Dealing With a Type A Parent

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kaylagrl

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This song and I became really close friends when I was struggling with my family. It was hard for me to listen to probably because there is so much truth in it.

[video=youtube;MX0cmUj4hvw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX0cmUj4hvw[/video]


Exactly how Ive been feeling. Tired of the tears. Ive lost both my grandmothers to cancer,was close to them both.My grandfather passed not long after. My Aunt and Uncle,brother and sister died of cancer. A close cousin of mine found out she has breast cancer. I want to have peace and enjoy my family.We're not promised tomorrow.Cancer is all though my mothers family, I want to enjoy life. I dont understand why people want to live unhappy lives.Im just newly married.Its not fair to him to have to deal with this mess all the time. Just hoping it will get better.
 
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Rosesrock

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Cast all our care upon him for he careth for you. I know it's easy for others to just quote scripture and move in, but rely on Him. That's what He wants. And it will get better
 
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kaylagrl

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Again, famiy is the hardest but it sounds like you need to not answer your phone, change your number and pray for those who despitefully use you. Plus it's not wrong to ask your husband not to tell you what your dad says. You both can build a wall. If hub feels obligated because of the job, pray down a new one.
You can't make anyone apologize. You're only responsible for you and your actions and i think all this drama even good you're doing isn't healthy for you.

Yes,my husband said last week he wasnt going to say anything more to me because he saw it was upsetting to me. I havent been taking phone calls but we got to the same church and live in the same town,kind of hard to ignore him. I do need to pray in a new job.This one pays really good money so its hard to pass it up with the economy the way it is. We got a beautiful two story house on a steal that we love. He said the other day that maybe we should move away. I told my mother and she said she'd be moving with us. I dont want to be the cause of their divorce. Not sure which way to turn in this situation.
 
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Rosesrock

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Yes,my husband said last week he wasnt going to say anything more to me because he saw it was upsetting to me. I havent been taking phone calls but we got to the same church and live in the same town,kind of hard to ignore him. I do need to pray in a new job.This one pays really good money so its hard to pass it up with the economy the way it is. We got a beautiful two story house on a steal that we love. He said the other day that maybe we should move away. I told my mother and she said she'd be moving with us. I dont want to be the cause of their divorce. Not sure which way to turn in this situation.
It's NOT your job, nor your fault. If your parent get divorced, im sorry but that's not your busniess. Moving sounds good. Aline, you and hub. Cry out to God, Kayla. He wants to give you answers
 
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Sirk

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Exactly how Ive been feeling. Tired of the tears. Ive lost both my grandmothers to cancer,was close to them both.My grandfather passed not long after. My Aunt and Uncle,brother and sister died of cancer. A close cousin of mine found out she has breast cancer. I want to have peace and enjoy my family.We're not promised tomorrow.Cancer is all though my mothers family, I want to enjoy life. I dont understand why people want to live unhappy lives.Im just newly married.Its not fair to him to have to deal with this mess all the time. Just hoping it will get better.

I think you are at that age where it will get better. Just think of yourself as the eye of the storm. I'm struggling a bit right now because my wife's go to thing with the kids is to yell at them. I ask her what good it does to get all worked up about someone else's behavior. I think many people walk around right at the edge of fight or flight mode......meaning that they are always on the verge of the chemical flood on the brain that it comes with. It is all because people don't know how to process pain...theirs or others. Being an assertive person and taking responsibility for how you feel and experience the world is a key factor in becoming the eye of the storm.

[h=3]Proverbs 16:7 [/h]“When a man’s ways please the LORD, He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.”
 
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Sirk

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I wonder if on some level you have some grieving to do about your past. I know that for me there was a time when I was very nostalgic about my childhood and thinking about it made me sad. I think it was God's way of helping me grieve through some things.
 
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cmarieh

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I had a tremendously stressful week last week. Im at a loss of what to do.My father has a type A personality and he has our family in constant turmoil. I settle one dispute and here comes another.Ive been to councilors,pastors,read online,anything I can do to make the situation better. Im always the peacemaker and he never says sorry.Its draining, Ive fallen ill because of dealing with the drama.I'd leave him alone for good,I feel thats what he really wants,except for my mother.We're very close.Im losing hope of finding peace and a solution to this situation. Its really getting me down. There is nothing I can do right according to him.
I am so sorry that you are going through this. I can actually relate to you on some level. I have had some similar issues with my mom. I blame the fact of her seizures was causing her temper flare ups because she was never like that before and with the seizures she did hit her head a few times causing a trip to the ER. I believe she was frustrated that she was forced to quit her job and lost her driving privileges and had to stay at home all the time. She took her frustrations out on me and she would constantly yell at me and made me feel as though I was worthless. I took all the household responsibilities during this time and made sure the house was clean, laundry was kept up, and cooked all the meals. She even would hit me and throw plates at me and I ended up with a black eye. Don't get me wrong, I love my mom and if I was given the opportunity to do it over again I would because it taught me patience and understanding in dealing with her. My responsibilities grew when I became responsible to take care of my grandparents one of whom had Alzheimer's Disease and she was much worse, but I wouldn't change it for the world.

I would be praying for both of them to find resolution and pray for patience on your part because I know it is not easy having to step up to the plate and stand up to them, but be trusting God in your dilemma
 

MarcR

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Thank you, I will try that. Its hard when several people get talking at once and then nothing gets settled. He was disrespectful the other day and I got upset and told him I wouldnt be back to the house again. He said he didnt care.I was so upset I walked a mile in the dark before I calmed down. Its hard not to react when someone gets in your face.
Kaylagrl,

You may be assuming a role that is not intended for you. You may do better to train yourself, and help your mom to stop playing into the nastiness. If both of you calmly and politely tell your dad: 'sorry we've decided not to play that game any more' he may look for a better way to communicate.
 
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kaylagrl

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Ive been reading up on border line personality disorders and a whole lot is falling into place.I read it to my mother and the light came on for her too. I believe this has been the problem all these years. Christian councilors have told him he has a type A personality but I always felt there was something deeper to it all. I think this will be a great help in how we deal with issues from now on.I wish I could find someone that is versed in border line personalities to help him but he has an aversion to therapy and has to be dragged to it and therefore comes away no better than before. Thanks again for all the helpful advice and letting me vent. Its been very helpful.
 
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atwhatcost

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Thank you all for your advice and prayers.It really is helpful.Atwhatcost my father got my sister and her husband involved in things that were private and there was a family fight for 6yrs. Im surprised my husband,we were dating then,was able to stay with all the drama.My brother in law kept emailing me saying horrible things. Finally a couple yrs ago he apologized and said he was wrong.I accepted his apology and things have been calm since.

Its a long drawn out mess.Ive been every ones councilor but Im also the one every one turns on.My sister married an abusive man,he did everything but hit her. Ive been the peacemaker in my parents marriage as long as I can remember,even as a child. Ive spent hours talking both couples through their issues. I always joke if they had paid me like a councilor Id have a house on the beach in Cobo by now!

When I began to date they all turned on me,except my mother. And they turned on her for suppoting me. It was just hell while my husband and I were dating. I dont understand why they turned on me. Then it became a tug of war for my mothers attention. I had always been good to my mother but when my husband came along we were able to take her places and buy her better gifts then I could afford on my own. My sister only calls mom when she's in trouble. She lives two hrs away and she visits twice a year,she has two boys. Suddenly when I started dating and taking mom nice places my sister began to get upset. WW3 began to break out and she said horrible things to me and her mother. Suddenly I was to blame because she had a bad relationship with her mother. Mom has been very good to my sister over the years. So all three turned against me and my father was the worst. He told me I was the problem for their marriage problems,basically saying I was a burden to the family.My parents have been married 43 yrs.I dont remember a time where they had peace in their marriage.

Sorry to babble but its been exhausting.They are the only family I have nearby. I dont understand why they treat me as they do. I gave my parents $900 one Christmas when they couldnt afford rent,among other things. Yet it seems Im always to blame for family issues. I suffer from chronic pain since the age of 16 and the stress just makes it worse. A doctor gave me a test once when I was younger and told me the computer could not process my stress level,it was too high. He said to my mother "this is one sick girl" Its the joke of the family,they dont believe Im ill at all. They believe I do it for attention. If I just tried harder Id get over it. Im at wits end with my family.Even though I try to keep at a safe distance it doesnt help. I have two nephews I adore.One is ten yrs old. He told my mother and husband that basically I was lazy.He didnt know,he was repeating what he heard.When they said that I was sick he came to me. He said " I didnt know you were sick Auntie,I dont think Momma knows". I told him to not worry about it and I was ok then he said "but I just want to know the truth Auntie. I dont want to hurt anyone." I hid my tears but I admit I called up my sister and blasted her for bringing her children into the family issues.Anyhow Im going on week two of a father that refuses to apologize for kicking me out of his house,and a mother that is heart broken and calling me everyday saying hes treating her badly and a husband that is beginning a new job,with my father training him and saying things behind my back. I feel like Im living in a flipping soap opera. I just want to live in peace. I dont think that it is possible with my family.
When hubby was little, his stomach hurt so badly he spent time in the hospital for them to run tests on what was wrong. According to the test, the only thing that was wrong was his stomach hurt. The test did show the pain levels, so there was proof.

What the testers didn't know, and worse yet, what he didn't know, was there was direct correlation between stomach pain and what was happening in his house. He and his siblings won the quadfecta for dysfunctional family. (Quadfecta isn't really a word. It's supposed to be trifecta, but it's not three, it's four.) He grew up in a house where all four kinds of abuse happened daily -- emotional, physical, psychological, and sexual. That was the missing key in the test. If no one tells the doctors they won't know.

Sounds like you grew up in a similar situation. Not saying you got all four kinds of abuse, but obviously at least two -- emotional and psychological. And, yes, the side effect to that is physical pain. For you it's chronic, for hubby it's intestinal. It still is and he walked away from that home when he was 17 to join the Navy, and then he was kicked out for marrying first wife. (He came back, when he was still married to first wife, but has kept himself at a safe distance from all that hate since he walked out to join the Navy.) It doesn't matter. He still has the stomach issues. If you walked out, you'd still have the chronic pain, BUT it doesn't get worse.

That's the important thing to know, keep walking in it and it's going to do nothing but get worse. I learned that the hard way myself. I have chronic pain and stuck around a bullying mob on another website, and my pain got worse and worse and worse. I missed most of the summer in my garden because I was in too much pain to go out -- even just out the back door of my house. And, if you don't believe me that words hurt just as much as stepping on a nail hurt, read this link.

If you can't drop your family antics because you'll miss them, then drop it to save yourself from even worse physical pain. I understand chronic pain. We keep hoping it can get better, and believing it can't get worse, until it does get worse. DON'T let it get worse.

And check out that whole website, because, whether they're nice or mean to you, I strongly suspect your entire family is bullies. (Maybe not the nephews and nieces, but they're being indoctrinated into it.) Sirk gave good methods to deal with normal people. Judging from what you described, your family isn't normal people.

I get that. Neither are mine. Honestly, if I tried what Sirk suggested, that would be the standard family joke instead of my inability to make Swedish meatballs when I was young or getting peed on by a dog. (Every time I go home one or the other story will come up. I think they're funny stories too, but that's also my family's way of trying to control my part in our family melodrama too.) I've been cast as the family secret-keeper and family idiot. My rule was to listen while they told some heart-wrenching secrets, but never tell anyone and they certainly would never consider my advice because I know nothing about nothing.

Neither one of us can control our families. No one can control another person. The best we can do is to control ourselves. Your form has been to mediate, which, BTW, is what they had against your hubby. He was going to disrupt the family dynamics, so they had logical reasons to dislike him. I'm not sure it's a good idea for him to work with your dad, unless hubby is an extremely strong-willed man, or he won't be seeing much of your father. I say that because your dad is hiring him, in part, to control him and involve him in the famiy drama and to control him gives him more leverage to control you.

Granted, it's not like it is a bad idea either, because my hubby is very strong-willed so wouldn't buy into any of the side stuff from my dad, if he ever worked with him. He's just not for sale to be bought or sold. So, there is no problem if your hubby is like that too, other than he'll drive your dad nuts for not complying. lol

Duck! Truly, truly DUCK.

Next time you take out your nephew for some quality time, tell the truth in love. No, not what you think of your sister. That's none of his business and it's just gossip if you do that. But tell him true answers when he asks who you are. And then don't call your sister afterward to complain about how she's raising him and the lies she's giving him. Kids are smart. They may take a while, but they can figure out who is being honest with them and who isn't. Guaranteed, the side that doesn't pull them into it even further is the side they trust more.

And likewise, same thing with you. You will trust yourself more, if you tell yourself the truth and not let them pull you in.

Your siblings call or e-mail you to talk family gossip? Tell them you don't want to hear it, and will hang up/delete e-mail if they persist. Good news for you. I've done that. (There are six of us. :eek:) Once they found out, I refuse to play that game, and the only stuff I want to hear is news about them and their lives, not anyone else's life, well... Umm? Very few call anymore. I no longer serve their purpose. :eek:

I also stopped trying to prove that bullying mob was a bullying mob. My garden is wonderful! We just came in from sitting in it. Pain levels have lowered. (Still chronic pain, but so much less stress, so it's manageable.)

Stop giving them what they want, and suddenly they are stuck with their problems instead of letting you deal with them. Don't let Mom talk your ear off about your Dad. Don't let your sister talk your ear off about your Mom. Don't go back to the source when your niece or nephew tell something they are raised to believe, but simply tell them what's going on with you. The rest of the family? If they have questions, have them ask that person.

And don't let your Dad go down his long list of what's wrong with you. Instead, talk about his favorite hobby. (I would swear fathers are the hardest to deal with, but I can't really. Haven't had Mom in the picture since 1972, so no idea if she wouldn't have been harder.) If that doesn't work, make sure he knows you aren't concerned about his list anymore. (Show it, don't say it.)

You can't control them. Never could although, bless your heart for trying. (And don't do that anymore, because it's also destroying your heart -- not physically, although maybe that too, but it is causing real pain.) You can control how you act and react.) Don't react like they expect. React like you wanted to all along if you didn't become the mediator. It blows their minds, but they may never figure out what changed. lol

Oh, BTW, your hubby stuck around because he found out you were worth it. Same reason I stuck with hubby after meeting his family and same reason he stuck with me after meeting my family. :D
 
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atwhatcost

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Yes,my husband said last week he wasnt going to say anything more to me because he saw it was upsetting to me. I havent been taking phone calls but we got to the same church and live in the same town,kind of hard to ignore him. I do need to pray in a new job.This one pays really good money so its hard to pass it up with the economy the way it is. We got a beautiful two story house on a steal that we love. He said the other day that maybe we should move away. I told my mother and she said she'd be moving with us. I dont want to be the cause of their divorce. Not sure which way to turn in this situation.
He's your dad. They're your family. Don't ignore them. Refuse to carry their baggage for them. Big difference!

Sounds like hubby has his doubts about that job. Support him in whatever decision he makes, but you two are not only allowed to talk about the decision -- you should be taking quite a few hours to seriously talk it over. Prayer needs to be a priority so God gets in last word. Moving away really does sound like a good idea to me, but I don't know all the facts, and, even if I did, I'm not as invested as you are in all this. Your hubby is. Let him know what you think, honestly and fairly. And then listen to what he thinks. I know the two of you and God can make a good decision if you do that.

As for your mother? Whether she moves with you is entirely her own decision. You are no longer family mediator, nor are you responsible for her life. One thing for sure, if she moves with you, make sure she doesn't move IN with you. If she decides to leave, then it's up to her to figure out the rest of her life -- not you. You've never been responsible for their marriage. You're only half responsible for your own.

Again, that's their baggage, not yours!

Got to work on that concept, because your habit is to be the baggage handler for your blood family. You've quit that job, remember?
 
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atwhatcost

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Ive been reading up on border line personality disorders and a whole lot is falling into place.I read it to my mother and the light came on for her too. I believe this has been the problem all these years. Christian councilors have told him he has a type A personality but I always felt there was something deeper to it all. I think this will be a great help in how we deal with issues from now on.I wish I could find someone that is versed in border line personalities to help him but he has an aversion to therapy and has to be dragged to it and therefore comes away no better than before. Thanks again for all the helpful advice and letting me vent. Its been very helpful.
I'm 59. Dad's almost 85. A few months ago, I figured out what disorder he has. (No borderline at all. He plunged in full-time before my earliest memories.) His problem has multiplied in the last few years. Not only dies he have a terrible disorder, he now has dementia. He wouldn't go to a psychologist before he had dementia. He won't change, but, now, he'll get even worse since that's what dementia is all about.

The only thing I got out of what is wrong with him is the release of that burden of "did I do something wrong?" as well as some understanding of how bad his life has been because he never dealt with it or anything. Doesn't help him at all, and no one can fix him. Same deal you get if you find out all your family members have psychological problems. There's a good chance they do, just by being around him for so many years. Likewise, same with you. Easier to diagnose others than to understand ourselves.

(And, no, I'm not hinting I see any psychological problems with you. I just recognized how all six of Dad's kids have dealt with his disability not even knowing it was a disability and can see how it has affected each one of us in different, and somewhat bizarre, ways. It sure explains why none of us are typical/normal as hard as most of us have tried for that. lol)
 
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Sirk

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As Christians we shouldn't be tossed and turned by the waves of life. We're supposed to demonstrate what a relationship with Jesus looks like. We get to be a strong link in the chain of those who come after us.
 
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kaylagrl

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When hubby was little, his stomach hurt so badly he spent time in the hospital for them to run tests on what was wrong. According to the test, the only thing that was wrong was his stomach hurt. The test did show the pain levels, so there was proof.

What the testers didn't know, and worse yet, what he didn't know, was there was direct correlation between stomach pain and what was happening in his house. He and his siblings won the quadfecta for dysfunctional family. (Quadfecta isn't really a word. It's supposed to be trifecta, but it's not three, it's four.) He grew up in a house where all four kinds of abuse happened daily -- emotional, physical, psychological, and sexual. That was the missing key in the test. If no one tells the doctors they won't know.

Sounds like you grew up in a similar situation. Not saying you got all four kinds of abuse, but obviously at least two -- emotional and psychological. And, yes, the side effect to that is physical pain. For you it's chronic, for hubby it's intestinal. It still is and he walked away from that home when he was 17 to join the Navy, and then he was kicked out for marrying first wife. (He came back, when he was still married to first wife, but has kept himself at a safe distance from all that hate since he walked out to join the Navy.) It doesn't matter. He still has the stomach issues. If you walked out, you'd still have the chronic pain, BUT it doesn't get worse.

That's the important thing to know, keep walking in it and it's going to do nothing but get worse. I learned that the hard way myself. I have chronic pain and stuck around a bullying mob on another website, and my pain got worse and worse and worse. I missed most of the summer in my garden because I was in too much pain to go out -- even just out the back door of my house. And, if you don't believe me that words hurt just as much as stepping on a nail hurt, read this link.

If you can't drop your family antics because you'll miss them, then drop it to save yourself from even worse physical pain. I understand chronic pain. We keep hoping it can get better, and believing it can't get worse, until it does get worse. DON'T let it get worse.

And check out that whole website, because, whether they're nice or mean to you, I strongly suspect your entire family is bullies. (Maybe not the nephews and nieces, but they're being indoctrinated into it.) Sirk gave good methods to deal with normal people. Judging from what you described, your family isn't normal people.

I get that. Neither are mine. Honestly, if I tried what Sirk suggested, that would be the standard family joke instead of my inability to make Swedish meatballs when I was young or getting peed on by a dog. (Every time I go home one or the other story will come up. I think they're funny stories too, but that's also my family's way of trying to control my part in our family melodrama too.) I've been cast as the family secret-keeper and family idiot. My rule was to listen while they told some heart-wrenching secrets, but never tell anyone and they certainly would never consider my advice because I know nothing about nothing.

Neither one of us can control our families. No one can control another person. The best we can do is to control ourselves. Your form has been to mediate, which, BTW, is what they had against your hubby. He was going to disrupt the family dynamics, so they had logical reasons to dislike him. I'm not sure it's a good idea for him to work with your dad, unless hubby is an extremely strong-willed man, or he won't be seeing much of your father. I say that because your dad is hiring him, in part, to control him and involve him in the famiy drama and to control him gives him more leverage to control you.

Granted, it's not like it is a bad idea either, because my hubby is very strong-willed so wouldn't buy into any of the side stuff from my dad, if he ever worked with him. He's just not for sale to be bought or sold. So, there is no problem if your hubby is like that too, other than he'll drive your dad nuts for not complying. lol

Duck! Truly, truly DUCK.

Next time you take out your nephew for some quality time, tell the truth in love. No, not what you think of your sister. That's none of his business and it's just gossip if you do that. But tell him true answers when he asks who you are. And then don't call your sister afterward to complain about how she's raising him and the lies she's giving him. Kids are smart. They may take a while, but they can figure out who is being honest with them and who isn't. Guaranteed, the side that doesn't pull them into it even further is the side they trust more.

And likewise, same thing with you. You will trust yourself more, if you tell yourself the truth and not let them pull you in.

Your siblings call or e-mail you to talk family gossip? Tell them you don't want to hear it, and will hang up/delete e-mail if they persist. Good news for you. I've done that. (There are six of us. :eek:) Once they found out, I refuse to play that game, and the only stuff I want to hear is news about them and their lives, not anyone else's life, well... Umm? Very few call anymore. I no longer serve their purpose. :eek:

I also stopped trying to prove that bullying mob was a bullying mob. My garden is wonderful! We just came in from sitting in it. Pain levels have lowered. (Still chronic pain, but so much less stress, so it's manageable.)

Stop giving them what they want, and suddenly they are stuck with their problems instead of letting you deal with them. Don't let Mom talk your ear off about your Dad. Don't let your sister talk your ear off about your Mom. Don't go back to the source when your niece or nephew tell something they are raised to believe, but simply tell them what's going on with you. The rest of the family? If they have questions, have them ask that person.

And don't let your Dad go down his long list of what's wrong with you. Instead, talk about his favorite hobby. (I would swear fathers are the hardest to deal with, but I can't really. Haven't had Mom in the picture since 1972, so no idea if she wouldn't have been harder.) If that doesn't work, make sure he knows you aren't concerned about his list anymore. (Show it, don't say it.)

You can't control them. Never could although, bless your heart for trying. (And don't do that anymore, because it's also destroying your heart -- not physically, although maybe that too, but it is causing real pain.) You can control how you act and react.) Don't react like they expect. React like you wanted to all along if you didn't become the mediator. It blows their minds, but they may never figure out what changed. lol

Oh, BTW, your hubby stuck around because he found out you were worth it. Same reason I stuck with hubby after meeting his family and same reason he stuck with me after meeting my family. :D

Thank you atwhatcost for sharing your story and for your advice.I have the link you gave up now and will read it over. My father and husband are working at the same job together but thankfully he is not his boss. So Im hoping it will work out. I think you are right about why my family caused such a fuss when he and I started dating. Your right about the chronic pain too.Your post really ministered to me.In fact I need to read it again.Thank you.



ps. My father just called and said he wanted to talk face to face and not by email as I had suggested.He can be very belligerent when I try to talk. I said Id meet him in a restaurant and that was all I was willing to do. So we'll see where it goes from there.

 
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Sirk

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Thank you atwhatcost for sharing your story and for your advice.I have the link you gave up now and will read it over. My father and husband are working at the same job together but thankfully he is not his boss. So Im hoping it will work out. I think you are right about why my family caused such a fuss when he and I started dating. Your right about the chronic pain too.Your post really ministered to me.In fact I need to read it again.Thank you.



ps. My father just called and said he wanted to talk face to face and not by email as I had suggested.He can be very belligerent when I try to talk. I said Id meet him in a restaurant and that was all I was willing to do. So we'll see where it goes from there.


your dad is carrying around some hurt in the form of rejection... or something. See if you can find out what it is.
 
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atwhatcost

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Thank you atwhatcost for sharing your story and for your advice.I have the link you gave up now and will read it over. My father and husband are working at the same job together but thankfully he is not his boss. So Im hoping it will work out. I think you are right about why my family caused such a fuss when he and I started dating. Your right about the chronic pain too.Your post really ministered to me.In fact I need to read it again.Thank you.



ps. My father just called and said he wanted to talk face to face and not by email as I had suggested.He can be very belligerent when I try to talk. I said Id meet him in a restaurant and that was all I was willing to do. So we'll see where it goes from there.

Brilliant! Especially if he hates to make a scene in public.
 
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kaylagrl

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Brilliant! Especially if he hates to make a scene in public.
He does,he's well known in the town. Its a pity,he could be a great leader if he could get his personality under control.
 
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Rosesrock

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Praying for your meeting with your dad. Allow God to talk through you. Asking wisdom for you
 
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kaylagrl

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Praying for your meeting with your dad. Allow God to talk through you. Asking wisdom for you

Thank you so much. Its very stressful to talk to a person who does not want to make peace.I will let you all know how it turns out.Thanks again roses.