jesus saves corrupt sinners.
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So true.....I wonder what Jesus will say about all his squandered opportunities to speak life to people. He thinks that because he can recite bible verses that his heart is all fixed and hunky dory. His Jesus feels to me like falling off a 20 story building into a pit of alligators in 3 inches of water.
you can't tell who has peace and who doesn't from the posts.
even in person, it is unlikely you could tell.
go back to GOD'S WORD (THE ONLY STANDARD RELIABLE) (which we will get around to, and it would have been simpler to have pointed a lot of this out much earlier, but
there really is not a good structure here for doing this ) ---
when the error in their posts was shown by Scripture, they simply deny it. no matter who shows them.
they deny it.
like the catholics. very much contrary to Scripture, but they continually and on and on and on deny it.
since they post so much in error, and they deny it, and they don't care, and it doesn't matter who exposes their error by Scripture,
there's really not much way to help them.
it would have been nice, maybe very naive, to expect the wolves to stay away from this thread.
but like JESUS SAID DIRECTLY to all of us disciples immersed in his name, "I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves."
so it is. wolves love to come after the sheep.
even in person, it is unlikely you could tell.
go back to GOD'S WORD (THE ONLY STANDARD RELIABLE) (which we will get around to, and it would have been simpler to have pointed a lot of this out much earlier, but
there really is not a good structure here for doing this ) ---
when the error in their posts was shown by Scripture, they simply deny it. no matter who shows them.
they deny it.
like the catholics. very much contrary to Scripture, but they continually and on and on and on deny it.
since they post so much in error, and they deny it, and they don't care, and it doesn't matter who exposes their error by Scripture,
there's really not much way to help them.
it would have been nice, maybe very naive, to expect the wolves to stay away from this thread.
but like JESUS SAID DIRECTLY to all of us disciples immersed in his name, "I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves."
so it is. wolves love to come after the sheep.
All I know is that only God can rightfully judge salvation, motive and the thoughts and intents of the heart and that under grace he is merciful, slow to anger and full of mercy, forgiveness and love toward those who have trusted into his eternal saving faith!
This is not to say that a tree and the corrupt dogma that it spews cannot be known and judged heretical...such is the case!
This is not to say that a tree and the corrupt dogma that it spews cannot be known and judged heretical...such is the case!
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oh, the question may have been perfect, and will get to it eventually.
notice the sheep on this forum, of which i am only one of them, by sheer grace of yahweh in yahshua.
next,
notice who speaks against us with their posts. they are the wolves. since they claim otherwise,
you'll have to pray a lot, (continually) , and ask yahweh to reveal the truth through his word --
very specific by the way --- HIS WORD gives very simple 'tests' they fail. we might or might not be able to get into them later.
they've pretty much done as expected, i.e. what wolves do, and torn apart the flock here....
we'll have to wait on the SHEPHERD JESUS, and follow HIM.
notice the sheep on this forum, of which i am only one of them, by sheer grace of yahweh in yahshua.
next,
notice who speaks against us with their posts. they are the wolves. since they claim otherwise,
you'll have to pray a lot, (continually) , and ask yahweh to reveal the truth through his word --
very specific by the way --- HIS WORD gives very simple 'tests' they fail. we might or might not be able to get into them later.
they've pretty much done as expected, i.e. what wolves do, and torn apart the flock here....
we'll have to wait on the SHEPHERD JESUS, and follow HIM.
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My crazy uncle could out drink all his great-grand nieces and nephews under the table. (And that's saying something since some of them graduated Harvard to become lawyers, so they excelled at drinking. lol) During WWI he spied on Germany from above. (WWI, so he was in a balloon taking photos. How crazy is that?) He also ran eight family businesses. He was crazy, but productive.
What about this crazy uncle do you think you can reach? He's deaf and I don't think you understand is 1-of-24 sign language. He's not productive either. So... what are you expecting to happen, Sirk? (Not being bossy or condescending. Just checking if it's worth joining you in. Prayer I can do. I'm just not sure what else to do about Crazy Uncle though, and maybe you do know.)
Oh, BTW, PR, if you, perchance, can read my lips, no purpose in answer. This wasn't directed at you, and I've ignored you, so save your finger muscles.
What about this crazy uncle do you think you can reach? He's deaf and I don't think you understand is 1-of-24 sign language. He's not productive either. So... what are you expecting to happen, Sirk? (Not being bossy or condescending. Just checking if it's worth joining you in. Prayer I can do. I'm just not sure what else to do about Crazy Uncle though, and maybe you do know.)
Oh, BTW, PR, if you, perchance, can read my lips, no purpose in answer. This wasn't directed at you, and I've ignored you, so save your finger muscles.
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Im terribly sorry but youve lost me, because you havent answered my question. As a responsible person pro active in my health, physically and spiritually, you seem to be stuck on others so much that you can't tell me personally what Christ has done for you which for me, is the same as me trusting a package that says toothpaste and ultimately is glue, which ingested is harmful. I was interested in what you had to say till you focused on others.
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Hoe dee doe! (Translated, "Hold the door!") The twenty four elders may not be just twenty four, any more than the twelve tribes are twelve people,
Revelation 5:8-10 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
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The 24 Elders comment was sarcasm, based on the fact that he claimed he hears from Christ, and "judges" from there.
I have no need to lie. Jeff needs no help from me or others to detroy his reputation here. He's awesome at that.
Just fumble through his posts, and you will see it, and many many many other posts that cause division.
Do you not know that mans work? Have you read his nasty posts to women and others ?
Who's more credible here? Me or Jeff? Honestly, crossnote?
I feel no need to "win" this battle with him. Cool, lm wrong, he's right, l lie, he's truth.
If l am....ahem...lying.....l will be held accountable for it by God.
I have no need to lie. Jeff needs no help from me or others to detroy his reputation here. He's awesome at that.
Just fumble through his posts, and you will see it, and many many many other posts that cause division.
Do you not know that mans work? Have you read his nasty posts to women and others ?
Who's more credible here? Me or Jeff? Honestly, crossnote?
I feel no need to "win" this battle with him. Cool, lm wrong, he's right, l lie, he's truth.
If l am....ahem...lying.....l will be held accountable for it by God.
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Although, we could turn this into a discussion on the 24 Elders?
It might be more productive than this useless bickering?
I'm sure DCon would chime in?
l will start.
I believe that the 24 Elders are mentioned in Revelation? Just my opinion though.
It might be more productive than this useless bickering?
I'm sure DCon would chime in?
l will start.
I believe that the 24 Elders are mentioned in Revelation? Just my opinion though.
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As opposed to those who refer to him as a crazy uncle, one of the three wisemen, part of the fantastic four, one of the 24 elders and so on?
I've had the misfortune of reading the posts on this thread and it caused my stomach to churn.
I think that the comment about standing in front of the mirror was the only one worthy of reading.
I've had the misfortune of reading the posts on this thread and it caused my stomach to churn.
I think that the comment about standing in front of the mirror was the only one worthy of reading.
Sorry, it was a summary, and sarcasm. ( Which is my reputation)
My apologies. IMO, he has claimed worse things,..... lMO (so l wont have to dig through his posts)
The guy is a bit out there, but l'm pretty sure he knows hes not one of the 24 Elders?
I think?
He has claimed to be able to judge....get the reference?
My apologies. IMO, he has claimed worse things,..... lMO (so l wont have to dig through his posts)
The guy is a bit out there, but l'm pretty sure he knows hes not one of the 24 Elders?
I think?
He has claimed to be able to judge....get the reference?
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