Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[KenAllan]

Mwc68, the Roman Catholic Church has no authority to Interpret the Scriptures by itself. To do a correct Interpretation the Roman Catholic Church need to include the Protestant Churches also.

A very good example of this is the Roman Catholic Church doctrine of Mary being without sin.

Romans 3:9-12
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one;
[SUP]11 [/SUP] There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one."


Romans 3:23
[SUP]23 [/SUP] for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Clearly the Holy Spirit says Mary was born in sin and Mary was a sinner her whole life.

You have to understand mwc68, its not Baptism that cleanses us of sin because if it was then the Thief on the cross could not enter into Heaven. Since Jesus Christ did say the Thief on the cross next to Him would enter into Heaven proves that Baptism does not cleans us of our sins nor is it mandatory to be Baptized to enter into Heaven.

You may have lots of teachers in the Roman Catholic Church to teach you, but they are not teaching you the Truth that is from the Holy Spirit mwc68.

The Roman Catholic Church may have over a thousand years of teachings, but what good is that mwc68 if the Roman Catholic Church is teaching the lies of men and Satan and not the Truth from the Holy Spirit?

I have over 10,000 years of teachings just from the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit that teaches me all the Truths from God.

Which is better mwc68, the Truth from the Holy Spirit or the lies from the Roman Catholic Church? By which one can you enter into Heaven, God or the Roman Catholic Church mwc68?

You need to realize mwc68 its God who has all the Truth and its God who gives us Salvation, not the Roman Catholic Church.

Put your trust in God, not the Roman Catholic Church mwc68.

 

[mwc68]

but that is all you have in the Roman Catholic church

The magesterium is the authority when it comes to interpreting scriptures not some private interpreting

 

[flob]

To be all 'on the same page' is a matter of the Holy Spirit.
Not some absurd clergy-laity fallen system.

All Scripture is God-breathed, 2 Tim 3:16.
...The Spirit, which is the word of God, Eph 6:17.
The words which I have spoken to you are spirit and are life, Jn 6:63
We have received...the Spirit which is from God...that we may know the things which have been freely given to us by God. Which things also we speak, not in words taught by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual things with spiritual words. But the soulish man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God...But we have the mind of Christ, 1 Cor 2:12-16

 

[mwc68]

Mwc68, the Roman Catholic Church has no authority to Interpret the Scriptures by itself. To do a correct Interpretation the Roman Catholic Church need to include the Protestant Churches also.

A very good example of this is the Roman Catholic Church doctrine of Mary being without sin.

Romans 3:9-12
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one;
[SUP]11 [/SUP] There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not one."


Romans 3:23
[SUP]23 [/SUP] for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Clearly the Holy Spirit says Mary was born in sin and Mary was a sinner her whole life.

You have to understand mwc68, its not Baptism that cleanses us of sin because if it was then the Thief on the cross could not enter into Heaven. Since Jesus Christ did say the Thief on the cross next to Him would enter into Heaven proves that Baptism does not cleans us of our sins nor is it mandatory to be Baptized to enter into Heaven.

You may have lots of teachers in the Roman Catholic Church to teach you, but they are not teaching you the Truth that is from the Holy Spirit mwc68.

The Roman Catholic Church may have over a thousand years of teachings, but what good is that mwc68 if the Roman Catholic Church is teaching the lies of men and Satan and not the Truth from the Holy Spirit?

I have over 10,000 years of teachings just from the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit that teaches me all the Truths from God.

Which is better mwc68, the Truth from the Holy Spirit or the lies from the Roman Catholic Church? By which one can you enter into Heaven, God or the Roman Catholic Church mwc68?

You need to realize mwc68 its God who has all the Truth and its God who gives us Salvation, not the Roman Catholic Church.

Put your trust in God, not the Roman Catholic Church mwc68.

I see the massive division demonstrated here when you go it alone. We have very little division in the Catholic Church.
We are all on the same page, so to speak

 

[KenAllan]

The Roman Catholic Church is all on the same page mwc68. The page of teaching lies from the Roman Catholic Church as Truths from God. But the Roman Catholic Church is not on the same page as the Holy Spirit mwc68.

Wrong again mwc68. Its not the magesterium that is the sole authority on the Scriptures, its the Holy Spirit who has the sole authority to Interpret the Scriptures for us mwc68.

I have proved over and over again we cannot trust the Interpretation of the Roman Catholic Church. The very fact the Roman Catholic Church goes against what the Holy Spirit teaches shows that the Roman Catholic Church does not follow God or His Truths. Therefore everything the Roman Catholic Church teaches needs to be tossed out and rejected.

Which is better mwc68, the Truth from God or the lies from the Roman Catholic Church?

Who do you put your trust in mwc68, God or the Roman Catholic Church?
Who do you follow mwc68, God or the Roman Catholic Church?
Who has all the Truth mwc68, the Holy Spirit or the Roman Catholic Church?
Who are you mwc68 looking to for your Salvation, God or the Roman Catholic Church?

How you answer these questions will reveal a lot about where you are in your walk with God mwc68.

 

[flob]

I see the massive division demonstrated here when you go it alone.

Go it alone-----------apart from the Dope? The 'magisterium'?
Catholicism itself is a division. That is not the pattern for or of the churches in the apostles' New Testament teaching.
Nor historically is Catholicism the church. Speaking of division (within division), Catholicism and so-called Orthodoxy divided
long before Martin Luther. Maybe that division is not...........massive enough.
I think 'go it alone' may be a dig at Martin Luther. If so, hallelujah. It's good to be divided from (and excommunicated by)
Babylon's Whore.

We have very little division in the Catholic Church.
We are all on the same page, so to speak

So to speak. Like the Kennedys and Bidens, maybe, and Mrs Pelosi, Catholics who uphold Abortion.
But half or more the population of US Catholics isn't massive.
We can check, recently, with Ireland also

 

[FancyNancy]

The magesterium is the authority when it comes to interpreting scriptures not some private interpreting

That is utter nonsense. The magisterium has usurped Holy Spirit's authority, and rendered Him impotent. We need Holy Spirit within us to interpret what God is saying to our hearts.

1 Corinthians 2:11b
... no one can know God’s thoughts except God’s own Spirit.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But people who aren’t spiritual can’t receive these truths from God’s Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them and they can’t understand it, for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means.

Here is a good article for you:

Six Principles For Interpreting Scripture

 

[FancyNancy]

I see the massive division demonstrated here when you go it alone. We have very little division in the Catholic Church.
We are all on the same page, so to speak

That's because not very many dare to think for themselves. They are lemmings...so to speak:

Those who do, often are seekers after truth and God comes alongside and reveals it. Those people leave the RCC for the truth. I see it happening all the time!

 

[notuptome]

It washed away original sin. I Became a child of God, set apart for God. Yes I believe this because it is doctrine over 1000 yrs old

Sin is even older and water baptism does not wash away sin. If water could wash away sin it would not have been necessary for Jesus Christ to leave the glories of heaven and die a horrible death on Calvary to make atonement for mans sin.

You have no will as a child so you could have no part in your baptism. You have only the word of others that you were in fact baptized. What if they told you a lie?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[KenAllan]

Again mwc68 you do not tell the Truth. Its not by Baptism that washes us clean of our sins, its the Blood of Jesus Christ that washes us clean of all our sins mwc68.

Matthew 26:27-28
27 Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you.
28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Ephesians 1:7
7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace


Colossians 1:13-14
13 He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love,
14 in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.

1 John 1:6-7
6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.
7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

Revelation 1:4-5
4 John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne,
5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood

Clearly mwc68 its the Blood of Jesus Christ that cleanses us from all our sins, not Baptism like you teach mwc68.

Why mwc68 do you hate the Holy Spirit?

I have shown where you are telling lies from the Roman Catholic Church mwc68. I have many times proven you wrong by the teachings of the Holy Spirit. So why are you grieving the Holy Spirit mwc68 with your lies?

Why are you fighting against God? You cannot win against God mwc68.

I can tell who is your God mwc68 and who you are following mwc68. Its the Roman Catholic Church that is your God mwc68 and its the Roman Catholic Church that you are following as your God mwc68.

You do not realize mwc68 you have put your Eternal Soul in danger of Hell fire if you keep on rejecting God and the Holy Spirit mwc68.

Being a Roman Catholic does not make you a Christian mwc68. Its only those who have believed that Jesus Christ is God and have confessed with their mouth that Jesus is God that are True Christians. Being born in the Roman Catholic Church does not make you a Christian mwc68.

Repent and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior mwc68. Be filled with the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Then and only then will you be allowed to enter into Heaven mwc68.

 

[valiant]

The magesterium is the authority when it comes to interpreting scriptures not some private interpreting

but all you have is there private interpretation. they are in disagreement with the main church of Jesus Christ

 

[valiant]

I see the massive division demonstrated here when you go it alone. We have very little division in the Catholic Church.
We are all on the same page, so to speak

I suggest you visit Roman Catholic churches around the world. You will soon discover that you have many pages. Some worship Mary, others claim only to venerate her. In some priests marry. In others they don't. In reality your church has a whole host of different beliefs. Your head is just stuck in the sand. But at least you have one thing in common. THE CHURCH SAVES, not Jesus Christ.

 

[valiant]

I don't put much validity in private interpretation

yes I've noticed that you don't have any views of your own. you are like a lemming, running wildly to your fate with your eyes closed.

 

[valiant]

I disagree with your interpretation . Clearly all these verses point to baptism to cleanse sin

ADULT baptism of believers. And where does it say it cleanses from sin?

 

[valiant]

I understand this, lol, Please understand i accept the authority of the Church in these matters. I have been posting here over a month now after a three year break from this. I still have not found any authority in what you do. I've seen some very strange stuff here and that's what happens with no authority. I've tried to bring up some of these issues here and just get sentenced to hell by supposed christians. I believe ya'll are the ones with closed minds. I even quoted something from the OT and the pavlovian response was, " we don't follow jewish customs". I trust the church and the writings of the saints.

well we trust the Scriptures and the God Who applies them to our hearts not some dead church built on fantasy.

 

[Pumicestone]

Holy Spirit does His job perfectly. It's men's minds and hearts that thwart Him.

If the job was done "perfectly", surely the message would be clear.
Obviously it is not clear because sincere, genuine, educated seekers-after-truth study the very same texts and come up with thousands of different doctrines and beliefs.

And not just about trivial stuff but the very basics like the means of salvation, life after death, the end of the world and so on.

 

[FancyNancy]

If the job was done "perfectly", surely the message would be clear.
Obviously it is not clear because sincere, genuine, educated seekers-after-truth study the very same texts and come up with thousands of different doctrines and beliefs.

And not just about trivial stuff but the very basics like the means of salvation, life after death, the end of the world and so on.

What is not clear is only because men's minds are not receiving due to their darkness. God tells us in His word that no one has an excuse for not knowing Him, as He has made His existence very observable.

God has the wonderful ability to reveal His truth to all, despite the variations in understanding that people have, which His Spirit can cut through like a hot knife through butter.

 

[KenAllan]

The Roman Catholic Church today has nothing to do with Jesus Christ. Everything the Roman Catholic Church today teaches has a lot to do with nothing. We can trace this back to the 1850's when the Roman Catholic Church started teaching their UNWRITTEN traditions about Mary. Its interesting that all of a sudden after 1800 years the Roman Catholic Church suddenly discovers that Mary was without sin. Its interesting that all of a sudden after 1800 years the Roman Catholic Church suddenly discovers that Mary was assumed into Heaven.

Its interesting back at the beginning of the Roman Catholic Church, there were people who wanted Mary to be without sin. Many Roman Catholic Church Fathers argued against Mary being without sin. Satan won in the end and the Roman Catholic Church made Mary to be without sin, Satan has finally gotten his way in the Roman Catholic Church.

Do not look to the Roman Catholic Church mwc68, look to God, look to the Holy Spirit, look to Jesus Christ. Reject the Mary of the Roman Catholic Church for she is NOT the Mary in the Scriptures. The Mary the Roman Catholic Church follows today was never the Mary in the Scriptures mwc68.

All i see you doing mwc68 is parroting what the Popes have said in the Roman Catholic Church.

Repent mwc68, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. When you have accepted the Salvation God has for you, you will receive the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit who will open up your eyes to the Truth in the Scriptures and to the lies in the Roman Catholic Church.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I see the massive division demonstrated here when you go it alone. We have very little division in the Catholic Church.
We are all on the same page, so to speak

You do not know your church very well. You have quite a few divisions.

Private interpretation goes both ways. The jewish priests had their own interpretation. Christ had his.

The catholic church has their own interpretation, everyone else has theirs.

Your church has you brainwashed that you can not interpret the word of God on your own, because they are afraid you will see what everyone else who have studied the word on their own has, their doctrines do not stand up to scriptural authority, period.

 

[notuptome]

You do not know your church very well. You have quite a few divisions.

Private interpretation goes both ways. The jewish priests had their own interpretation. Christ had his.

The catholic church has their own interpretation, everyone else has theirs.

Your church has you brainwashed that you can not interpret the word of God on your own, because they are afraid you will see what everyone else who have studied the word on their own has, their doctrines do not stand up to scriptural authority, period.

The RCC teaches that the pope is the Vicar of Christ. That is the office of the Holy Spirit so it seems only natural that their vicar would be the source of their interpretation of scripture. The true church comprised of born again believers, the church founded on the blood of Jesus Christ, sources their interpretation from the Holy Spirit the only Vicar of Christ.

For the cause of Christ
Roger