jesus saves corrupt sinners.
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no assumptions.
especially no assumption nor the belief that everyone is unsaved.
clearly or not , some are saved. this is not to be doubted.
your question:
why does it sound that way? mostly because of the wolves posting lies about Scripture, about themselves, and about me and others posting the truth.
why does it sound that way? maybe because instead of testing you just 'assume' that everyone who says they're a christian is. and when one after another fails the test,
you start to wonder.
when someones posting directly contradicts scripture, like the rcc heresy does, for common example, and they attack those who post truth instead of correcting themselves or admitting their error,
... .... well, it is simpler too. who will you follow? who will you listen to? JESUS !? hopefully.
Jesus does not stay quiet. HIS SHEEP hear HIS VOICE (HE SAYS).
and those who attack His Word, try to discredit it, attack and slander HIS SHEEP,
are by definition 'not saved'.
especially no assumption nor the belief that everyone is unsaved.
clearly or not , some are saved. this is not to be doubted.
your question:
why does it sound that way? mostly because of the wolves posting lies about Scripture, about themselves, and about me and others posting the truth.
why does it sound that way? maybe because instead of testing you just 'assume' that everyone who says they're a christian is. and when one after another fails the test,
you start to wonder.
when someones posting directly contradicts scripture, like the rcc heresy does, for common example, and they attack those who post truth instead of correcting themselves or admitting their error,
... .... well, it is simpler too. who will you follow? who will you listen to? JESUS !? hopefully.
Jesus does not stay quiet. HIS SHEEP hear HIS VOICE (HE SAYS).
and those who attack His Word, try to discredit it, attack and slander HIS SHEEP,
are by definition 'not saved'.
But when Christians are attacked Jesus has told us to turn the other cheek and pray for our enemies and do good to those who spitefully use you..... So if you turn the other cheek then it should stand to reason the wolves would go away instead you are arguing and it gives more fuel to the fire instead of putting the fire out.....
Don't get me wrong I can get fired up too we are not perfect yet.....but we are counseled to love God with all our heart, soul, strength and our neighbor as ourselves.....These instructions are really hard to do but it is the way Jesus asked us to act....
Don't get me wrong I can get fired up too we are not perfect yet.....but we are counseled to love God with all our heart, soul, strength and our neighbor as ourselves.....These instructions are really hard to do but it is the way Jesus asked us to act....
yahshua hamashiach(jesus christ) IS the son of yahweh, the messiah, who came in the flesh , born a man, suffered and died at the hands of man (though no one could take his life-he laid it down for us).
yahweh raised him from the grave , from death, so we all could have hope for resurrection to life without end, life eternal with yahweh by grace and faith in yahshua.
i had no way to save myself from my sin.
i had no way to save myself from yahweh's just and perfect judgment of death.
(the price of sin is death).
i called on yahshua(jesus), and was immersed in his name, and was washed clean by HIS BLOOD just as HIS WORD SAYS FOREVER.
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reborn and sirk (and others) have posted enough to condemn themselves. they can still repent, perhaps, but maybe not. there is a sin that leads to death , according to Scripture, that we are not even to pray for.
their own words, not mine, will be their judge. even Jesus will not judge them He says in Scripture - HE SAYS in HIS WORD, that their own words will judge them; and they will be judged for what they have done. (if they don't repent, if yahweh permits them to).
yahweh raised him from the grave , from death, so we all could have hope for resurrection to life without end, life eternal with yahweh by grace and faith in yahshua.
i had no way to save myself from my sin.
i had no way to save myself from yahweh's just and perfect judgment of death.
(the price of sin is death).
i called on yahshua(jesus), and was immersed in his name, and was washed clean by HIS BLOOD just as HIS WORD SAYS FOREVER.
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reborn and sirk (and others) have posted enough to condemn themselves. they can still repent, perhaps, but maybe not. there is a sin that leads to death , according to Scripture, that we are not even to pray for.
their own words, not mine, will be their judge. even Jesus will not judge them He says in Scripture - HE SAYS in HIS WORD, that their own words will judge them; and they will be judged for what they have done. (if they don't repent, if yahweh permits them to).
you are not entirely wrong here, and actually it is 'easy' to ignore them, but for the fact that others have been deceived by them for so long, and new readers are simply being destroyed by their words and by their lives (i.e. not just on the forum, but from what they themselves post lives around them are being destroyed instead of helped).
"take no part in their works of darkness(which are very evident from their own words/posts),
but rather expose them, so you won't share the penalty of their sin."
"take no part in their works of darkness(which are very evident from their own words/posts),
but rather expose them, so you won't share the penalty of their sin."
if you don't listen,
if you don't repent, Jesus will ask you one day why you didn't listen to Him when He sent HIS WORD to save you from your sin and from yourself.
your blood is on your own hands,
though we (ekklesia born again ones set apart in Jesus) pray as we are permitted to that you be saved and not die, Jesus will not override your sin nor your free will to save you, unless you are willing.
if you don't repent, Jesus will ask you one day why you didn't listen to Him when He sent HIS WORD to save you from your sin and from yourself.
your blood is on your own hands,
though we (ekklesia born again ones set apart in Jesus) pray as we are permitted to that you be saved and not die, Jesus will not override your sin nor your free will to save you, unless you are willing.