Creating a Christian Faith Army in the USA

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Do you think we should create a christian army in the usa?

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SanctuaryBabel

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I have had enough of the government trying to form us into whatever they want. They cram islam down our throats and protect them as if we christian are out casts. We all can see that the world is changing for the worst. People are becoming more radical and militant. People are either losing their faith in Christ or they are joining a new wave religion with new wave extreme views. I know in the years to come it will not get better but will get increasingly worst far worst. My family and my faith are most important to me and keeping both safe is my main goal in life. They are called preppers or crazy people because they are preparing for an event that they believe will destroy our way of life and cause mass chaos between the human race. I call them preppers, prepare people and do it now while you still have time. I rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. I rather know in my mind that there is a place just in case something goes down, my family has a safe place to ride out whats lurking on the horizon. If you have some of the same thoughts and views contact me for my IDEA. I need help I cant do this on my own. Power by numbers. If the faith in our Lord is what saves us in the end, how if there is no chritians left can we keep the faith alive so we can be saved. The radical muslims want to wipe us off the planet, I want to have an answer for them. An army of Prayer Warriors to send Satan and all his followers right back to HELL for good. I do not want to be the christian to have to watch his family taken away or worst murdered. Non believers laugh and joke but read the bible, all the non believers laughed and partied like it was 9 but then when the wrath came im sure they were regretting not believing in the LORD and teachings. I will not be a victim. Decapitated heads of christians on tv, NOT THIS CHRISTIAN so if you want to do something for yourself and your family call me and lets get started.

PLEASE DONT PUT PERSONAL INFORMATION ON THE FORUMS AS ANYONE CAN READ IT THROUGH A GOOGLE SEARCH, ALSO WE DONT WANT TO TURN CC INTO AN ARMY RECRUITMENT LINE
 
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This would be categorically and catastrophically wrong to do. We needed no army during the reign of Rome. We need no army during the reign of the modern world.
 
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jaybird88

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the path we are currently on (no army) doesnt seem to be working. i agree with OP something needs to be done.
 
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the path we are currently on (no army) doesnt seem to be working. i agree with OP something needs to be done.
So the gates of Hell have prevailed? We already have an army and they are an unknowable number. Do not spit in the face of those blessed soldiers of Heaven because we see persecution and corruption. Man may be failing, but the faith is not.
 
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SanctuaryBabel

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never would I spit in a soldiers face or disgrace then in any way. I was referring to GODS ARMY but I am sorry for the confusion, how about just a human being that doesnt want his family or other families to suffer from whats to come. I am not going to sit and pray alone, i am going to do my part to help as many people as possible. I am not doing this for self gain this would be a mutual agreement, everyone would hold their own capital and then through planning fund projects as we go. We need a safe haven just like these prepper shows but in a large scale just like the ones the governments around the world have. I believe in GOD with all my heart, and if we can build a place to keep his people safe to carry on his teachings and to live a pure life I believe he would approve of our work. GOD didnt put us here to work till we die we were put here to see what we can accomplish with the little time we have here.
 

posthuman

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He delighteth not in the strength of the horse:
he taketh not pleasure in the legs of a man.

(Psalm 147:10)

let's not confuse Christianity with the Tea Party.

Once God has spoken; twice have I heard this: that power belongs to God
(Psalm 62:11)

^ not to "numbers" or men with AK's and bunkers and a lot of fear & hatred.



you say "read the bible" -- but have you read it? it's not "prayer warriors" that defeat Satan - it's Christ Himself. and he's not sent "back to hell" -- he hasn't but put there yet. have a look at Daniel & Revelation.

you say "believing in the LORD and His teachings" - but do you know them? He said love and do good to your enemies, and turn the other cheek, and if they ask you to go a mile, go two with them.

i suggest turn off your radio; turn off your TV, and actually read the scripture, and pray.
those things are poisoning your mind.

 
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By soldiers, I was speaking of the angels.
 
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prodigal

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[h=1]Psalm 2 King James Version (KJV)[/h]2 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.


 
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3Scoreand10

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Proverbs 27:12
"A prudent man foreseeth the evil and hideth himself; but the simple pass on and are punished."

I choose to be prudent and hide my family from the coming evil.
I can find no scripture that teaches I am to go to the slaughter as the Jews did under Hitler.
If I die because of my stand for my Savior, Glory to God, but I will not go without taking as many of those evil soldiers of Satan as God allows.
 
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Proverbs 27:12
"A prudent man foreseeth the evil and hideth himself; but the simple pass on and are punished."

I choose to be prudent and hide my family from the coming evil.
I can find no scripture that teaches I am to go to the slaughter as the Jews did under Hitler.
If I die because of my stand for my Savior, Glory to God, but I will not go without taking as many of those evil soldiers of Satan as God allows.
".... as God allows??!?!?!?!?
 
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3Scoreand10

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".... as God allows??!?!?!?!?
When the soldiers of Satan come to kill my family, I will stand my ground and fight.
If God ALLOWS, I will take some with me, if not I will die still fighting for my family.
I will not go without a fight.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence

“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Do not envy a man of violence and do not choose any of his ways

 
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it's not possible. it's not in YAHWEH'S WORD. it's not a good testimony.

rather, learn what YAHWEH says, and do that, as JESUS told the disciples.

search page >
to be clean
means
not to seek a divorce - ask yahweh and accept HIS WORD.
to be clean
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not to even think a dirty word or a mean thought about someone.
to be clean
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not to have any kind of greed.
to be clean
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to "lay down our life" , not even considering trying to avoid death... and
not defending ourselves, as it is written ...... (a LIVING SACRIFICE .... ....

[h=1] John 15:14Amplified Bible (AMP)
[/h] [SUP]14 [/SUP]You are My friends if you keep on doing the things which I command you to do.


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    But I say: Don't resist violence! If you are slapped on one cheek, turn the other too
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  2. [h=3]Matthew 5:39-42 HCSB - But I tell you, don't resist an - Bible Gateway[/h]https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew...42... - Cached
    But I tell you, don't resist an evildoer. On the contrary, if anyone slaps you on your
    right cheek, turn the other to him also. As for the one who.

  3. [h=3]Luke 22:51-53 TLB - But Jesus said, “Don't resist - Bible Gateway[/h]https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke...53... - Cached
    But Jesus said, “Don't resist anymore.” And he touched the place where the
    man's ear had been and restored it. Then Jesus addressed the chief.

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    But I tell you, don't resist him who is evil; but whoever strikes you on your right
    cheek, turn to him the other also. If anyone sues you to take.

  5. [h=3]Luke 22:51 TLB - But Jesus said, “Don't resist - Bible Gateway[/h]https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke...version... - Cached
    But Jesus said, “Don't resist anymore.” And he touched the place where the
    man's ear had been and restored it.

  6. [h=3]Hebrews 12:25 CEB - See to it that you don't resist the - Bible Gateway[/h]https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews...CEB - Cached
    See to it that you don't resist the one who is speaking. If the people didn't escape
    when they refused to listen to the one who warned them on.

  7. [h=3]Matthew 5:39-41 TLB - But I say: Don't resist violence! If - Bible ...[/h]https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew...41... - Cached
    But I say: Don't resist violence! If you are slapped on one cheek, turn the other too
    . If you are ordered to court, and your shirt is taken from.

  8. [h=3]Matthew 5:39 HCSB - But I tell you, don't resist an - Bible Gateway[/h]https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew... - Cached
    But I tell you, don't resist an evildoer. On the contrary, if anyone slaps you on your
    right cheek, turn the other to him also.

  9. [h=3]Leviticus 26:21 GW - “If you resist and don't listen to - Bible Gateway[/h]https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus...GW - Cached
    If you resist and don't listen to me, I will increase the punishment for your sins
    seven times.

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    If you resist and don't listen to me, I will increase the punishment for your sins
    seven times. I will send wild animals among you. They will.
 
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SanctuaryBabel

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so just sit and pray as I watch something happen to my family, do you think the people in danger dont pray? Yeah they do then we read about them on the news because just praying does nothing.My belief is that GOD wants us to pray for the wicked and pray for the non believers but he did not intend for us to just sit there and be take it. Why are we fighting wars why dont we just pray the terroists away, because prayers only get you so far. Now i am not talking about a militia or a tea party. How about a group of people that want to genuinely help their fellow man, and do good in this world full of hate and jealousy. How about a place our children can grow up without having a police state, racism and death. You dont like my post or idea no problem. I dont want to go through a lie of a life, I want to actually do something that helps people and at the same time keep the christian faith alive.
 

posthuman

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I will not go without taking as many of those evil soldiers of Satan as God allows.

we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

so who are these "evil soldiers of Satan" ?

people? anyone who wears a turban? anyone who votes democrat? where does your judging stop?

can you tell me about how the apostles killed as many Roman guards & servants of the pharisees as they could on their way to martyrdom . . ?

And behold, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his ear. Then Jesus said to him,
Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword."

your head is sick, i think. stop listening to talk radio. they're trying to scare you into voting republican and supporting war. it's a propaganda machine. being prepared to do God's work doesn't mean stocking up on ammo.
 
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3Scoreand10

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we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

so who are these "evil soldiers of Satan" ?

people? anyone who wears a turban? anyone who votes democrat? where does your judging stop?

can you tell me about how the apostles killed as many Roman guards & servants of the pharisees as they could on their way to martyrdom . . ?

And behold, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his ear. Then Jesus said to him,
Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword."

your head is sick, i think. stop listening to talk radio. they're trying to scare you into voting republican and supporting war. it's a propaganda machine. being prepared to do God's work doesn't mean stocking up on ammo.
I don't listen to talk radio. It is trash. I am not some wacko looking for a fight or a stupid reason to kill some one. I pray I will never have to make that choice.
What I mean is simple.
IF and I repeat IF, someone like ISIA or any other terror group who want to kill ALL Christians comes to my home to rape my wife and daughter, or my neighbors wife, and KILL us, YES I will fight. and Yes I will try to kill as many as I can so their will be less of them IF they come to your house.
If you want to comdem me for that attitude, that is your choice. I pray It never happens to me or to YOU.
 
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SanctuaryBabel

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Question: "What does the Bible say about teamwork?"

Answer:
While the wordteamworkdoes not appear in the Bible, this ancient tome contains a lot of information about working together. Teamwork is evident in the societal structures of marriage, family, community, and business. Advice for daily living, conflict management, and related issues are available in Scripture; you just have to know where to look and how to apply the Bible’s principles of teamwork to today’s business or ministry model.

The most foundational team is the one created when someone accepts Christ as Lord and Savior. From that very instant, the newborn child of God is never alone (Hebrews 13:5). The believer has the advantage of being part of his own “God team,” with the benefits of the guidance of the Holy Spirit (1 John 2:27), the priestly provisions of Jesus (Hebrews10:19–22), and the eternal love of a faithful Father (1 Corinthians 1:9; 10:13).

We are designed to need God and each other. No one has all the skills, gifts, or wisdom necessary for a successful life. We are exhorted to use the gifts we receive—the talents and unique bents of our created nature, as well as our spiritual gifts—to serve one another with kindness, respect, and appreciation.

The first examples of teamwork found in the Bible are in the opening chapter of Genesis. There we find the Trinity: the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, working in concert at creation (Genesis 1:1–3). Each member of the Godhead had a position to fill in the creation of the world; each One had a defined job to perform.

On the sixth day of creation, God fashioned Adam and Eve, the first human team. They were designed to complement each other and mirror the image and the community—the teamwork—of the Trinity (Genesis 1:26–27).

Ephesians 4:12 refers to the church—the community of believers—as the “body of Christ.” The church is to work as a team. First Corinthians 12:17–31 unpacks the idea of the church as a body in greater depth, using the systems of the human body as an analogy for the way team members need to rely on each other. Strong teams, just like strong bodies, are made up of interdependent members fulfilling defined tasks.

There is no jealousy in teamwork. When the whole team is working for the glory of God, there is no internal competition: “I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow” (1 Corinthians 3:6). The unified team understands that reaching goals is God’s doing. And what God is doing requires teamwork on our part: “The sower and the reaper may be glad together. Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. I sent you to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and you have reaped the benefits of their labor” (John 4:36–38).

Jesus’ twelve-man team was marked by its diversity (Mark 3:13–18; Luke 6:12–16). One was a tax collector, several were fishermen, one was politically active and known as “the Zealot.” The Gospels recount three and a half years of intense training as the disciples spent time at Jesus’ side as He taught and ministered to people. At the midpoint of their mentorship, Jesus sent the twelve out in two-man teams (Mark 6:7–13). They were given authority, direction, and opportunity. Jesus followed up with review, correction, and rest (Mark 6:30–31).

Moses, leader of the Israelites and author of the first five books of the Bible, led more than a million people through a nomadic existence that lasted forty years. His earliest teammate was Aaron, his brother (Exodus 6:26—7:20). Later, on the advice of his father-in-law, he added leaders for teams of thousands, hundreds, fifties, and tens (Exodus 24).

What is known as the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:1–17), given by God through Moses, contain some of the best advice for teamwork ever written. Put into a business framework, it could read something like this:

God is first. He leads, we listen and obey.
Nothing should get in the way of our devotion to Him.
We can’t use God and His name as an excuse, a threat, or a swear word.
We take a day off for rest and restoration.
Our parents [managers and mentors] have priority in our lives to direct our thinking and behavior. We honor them.
We shouldn’t commit character assassination (or any other kind of assassination).
We shouldn’t commit spiritual, emotional, or physical adultery. We put boundaries around our work relationships and teams.
We shouldn’t steal from one another—not ideas, credit, or personal belongings. Not even a co-worker’s coffee cup from the office kitchen.
We shouldn’t tell lies about each other or use subtle negative comments to rob others of their status or influence.
We shouldn’t covet a team member’s life, wife, position, or stuff.

Christian teamwork acknowledges God as the established leader and objective third party in every team, adding strength and cohesion to the bond. Having basic relational boundaries in place helps teams focus on the job at hand. With love for God and love for one another, unity is possible (Ephesians 4:13). It helps to be humble and “consider others better than ourselves” (Philippians 2:3).

Ecclesiastes 4:9–12 speaks of the value of teamwork: “Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their labor: If either of them falls down, one can help the other up. But pity anyone who falls and has no one to help them up. Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm. But how can one keep warm alone? Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.”

It doesn’t get any better than that.​


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SanctuaryBabel

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Psalm 91:1give us the best illustration of the value of a secret place: “He that dwells in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty” (KJV). Think of the secret hiding places we enjoyed as children. Imagine being ten years old and finding a secret hiding place under the stairs or in the honeysuckle bushes. You slipped inside, and it felt magical! You felt safe and protected from the world. You imagined that you could live there all the time and no one could find you. Often, you invited your best friend to share it with you, because secret hiding places are better shared with someone you love and trust.

That is the picture the psalmist is painting inPsalm 91. God has a secret hiding place, and He invites each of us to join Him there. Notice that He does not invite us to visit. The promise is to those who “dwell” there. To “dwell” means we live there. It becomes our address. God invites us to pack up and move to His secret place. To do so we must walk away from the clamor and enticements of the world. We must be willing to quiet our hearts before Him and allow Him to investigate those inner recesses we reveal to no one else. Secret places imply honesty and trust. We cannot join God in His secret place unless we are willing to be transparent and honest with Him.

Jesus said inMatthew 6:6, “But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen.” Jesus was not necessarily indicating a physical location, because we can pray anywhere at any time. But to really connect with God, we must enter into the secret place in our own spirits and meet God there. Quiet locations help, and we should seek solitude when we want to spend uninterrupted time with God. It is also helpful to have a designated place we go to spend time with God. Jesus did this while on earth. Although He often prayed in public, He also slipped away from the crowds and even His closest friends to spend time alone with His Father in solitude (Mark 1:35;Luke 4:42). But the secret place thatPsalm 91describes is not a physical location. It is a state of spiritual rest that prevails, regardless of outward circumstances.

There is great benefit from dwelling in “the secret place of the Most High.” When we choose to leave behind the world’s delights in favor of a lifestyle of continual spiritual contemplation, God draws near in new ways (James 4:8). We begin to see our sin the way He does (Isaiah 6:1–5). Time spent in the presence of God reveals our true thoughts and selfish motivations that might otherwise escape unnoticed. From this secret place, the fruit of the Spirit takes root and grows (Galatians 5:22). We start to see our lives from an eternal perspective. Earthly frustrations lose significance.

We do not have to neglect our responsibilities or relationships to dwell in this secret place. The key to moving there is a total surrender to the Holy Spirit and the will of God for our lives. This decision dominates our actions and changes our outlook. As we obey, God meets us in His secret place (seeJohn 14:21). He teaches us and encourages us to remain. Our continual choice to surrender fully to Him results in His continued strength to do so. If our lives are to bear lasting fruit, the power to bear that fruit comes from time spent with Him in the secret place (John 15:4–5;1 Corinthians 3:14–15;Psalm 92:12–14).


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