Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[eternally-gratefull]

What food are you talking about oh so enlightened one? teach us the mysteries of the universe oh enlightened one!!!!! LOL

what food?

You tell me what food.

1. It endures forever.
2. It gives eternal life
3. Whoever eats it will never hunger or thirst
4. WHoever eats it will never die
5. Whoever eats it will live forever
6. Whoever eats it will be risen on the last day.

Oh wait. Peter understands what the food is.

[SUP]68 [/SUP]But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. [SUP]69 [/SUP]Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”[SUP][i][/SUP]

confirming he understood what Jesus said.

[SUP]62 [/SUP]What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? [SUP]63 [/SUP]It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. [SUP]64 [/SUP]But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him.

But no. You will not see it. You can't see because the people you hold up above all others tell you not too.

You need to face the fact your eucharist is no better than the manna given to moses and their fathers. why? Can I prove this? Yes I can.. here is how.

[SUP]48 [/SUP]I am the bread of life. [SUP]49 [/SUP]Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

How many of your fathers took the eucharist, and are NOW DEAD? In fact, you can eat the eucharist until the day you die, guess what, you will still die.

Stop working for the food which dies, but the food which will endure forever, Which Jesus will give you if you just open your eyes, and feast on it.

Instead of being sarcastic, why do you not just try to study for once in your life.

 

[mwc68]

One who has been gifted with the gift of pastor and of teaching can certainly use it when he is called upon to do so. No one is to ever "push aside" or usurp the position of pastor or any spiritual leader to try to promote oneself.

Oh, but you saud you are a priest who can consecrate and everything! Why not teach the congregation unless this is hypocrysy. Cant have your cake and eat it too

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So you can just push your pastor, if you have one, aside and start preaching to the congregation? Good Luck with that!

lol. We have many pastors. I just happen to be one of them, we all lead our flock. But nice try.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Just rude and ignorant like always

No more rude or ignorant that half the stuff your church says,

Mind if I ask why your here? Your by your own words can not discuss the word of God with anyone, because unless we are a priest of your church, we are all wrong..

Now thats rude!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Oh, but you saud you are a priest who can consecrate and everything! Why not teach the congregation unless this is hypocrysy. Cant have your cake and eat it too

lol. Consecration (saying a blessing) is not the same as preaching. get serious man, your ignorance is starting to show forth.

 

[mwc68]

what food?

You tell me what food.

1. It endures forever.
2. It gives eternal life
3. Whoever eats it will never hunger or thirst
4. WHoever eats it will never die
5. Whoever eats it will live forever
6. Whoever eats it will be risen on the last day.

Oh wait. Peter understands what the food is.

[SUP]68 [/SUP]But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. [SUP]69 [/SUP]Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”[SUP][i][/SUP]

confirming he understood what Jesus said.

[SUP]62 [/SUP]What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before? [SUP]63 [/SUP]It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. [SUP]64 [/SUP]But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him.

But no. You will not see it. You can't see because the people you hold up above all others tell you not too.

You need to face the fact your eucharist is no better than the manna given to moses and their fathers. why? Can I prove this? Yes I can.. here is how.

[SUP]48 [/SUP]I am the bread of life. [SUP]49 [/SUP]Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

How many of your fathers took the eucharist, and are NOW DEAD? In fact, you can eat the eucharist until the day you die, guess what, you will still die.

Stop working for the food which dies, but the food which will endure forever, Which Jesus will give you if you just open your eyes, and feast on it.

Instead of being sarcastic, why do you not just try to study for once in your life.

I love how you assume so much about me!!!! Pretending to be God is blasphemy. Jesus is the bread of life! Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood, I will raise on the last day. Cant get any plainer than that

 

[mwc68]

No more rude or ignorant that half the stuff your church says,

Mind if I ask why your here? Your by your own words can not discuss the word of God with anyone, because unless we are a priest of your church, we are all wrong..

Now thats rude!

Why am I here? You ppl and your ignorance of the Church is hilarious!!!! You really believe all the propaganda you have been brainwashed with! I have been called Satan here, a follower of demons, blind, devoid of the spirit, worshiper of Mary and the pope etc. None of this is true of course, but LOL you still say them!

 

[KenAllan]

Well mwc68 since you cannot prove the Holy Spirit every said Mary was without sin proves the Roman Catholic Church is a false Church. Why you ask? Because clearly the Holy Spirit says ALL have sinned. All means Mary also mwc68.

Well mwc68 since you cannot prove the Holy Spirit every said Mary was assumed into Heaven proves the Roman Catholic Church is a false Church.

So why mwc68 are you defending a false Church that does not follow God? How can the Roman Catholic Church ever be a True Church when it is teaching the lies of Satan as Truths from God?

The Roman Catholic Church today refuses to follow God and His Truths. As long as the Roman Catholic Church keeps insisting and teaching Mary was without sin and was assumed into Heaven keeps the Roman Catholic Church from following God. How can you say you follow God if you refuse to listen to what the Holy Spirit says mwc68?

The foundation of the Roman Catholic Church is not built on the Truth from the Holy Spirit mwc68 which means your church will fall and has fallen hard in the past.

Only the Truth is in the Scriptures mwc68. I have proven over and over again there is no Truth in the Roman Catholic Church because they teach Mary was without sin and was assumed into Heaven. Even you cannot show any proof in the Scriptures where the Holy Spirit teaches this. These doctrines came about by the will of the Roman Catholic Church, not from the Holy Spirit.

The Roman Catholic Church has turned its back on God to teach false doctrines to keep you in darkness mwc68. Its the Roman Catholic Church that is keeping you in bondage to Mary mwc68.

All Roman Catholic's today are in bondage to the Roman Catholic Church and will never enter into Heaven mwc68. Is this really want you want? Because God will allow you to continue to be deceived by the Roman Catholic Church mwc68.

 

[mwc68]

Well mwc68 since you cannot prove the Holy Spirit every said Mary was without sin proves the Roman Catholic Church is a false Church. Why you ask? Because clearly the Holy Spirit says ALL have sinned. All means Mary also mwc68.

Well mwc68 since you cannot prove the Holy Spirit every said Mary was assumed into Heaven proves the Roman Catholic Church is a false Church.

So why mwc68 are you defending a false Church that does not follow God? How can the Roman Catholic Church ever be a True Church when it is teaching the lies of Satan as Truths from God?

The Roman Catholic Church today refuses to follow God and His Truths. As long as the Roman Catholic Church keeps insisting and teaching Mary was without sin and was assumed into Heaven keeps the Roman Catholic Church from following God. How can you say you follow God if you refuse to listen to what the Holy Spirit says mwc68?

The foundation of the Roman Catholic Church is not built on the Truth from the Holy Spirit mwc68 which means your church will fall and has fallen hard in the past.

Only the Truth is in the Scriptures mwc68. I have proven over and over again there is no Truth in the Roman Catholic Church because they teach Mary was without sin and was assumed into Heaven. Even you cannot show any proof in the Scriptures where the Holy Spirit teaches this. These doctrines came about by the will of the Roman Catholic Church, not from the Holy Spirit.

The Roman Catholic Church has turned its back on God to teach false doctrines to keep you in darkness mwc68. Its the Roman Catholic Church that is keeping you in bondage to Mary mwc68.

All Roman Catholic's today are in bondage to the Roman Catholic Church and will never enter into Heaven mwc68. Is this really want you want? Because God will allow you to continue to be deceived by the Roman Catholic Church mwc68.

Still just your opinion. You have not provided any scriptures that say she wasn't. What of that since your God is a book of ink and paper, talk about worshiping idols, where are your scriptures?

 

[mwc68]

Well mwc68 since you cannot prove the Holy Spirit every said Mary was without sin proves the Roman Catholic Church is a false Church. Why you ask? Because clearly the Holy Spirit says ALL have sinned. All means Mary also mwc68.

Well mwc68 since you cannot prove the Holy Spirit every said Mary was assumed into Heaven proves the Roman Catholic Church is a false Church.

So why mwc68 are you defending a false Church that does not follow God? How can the Roman Catholic Church ever be a True Church when it is teaching the lies of Satan as Truths from God?

The Roman Catholic Church today refuses to follow God and His Truths. As long as the Roman Catholic Church keeps insisting and teaching Mary was without sin and was assumed into Heaven keeps the Roman Catholic Church from following God. How can you say you follow God if you refuse to listen to what the Holy Spirit says mwc68?

The foundation of the Roman Catholic Church is not built on the Truth from the Holy Spirit mwc68 which means your church will fall and has fallen hard in the past.

Only the Truth is in the Scriptures mwc68. I have proven over and over again there is no Truth in the Roman Catholic Church because they teach Mary was without sin and was assumed into Heaven. Even you cannot show any proof in the Scriptures where the Holy Spirit teaches this. These doctrines came about by the will of the Roman Catholic Church, not from the Holy Spirit.

The Roman Catholic Church has turned its back on God to teach false doctrines to keep you in darkness mwc68. Its the Roman Catholic Church that is keeping you in bondage to Mary mwc68.

All Roman Catholic's today are in bondage to the Roman Catholic Church and will never enter into Heaven mwc68. Is this really want you want? Because God will allow you to continue to be deceived by the Roman Catholic Church mwc68.

You cant prove OSAS, so your church is a lie! You cant prove Altar calls are even called for! Your church is a lie!!!!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I love how you assume so much about me!!!! Pretending to be God is blasphemy. Jesus is the bread of life! Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood, I will raise on the last day. Cant get any plainer than that

Yep/ cant get any plainer than that. Yep your church denies it.

Yet you have eaten the eucharist how often now? Yet your church can;t promise you that that will happen to you now can it..

yet you still want to call me ignorant and stupid because I call your church out on it..

I don;t assume anything my friend Thats your problem. yuo think we assume.. When it is you who does all the assuming.

Notice also how you IGNORED everything else which was posted. and the rest of the passage. news flash my friend, you do not make a doctrine on one sentence out of a WHOLE conversation.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Why am I here? You ppl and your ignorance of the Church is hilarious!!!! You really believe all the propaganda you have been brainwashed with! I have been called Satan here, a follower of demons, blind, devoid of the spirit, worshiper of Mary and the pope etc. None of this is true of course, but LOL you still say them!

lol. yet you do the very things you deny. And you want to yell at us??

Your not here to set us striaght. You think we are stupid?

Your here to argue, yet you can't even argue, because your ONLY defense is apostolic succession (which can not be proven) and priestly infallibility) which can not be proven.

other than that, you have no argument. and no one can discuss anything with you because of those two arguments.

Your wasting your time. and ours. unless you actually want to discuss the word. which you have already proven you have no desire to do.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You cant prove OSAS, so your church is a lie! You cant prove Altar calls are even called for! Your church is a lie!!!!

oh we can prove eternal security, you just will never see it. because we are not a certain person in your church, but if they taught it, you would blindly follow it just because they said it.

again, a hypocrite. sorry if the truth hurts, but it is true.

 

[mwc68]

lol. yet you do the very things you deny. And you want to yell at us??

Your not here to set us striaght. You think we are stupid?

Your here to argue, yet you can't even argue, because your ONLY defense is apostolic succession (which can not be proven) and priestly infallibility) which can not be proven.

other than that, you have no argument. and no one can discuss anything with you because of those two arguments.

Your wasting your time. and ours. unless you actually want to discuss the word. which you have already proven you have no desire to do.

I don't remember telling you to post. By the way none of you discuss, you accuse

 

[valiant]

I strongly disagree. You are not of the Apostolic succession, that flows all the way to the modern day clergy. Sorry, but you are not. Neither am i

Nor are you so-called bishops and priests. The Apostles had no successors. There is no such thing as Apostolic succession.

 

[mwc68]

And your tired arguments when i try to discuss the bible is " i take it out of context" big shock there. Can't discuss anything with ya'll because that's your only defense

 

[valiant]

Misrepresented what? That whole statement is a biased opinion! Not one fact

You misrepresented what Jesus said. He was not talking about having understanding and knowledge, but of seeing sin in others.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don't remember telling you to post. By the way none of you discuss, you accuse

oh is that so? so me posting half of the context of john 6 is not discussing anything? I spent a few quite large posts trying to discuss john 6 with you. you would have nothing to do with it.

And here you go being the hypocrite again. You not only lied about me, but you did the very thing you claimed I am doing to you.s

second. You do not have to tell me to post. it is a free forum for all to discuss

third. here again, I TRIED TO DISCUSS a passage (even though you lied and said I never want to discuss anything) and YOU STILL REFUSE TO DISCUSS. you just AGAIN ATTACKED. which is evidently your modus operendi.

 

[valiant]

Could yall quit personalizing this as if mwc68 started the Church and wrote catachism

you are responsible for what you believe. you cannot blame anyone else for your folly. you don't have to believe your deceitful church.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

And your tired arguments when i try to discuss the bible is " i take it out of context" big shock there. Can't discuss anything with ya'll because that's your only defense

Well if you take something out of context. what else are we supposed to say? if you refuse to discuss context (like you have continually done with john 6) then you have no ground to stand on. All you are doing is arguing for argument sake and making yourself look bad.

Dont sit there and make an accusation against us when you refuse to even look at context. If you think we are wrong, thats fine, Prove it to us by showing us EVERYTHING jesus said in context of the conversation, then discussing how we got him wrong in ALL he said.

otherwise. dont yell when we call you out on context.