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Don't know they'd get very far, anyway. They have to get on with perverting. It's what perverts do. But so few read their posts, and nobody of truth who would agree. I have no interest in three screens of vomitous. When you have their number, it's the Page Down key for me, unless happening on an interesting dialog, but, even then, reading them, usually only in the reply of a credible person.
There are people here who've posted little but one abrasive idea, ever, which is classic trolling, worse than some poor old, senile and self absorbed man, a handful of brains cells remaining and telling the same fish story, three times a day, six times a day on holidays.
There are people here who've posted little but one abrasive idea, ever, which is classic trolling, worse than some poor old, senile and self absorbed man, a handful of brains cells remaining and telling the same fish story, three times a day, six times a day on holidays.
This statement proves your have no clue to what is being said or implied.....Thread and post number of anyone who has said that sin is OK WITH GOD.......al this does is prove that you misrepresent the truth and belief of what has been said by those who disagree with your erroneous view......NO ONE HAS SAID nor IMPLIED that sin is OK WITH GOD......!
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We debate you guys, because there is a chance that you have never trusted in Christ ALONE for your salvation.
I give most everybody the benefit of the doubt that they are saved. And people who believe in loss of salvation are just believers who have fallen away from truth.
But, there is a chance that they never trusted in Christ alone and a work or 2 was attached to that belief. This is not the kind of faith the Holy Spirit will make effectual for salvation. It has to be in Christ alone.
So it is very worthy to debate eternal security.
I give most everybody the benefit of the doubt that they are saved. And people who believe in loss of salvation are just believers who have fallen away from truth.
But, there is a chance that they never trusted in Christ alone and a work or 2 was attached to that belief. This is not the kind of faith the Holy Spirit will make effectual for salvation. It has to be in Christ alone.
So it is very worthy to debate eternal security.
1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
So long as we have a sin nature, that being the old man, we will have sin in us.
On the other hand, so long as we have the new regenerated God like man, and confess our sins, then we are righteousness of God in Christ Jesus through faith and not sinners. Even as Paul said "he wronged no man", when he admitted that he persecuted the church. When we repent of our sins, then we are forgiven of our sins, and they are forgotten, blotted out by the blood of Christ, nailed to the cross, and cleansed of ALL unrighteousness, as though we had never sinned. That is not a sinner saved by grace, but the righteous of the Lord.
So, stop looking at yourselves as though you are sinners saved by grace, and walking as such, when you can be the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. For our righteousness is not of us neither is it our own, but it is of and from God through faith in Christ Jesus if we will repent.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
So long as we have a sin nature, that being the old man, we will have sin in us.
On the other hand, so long as we have the new regenerated God like man, and confess our sins, then we are righteousness of God in Christ Jesus through faith and not sinners. Even as Paul said "he wronged no man", when he admitted that he persecuted the church. When we repent of our sins, then we are forgiven of our sins, and they are forgotten, blotted out by the blood of Christ, nailed to the cross, and cleansed of ALL unrighteousness, as though we had never sinned. That is not a sinner saved by grace, but the righteous of the Lord.
So, stop looking at yourselves as though you are sinners saved by grace, and walking as such, when you can be the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. For our righteousness is not of us neither is it our own, but it is of and from God through faith in Christ Jesus if we will repent.
The Question is, Would Jesus read them or ignore them? Seems to me Jesus would read them to try to better understand WHY they believe as they do, in order to try to use Scriptures to help them to understand their error. But not this generation, let us walk on the other side of the street when someone is in need of help, counsel, or correction. Yes this generation is good at ignoring those in need.
Are that that teach false doctrines in need of Scriptural Truths? Yes, Who shall give it to them, if nobody is reading what they right? How can a person help another who is teaching false doctrines, if they do not even know WHY they are teaching what they are or WHY the believe it to be True.
The Question is, if Jesus is Truly inside a person, would He (Jesus) not want to reach out and help the lost? Is that not LOVE?
Not this generation, let us ignore those who teach false doctrines, and let our hands be clean of that persons blood because we have DONE all we could to help that person, and ALL this generation does is ignore, or scroll down. Yep Jesus is real pleased with this generation, going out of our way to help those who believe false doctrines. This is a wicked generation.
^i^ Responding to Post #920
Are that that teach false doctrines in need of Scriptural Truths? Yes, Who shall give it to them, if nobody is reading what they right? How can a person help another who is teaching false doctrines, if they do not even know WHY they are teaching what they are or WHY the believe it to be True.
The Question is, if Jesus is Truly inside a person, would He (Jesus) not want to reach out and help the lost? Is that not LOVE?
Not this generation, let us ignore those who teach false doctrines, and let our hands be clean of that persons blood because we have DONE all we could to help that person, and ALL this generation does is ignore, or scroll down. Yep Jesus is real pleased with this generation, going out of our way to help those who believe false doctrines. This is a wicked generation.
^i^ Responding to Post #920
According to Scriptures who is Eternal life for? NOT according to what people teach, not according to what men teach, Who does Eternal Salvation belong too ACCORDING TO THE WORD OF GOD.
Heb_5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
There you have it, straight from the Holy Inspired Word of God itself, plainly and clearly teaching WHO has Eternal Salvation, it is unto them that OBEY JESUS, NOT to them who disobey Him. Those who believe you have Eternal Salvation yet continue to disobey Him, are the ones who do not know the Truth, nor do they believe Scriptures which plainly teach Eternal Salvation is unto them that OBEY, woe to them who do not obey Him still thinking they have Eternal Salvation because that is what man interprets the Scriptures to mean, Yet Scriptures do not teach that at all.
Have you not read in Scriptures over and over and over, that those who Truly Love Jesus keep His Commandments, They do NOT break His Commandments. What are His Commandments? Do not listen to what men teach His Commandments are, listen to the Bible which PLAINLY tells us what His Commandments are.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should 1) BELIEVE (Faith) on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and 2) LOVE ONE ANOTHER (Works), as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. (Who does Jesus dwell in according to the Word of God, the Inspired Word of God? Those who KEEP His Commandments) And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Woe to this generation which believes doctrines of men, they believe the Interpretations of men, which interprets the Bible to mean Eternal Salvation is unto those who accept Jesus Christ and it does not matter if you OBEY Him or not Obey Him, you are still SAVED, false doctrines, which the Scriptures does not teach, only the interpretations of men teach that doctrine. SCRIPTURES teach Eternal Salvation is unto them that OBEY JESUS, and JESUS Commands us to LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Those who claim to have Eternal Salvation and do NOT Love One Another, are they that do not know the Truth nor will they be taken When Jesus Returns, these all will be weeping and gnashing their teeth, because they though ignorance believed OSAS, which the Scriptures DO NOT TEACH. They will be left behind, and it is not like God did not try to warn them, for God has sent me and many others to teach against the false doctrine OSAS. Have they gone to the Scriptures to search if what we say is TRUE or NOT? No they haven't because they do not want to know the Truth, they want to believe as they do, and therefore do not search the Scriptures to see if the things i teach is the Truth or not, NO what i teach is contrary to what you believe, therefore you will not search the Scriptures to see if what i say is Truth or not, there is no excuse for those who are left behind, even though they thought with all their hearts they were going to get taken, ONLY a few has found that narrow and difficult path that leads to everlasting life, and the MANY will not listen to the FEW who know the Truth, the Many will continue on the path of living in their sins (obeying satan) and still think they are Heaven Bound, because they hold on to with their lives the doctrine of OSAS and will not let go of it no matter who tries to tell them otherwise, and you know what, it will cost them just that, their lives. i have told you the Truth, i have testified that what i teach God has told me, my hands are clean of your blood those who believe OSAS, which is a lie satan started in order to KEEP people sinning, to KEEP them in bondage to sin all the while thinking they are Heaven bound. So you go ahead and THINK you have Eternal Salvation, but know this, the SCRIPTURES do not lie, and the Scriptures plainly teach WHO Eternal Salvation is for, and it is to them that OBEY JESUS, to them that LOVE ONE ANOTHER. i have told you the Truth, search the Scriptures to see if what i say is True or not, Wait forgot what generation i am talking too, you already know the Truth, therefore it is on me to PROVE you wrong, right? WRONG. God told me i am not called to convince people of the Truth, i am called to reveal the Truths which He told me to reveal to a generation that will altogether ignore it, or scroll down and not read it. What i am called to do, says God to me, is to reveal the Truth to you, so you will not be able to plead ignorance on Judgment Day. i have told you the Truth, God has revealed the Truth to you, via through His servant.
Eternal Salvation is unto the that OBEY Jesus. Do i say and teach that, or does Scriptures teach that?
This Generation teaches that they have Eternal Salvation, even though they do not obey Jesus ALL the time, they are deceived and do not know the Truth. Jesus testifies Himself that a persons name can be blotted out of the Book of Life. That means a persons name that IS written in the Book of Life (SAVED) Can be removed. it would be in your best interest, because your eternal life is at stake here, that you search the Scriptures to find out the Truth concerning this matter, if you do, you are wise. But if you continue to merely believe you know the Truth and need not search the Scriptures, you are unwise, and there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth when MANY people who thought they were SAVED, will not be taken up with Him, Remember the Words of our Lord.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? (Go to Church all the time, Are we not under your Blood, Are we not SAVED by GRACE, Are we not ALWAYS SAVED)
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, (you that continue to live in sin) ye that work iniquity.
Woe indeed.
^i^ Responding to Post #924
Heb_5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
There you have it, straight from the Holy Inspired Word of God itself, plainly and clearly teaching WHO has Eternal Salvation, it is unto them that OBEY JESUS, NOT to them who disobey Him. Those who believe you have Eternal Salvation yet continue to disobey Him, are the ones who do not know the Truth, nor do they believe Scriptures which plainly teach Eternal Salvation is unto them that OBEY, woe to them who do not obey Him still thinking they have Eternal Salvation because that is what man interprets the Scriptures to mean, Yet Scriptures do not teach that at all.
Have you not read in Scriptures over and over and over, that those who Truly Love Jesus keep His Commandments, They do NOT break His Commandments. What are His Commandments? Do not listen to what men teach His Commandments are, listen to the Bible which PLAINLY tells us what His Commandments are.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should 1) BELIEVE (Faith) on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and 2) LOVE ONE ANOTHER (Works), as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. (Who does Jesus dwell in according to the Word of God, the Inspired Word of God? Those who KEEP His Commandments) And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Woe to this generation which believes doctrines of men, they believe the Interpretations of men, which interprets the Bible to mean Eternal Salvation is unto those who accept Jesus Christ and it does not matter if you OBEY Him or not Obey Him, you are still SAVED, false doctrines, which the Scriptures does not teach, only the interpretations of men teach that doctrine. SCRIPTURES teach Eternal Salvation is unto them that OBEY JESUS, and JESUS Commands us to LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Those who claim to have Eternal Salvation and do NOT Love One Another, are they that do not know the Truth nor will they be taken When Jesus Returns, these all will be weeping and gnashing their teeth, because they though ignorance believed OSAS, which the Scriptures DO NOT TEACH. They will be left behind, and it is not like God did not try to warn them, for God has sent me and many others to teach against the false doctrine OSAS. Have they gone to the Scriptures to search if what we say is TRUE or NOT? No they haven't because they do not want to know the Truth, they want to believe as they do, and therefore do not search the Scriptures to see if the things i teach is the Truth or not, NO what i teach is contrary to what you believe, therefore you will not search the Scriptures to see if what i say is Truth or not, there is no excuse for those who are left behind, even though they thought with all their hearts they were going to get taken, ONLY a few has found that narrow and difficult path that leads to everlasting life, and the MANY will not listen to the FEW who know the Truth, the Many will continue on the path of living in their sins (obeying satan) and still think they are Heaven Bound, because they hold on to with their lives the doctrine of OSAS and will not let go of it no matter who tries to tell them otherwise, and you know what, it will cost them just that, their lives. i have told you the Truth, i have testified that what i teach God has told me, my hands are clean of your blood those who believe OSAS, which is a lie satan started in order to KEEP people sinning, to KEEP them in bondage to sin all the while thinking they are Heaven bound. So you go ahead and THINK you have Eternal Salvation, but know this, the SCRIPTURES do not lie, and the Scriptures plainly teach WHO Eternal Salvation is for, and it is to them that OBEY JESUS, to them that LOVE ONE ANOTHER. i have told you the Truth, search the Scriptures to see if what i say is True or not, Wait forgot what generation i am talking too, you already know the Truth, therefore it is on me to PROVE you wrong, right? WRONG. God told me i am not called to convince people of the Truth, i am called to reveal the Truths which He told me to reveal to a generation that will altogether ignore it, or scroll down and not read it. What i am called to do, says God to me, is to reveal the Truth to you, so you will not be able to plead ignorance on Judgment Day. i have told you the Truth, God has revealed the Truth to you, via through His servant.
Eternal Salvation is unto the that OBEY Jesus. Do i say and teach that, or does Scriptures teach that?
This Generation teaches that they have Eternal Salvation, even though they do not obey Jesus ALL the time, they are deceived and do not know the Truth. Jesus testifies Himself that a persons name can be blotted out of the Book of Life. That means a persons name that IS written in the Book of Life (SAVED) Can be removed. it would be in your best interest, because your eternal life is at stake here, that you search the Scriptures to find out the Truth concerning this matter, if you do, you are wise. But if you continue to merely believe you know the Truth and need not search the Scriptures, you are unwise, and there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth when MANY people who thought they were SAVED, will not be taken up with Him, Remember the Words of our Lord.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? (Go to Church all the time, Are we not under your Blood, Are we not SAVED by GRACE, Are we not ALWAYS SAVED)
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, (you that continue to live in sin) ye that work iniquity.
Woe indeed.
^i^ Responding to Post #924
Strange, you say for those who put their TRUST in Him, SCRIPTURES teach this:
Act_5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that OBEY HIM.
Heb_5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that OBEY HIM;
Please note, it does not say to those who TRUST Him, that is what OSAS teaches, those who TRUST Him, in His Works will remain SAVED forever, and have Eternal Salvation. This is a doctrine of man, not SCRIPTURES.
Am i then wrong to say, believe Scriptures and not what men teach? Scriptures teach the Holy Ghost is given to them that OBEY Jesus. Scriptures teach that Eternal Salvation is given to them that OBEY Jesus. Simple that children could understand this Truth. But this generation spits out the Truth, does not want to hear it, this generation wants to believe OSAS because that is the EASY PATH, could it get any easier to get to Heaven then to believe OSAS. That there is nothing you can do to lose it? HOW easy is that, MANY will WANT to do that path, just believe in Jesus repent whenever you obey satan and commit sin, and your still Heaven Bound, EASY, EASY, EASY. The Book Cost of Discipleship calls that false teaching "Easy Christianity" But go ahead and believe the OSAS doctrine, its not like God has not tried reveal to you otherwise. Stay on the EASY Path you THINK leads to life everlasting, don't search the Scriptures to MAKE SURE you are on the right path, why would you do that, you think you are already on the right path. i have told you the Truth, and have the authority from God to teach it. Else let my children die a long horrible death, and burn in Hell for all Eternity, not only them but all those that love me, and that i love let them all die horribly and burn in Hell for all Eternity, and let myself also die a long horrible painful death and then end up in Hell for all eternity, if i am lying. And as Rev 21:8 is clear, All LIARS shall burn in the lake of fire and brimstone, if then i am lying then let the Word of God be True and i burn in the lake of fire and brimstone for all eternity.
Tell me Scriptures teach all liars will burn in the lake of fire and brimstone. Doesn't OSAS claim they are Heaven bound even though they are liars? One who continues to lie is a liar. So all of you continue to believe OSAS and also continue to lie, and see if on Judgment Day you are not judged to be a LIAR, and will not enter into Heaven.
Got to go, microwave has been beeping done for a while now.
^i^ Responding to Post #929
Act_5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that OBEY HIM.
Heb_5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that OBEY HIM;
Please note, it does not say to those who TRUST Him, that is what OSAS teaches, those who TRUST Him, in His Works will remain SAVED forever, and have Eternal Salvation. This is a doctrine of man, not SCRIPTURES.
Am i then wrong to say, believe Scriptures and not what men teach? Scriptures teach the Holy Ghost is given to them that OBEY Jesus. Scriptures teach that Eternal Salvation is given to them that OBEY Jesus. Simple that children could understand this Truth. But this generation spits out the Truth, does not want to hear it, this generation wants to believe OSAS because that is the EASY PATH, could it get any easier to get to Heaven then to believe OSAS. That there is nothing you can do to lose it? HOW easy is that, MANY will WANT to do that path, just believe in Jesus repent whenever you obey satan and commit sin, and your still Heaven Bound, EASY, EASY, EASY. The Book Cost of Discipleship calls that false teaching "Easy Christianity" But go ahead and believe the OSAS doctrine, its not like God has not tried reveal to you otherwise. Stay on the EASY Path you THINK leads to life everlasting, don't search the Scriptures to MAKE SURE you are on the right path, why would you do that, you think you are already on the right path. i have told you the Truth, and have the authority from God to teach it. Else let my children die a long horrible death, and burn in Hell for all Eternity, not only them but all those that love me, and that i love let them all die horribly and burn in Hell for all Eternity, and let myself also die a long horrible painful death and then end up in Hell for all eternity, if i am lying. And as Rev 21:8 is clear, All LIARS shall burn in the lake of fire and brimstone, if then i am lying then let the Word of God be True and i burn in the lake of fire and brimstone for all eternity.
Tell me Scriptures teach all liars will burn in the lake of fire and brimstone. Doesn't OSAS claim they are Heaven bound even though they are liars? One who continues to lie is a liar. So all of you continue to believe OSAS and also continue to lie, and see if on Judgment Day you are not judged to be a LIAR, and will not enter into Heaven.
Got to go, microwave has been beeping done for a while now.
^i^ Responding to Post #929
Yeah...it also states that it is given unto those who BELIEVE in HIS NAME...as well as those who BELIEVE that God has raised him from the dead and you know...what good works did the thief on the cross do...or how exactly did he OBEY Christ in anything....he was being put to death for being a thief and but acknowledged the Lordship of JESUS, the punishment he deserved (the thief) and the innocence of JESUS......
True. What then are we to pick and choose which one we will do and believe, or is the Truth we must do and believe them all? So then Believe in His Name ONLY, is not enough, you must also do all the other things the Bible says to do for Eternal Salvation, you must also believe Jesus was raised from the dead, you must also obey Him in order to have Eternal Salvation. What then. Can i pick only one of them, believe and do that, and be SAVED? OR is the Truth, a person must comply and believe all those things? yeah, that is the Truth. You see OSAS people believe they have Eternal Salvation yet do not HAVE to obey Him in order to have it. They just believe in the one requirement of many, that you must believe on His Name, BAM SAVED forever. They know not the Truth, Anyone who believes one verse, while ignoring, or explaining away, or interpreting away other verses, does not know the Truth. The Truth is only given to those who BELIEVE ALL verses.
All that you say above is true. But one thing the thief did not do, which typical Christians of today do, is the thief after acknowledging the Lordship of Jesus, did not knowingly and willingly commit any sin of any kind, now did he?
And Works are not required for one to be Saved. But once saved, we are to LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Can you say the thief on the cross did NOT Love one another after acknowledging the Lordship of Jesus?
And let us be real here. We do not know the heart of that thief, what his life was like, why he stole, maybe he stole food for his family and the Romans wanted to make an example of him and crucified him. Do you know what was in the thief's heart? Does Scriptures teach us anything about the life of the thief? NO. Jesus is God, Jesus would have already have known the heart of the thief to his left and to his right. Maybe just maybe that God knew the good works of the thief, knew his heart was good and pure. Is Jesus required to inform to us the conditions of the thief's heart? No, very little is said about the thief and what he believed, or even what crimes he had committed, except that he was a thief.
My point is, The Lord Jesus would have known his heart, even before he acknowledged the Lordship of Jesus. Is there any record of the thief, confessing his sins? Is there any record of the thief repenting, except to say they deserve what was happening to them? Is there any record that the thief even knew Jesus name? Did the thief ask to be Saved or remembered? So apparently Jesus knew more about that particular man than what is revealed to us. God does not see men, he sees our heart. Jesus saw the heart of the thief. And He knew He Truly believed. And True even though he had no works to show his LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER, the Son of God would have known all that he would have done if he were allowed to live, and therefore knew he would LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
You are right in saying he did not obey Christ in anything, (Except Jesus would have known if he would or would not have) Is it not written that the Holy Ghost is given to those who obey Jesus. The thief did not obey Jesus in anything, is there any Scriptures that teach the thief received the Holy Ghost? The answer is no. Why? Because he did not obey Jesus in anything as you correctly pointed out. Because Scriptures are True and can't be broken. The Holy Ghost is given to them that Obey Jesus. The thief did not obey Jesus in anything, therefore there is no testimony that the thief received the Holy Ghost when he acknowledged the Lordship of Jesus.
^i^ Responding to Post # 934
All that you say above is true. But one thing the thief did not do, which typical Christians of today do, is the thief after acknowledging the Lordship of Jesus, did not knowingly and willingly commit any sin of any kind, now did he?
And Works are not required for one to be Saved. But once saved, we are to LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Can you say the thief on the cross did NOT Love one another after acknowledging the Lordship of Jesus?
And let us be real here. We do not know the heart of that thief, what his life was like, why he stole, maybe he stole food for his family and the Romans wanted to make an example of him and crucified him. Do you know what was in the thief's heart? Does Scriptures teach us anything about the life of the thief? NO. Jesus is God, Jesus would have already have known the heart of the thief to his left and to his right. Maybe just maybe that God knew the good works of the thief, knew his heart was good and pure. Is Jesus required to inform to us the conditions of the thief's heart? No, very little is said about the thief and what he believed, or even what crimes he had committed, except that he was a thief.
My point is, The Lord Jesus would have known his heart, even before he acknowledged the Lordship of Jesus. Is there any record of the thief, confessing his sins? Is there any record of the thief repenting, except to say they deserve what was happening to them? Is there any record that the thief even knew Jesus name? Did the thief ask to be Saved or remembered? So apparently Jesus knew more about that particular man than what is revealed to us. God does not see men, he sees our heart. Jesus saw the heart of the thief. And He knew He Truly believed. And True even though he had no works to show his LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER, the Son of God would have known all that he would have done if he were allowed to live, and therefore knew he would LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
You are right in saying he did not obey Christ in anything, (Except Jesus would have known if he would or would not have) Is it not written that the Holy Ghost is given to those who obey Jesus. The thief did not obey Jesus in anything, is there any Scriptures that teach the thief received the Holy Ghost? The answer is no. Why? Because he did not obey Jesus in anything as you correctly pointed out. Because Scriptures are True and can't be broken. The Holy Ghost is given to them that Obey Jesus. The thief did not obey Jesus in anything, therefore there is no testimony that the thief received the Holy Ghost when he acknowledged the Lordship of Jesus.
^i^ Responding to Post # 934
i do appoligize for my ingnorance, but i do not understand what you are saying above. Responding to what guys? Who are you referring to? i don't respond to anyone, i only respond to what someone says, half the time, i do not even know to whom it is that is saying it, i merely respond to statements people make, regardless the belief of those people or who they are.
Also you say "Go get 'em, buddy." This also i do not understand. i am not after anyone, nor is it my desire to attack or get anyone at all. i merely teach what God told me teach. Now granted sometimes it may appear that i am attacking, but i assure you that is not what i am doing, i may get a little stern, but that is because my LOVE for all is great, and i do weep some nights because of all the Christians who believe false doctrines, and refuse to hear the Words the Lord told me to tell them. i have sat in my car at walmart and cried for people, because they are so oblivious to the Truth, and they do not know what is coming. Death, Destruction, Acts of God abundant. i cry because Christians of today have not learned to HATE sin. They call Jesus their Master and Lord, yet willingly obey satan and commit sins, and they do not see what is wrong with that picture, they do not understand that Jesus cries for them, the Holy Ghost continually convicts them of their sinful behaviors, and the Spirit cries to when they choose not to obey the prompting of the Holy Ghost that they should not being doing that. Jesus cries for them because those who claim to worship and serve Him are freely choosing to obey His enemy, He cries for them because these do NOT seek His help, so NOT seek His Power to overcome those temptation. He cries because they love to sin. Anyone who knowingly and willingly commits sin, knowing it is sinful and evil, but does it anyway, tell me how they do not love to sin. NOBODY commits sins they HATE to do. He and i cry a lot for this generation.
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Also you say "Go get 'em, buddy." This also i do not understand. i am not after anyone, nor is it my desire to attack or get anyone at all. i merely teach what God told me teach. Now granted sometimes it may appear that i am attacking, but i assure you that is not what i am doing, i may get a little stern, but that is because my LOVE for all is great, and i do weep some nights because of all the Christians who believe false doctrines, and refuse to hear the Words the Lord told me to tell them. i have sat in my car at walmart and cried for people, because they are so oblivious to the Truth, and they do not know what is coming. Death, Destruction, Acts of God abundant. i cry because Christians of today have not learned to HATE sin. They call Jesus their Master and Lord, yet willingly obey satan and commit sins, and they do not see what is wrong with that picture, they do not understand that Jesus cries for them, the Holy Ghost continually convicts them of their sinful behaviors, and the Spirit cries to when they choose not to obey the prompting of the Holy Ghost that they should not being doing that. Jesus cries for them because those who claim to worship and serve Him are freely choosing to obey His enemy, He cries for them because these do NOT seek His help, so NOT seek His Power to overcome those temptation. He cries because they love to sin. Anyone who knowingly and willingly commits sin, knowing it is sinful and evil, but does it anyway, tell me how they do not love to sin. NOBODY commits sins they HATE to do. He and i cry a lot for this generation.
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i went four pages back, i could find nothing, i went five, still nothing, sorry could you please tell me the post where i called anyone a liar. i assure you, you are mistaken, i would never call any particular person a liar, that is name calling, and it would displease the Lord Jesus for me to do so. Now more then likely i said those who believe OSAS believe a lie, but i have never said they are LIARS, if i said such a wicked thing, i would be in need of repenting for it. Therefore please show me the post where i have done this wicked thing you accuse me of, so i can see for myself if i have done that thing. and if so, i will repent of it, and apologize to those that i said such to. Help me brother, tell me which post i did that, so i can repent of it, if i have done so as you accuse me.
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I would think, all you would have to do is ask them to make it simple enough for you to understand what they are saying.
You make the simple and stupid sound righteous, and the intelligent wicked.
Unlike yourself, I'm sure, many have biases, are hard hearted, are laden with sins, and cannot see some truths because the Spirit of truth isn't in them to reveal it, but rather have the spirit of error.
This would apply to both the simple and the intelligent.
It a matter of the condition of the heart, not the head.
You make the simple and stupid sound righteous, and the intelligent wicked.
Unlike yourself, I'm sure, many have biases, are hard hearted, are laden with sins, and cannot see some truths because the Spirit of truth isn't in them to reveal it, but rather have the spirit of error.
This would apply to both the simple and the intelligent.
It a matter of the condition of the heart, not the head.