013.
I don't know what people's personalities have to do with which creation or naturalistic worldview is most correct but I do know that if they free Kent Hovind, I can begin seeing pictures like this one produced again:
Personality has nothing to do with it, really. But, if you claim to believe it because you are a moral being believing a good God, and yet you don't reflect a neutral or friendly demeanor, that in and of itself can raise suspicion in regards to motives. iow, it doesn't look good, regardless of what creation model you adhere to. Esp when a common YEC argument (albeit a poor one) is how evolutionary teaching has lead to moral decay... and then to exhibit amoral behavior in stating such? Hypocrisy doesn't invalidate a claim, but it doesn't do much to advance it.
. The article you cited appears to be credible to me, particularly statements like:
One particular early twentieth century creationist, George McCready Price (1870-1963), was the key anti-evolution creationist most influential to today’s young earth anti-evolution creationist movement even though his beliefs were considered on the fringe by fundamentalists at the time. Price promoted what he called Flood Geology.
George McCready Price had no choice but to believe in a restrictive literal interpretation where God created the universe in 4004 BC. The founder of Seventh-day Adventism, Ellen White, claimed to have received a vision from God, showing her the creation of the universe, which “was just like any other week.” Accepting anything other than a young earth would be to deny Ellen White as a true prophet. and developed young earth flood geology creationism around it.
Morris and Whitcomb repackaged Prices’ discarded flood geology creationism into something that the fundamentalist and evangelical community finally embraced. The Genesis Flood was an instant success with 29 reprints and sales in excess of 200,000 by the 1980’s. It became the scientific support and justification for the belief in young earth creationism, especially since this movement was named creation science.
George McCready Price had no choice but to believe in a restrictive literal interpretation where God created the universe in 4004 BC. The founder of Seventh-day Adventism, Ellen White, claimed to have received a vision from God, showing her the creation of the universe, which “was just like any other week.” Accepting anything other than a young earth would be to deny Ellen White as a true prophet. and developed young earth flood geology creationism around it.
Morris and Whitcomb repackaged Prices’ discarded flood geology creationism into something that the fundamentalist and evangelical community finally embraced. The Genesis Flood was an instant success with 29 reprints and sales in excess of 200,000 by the 1980’s. It became the scientific support and justification for the belief in young earth creationism, especially since this movement was named creation science.
I don't know what people's personalities have to do with which creation or naturalistic worldview is most correct but I do know that if they free Kent Hovind, I can begin seeing pictures like this one produced again:
When Dr. Dino is out of the slammer and Ken Ham finishes building that $73 million life-sized Noah's Ark, they should take the ark for a sail in lake Loch Ness and not return until they capture Nessie.
Here is an interesting article on Ham's Ark:
5 Things Kentucky Could Spend $73 Million On Instead Of A Fake Noah's Ark
Do comments like this really make you feel good about yourself? To be honest brother this is getting sad. Is this your hobby or something? It's almost embarrassing man, at least try to stop because I would rather have what Dr. Dino has then whatever it is that makes you obsess about him. At least he's his own man and has tons of people talking about him. What have you ever done but insult?