Is Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) a total joke?

[RachelBibleStudent]

Let me ask you a few questions:

1. Is Henry Morris considered to be the father of the modern YEC movement?

2. Did Henry Morris get much of his flood geology from George McCready Price?

3. Was George McCready Price's flood geology heavily influenced by Ellen G. White?

your logic is seriously subpar here...maybe an example will help...

in high school i took calculus... now suppose i taught some calculus to a bunch of people here on this site...

would you then claim that everyone on christian chat 'got their calculus from' my high school teacher?

no...because that line of reasoning...the one you have been using here...is absurd...

 

[JackH]

your logic is seriously subpar here...maybe an example will help...

in high school i took calculus... now suppose i taught some calculus to a bunch of people here on this site...

would you then claim that everyone on christian chat 'got their calculus from' my high school teacher?

no...because that line of reasoning...the one you have been using here...is absurd...

You are in YEC denial about this issue.

From the Wikipedia article on George McCready Price:

Price's ideas were borrowed again in the early 1960s by Henry M. Morris and John Whitcomb in their book The Genesis Flood, a work that skeptic Martin Gardner calls "the most significant attack on evolution...since the Scopes trial". Morris, in his 1984 book History of Modern Creationism, spoke glowingly of Price's logic and writing style, and referred to reading The New Geology as "a life-changing experience for me".[SUP][22][/SUP]

 

[jamie26301]

Friend because you say or someone else says "considered to be" or this person says this or that? It don't matter...the bible is correct! Its a matter of faith not what men said or mans logic.

I still don't understand how faith and science are synomous and one in the same. What's the point in proving Genesis when what ultimately matters (the Ressurection) can in no way be proven by evidence?

Are there not plenty of tares in the Church who believe the precious, literal doctrine but have no real faith inside them, but instead dead men's bones? A confession of doctrine, even the Ressurection, is no certain indictor of faith. Anyone can recite anything. Why is the ultimate goal, it seems, to get someone to say "yes, this is inerrant and literal." Some people "confess" things just to get the other to shut up.

Let's say an unbeliever says "yeah the Earth is 6000 years old, the Flood happened, and all this." Then what? The Bible is reliable, they believe now." Yes, then they set foot in churches and learn all the other divions and controversies that are things that can't be proven one way or the other, and so THEY STILL are left with "what does this mean? How can I fit this in my faith? How does this not conflict with another verse? I don't understand. It doesn't sound logical." And here you have convinced them to give faith a chance because it is entirely reasonable - you convinced them to read the Bible because it can be supported by REASON and observable things.

I'm not saying don't talk about it. But I wouldn't be dogmatic about it, if you are more concerned with someone sincerely considering the Scriptures, rather than just being right. Because even if they submit, there will be another theological challenge right around the corner, and one far more tougher to answer - seeing how theologians annd philosophers have been seeking the answers for thousands of years to no concrete avail (they disagree).

You see, the journey is never-ending, yet some Christians argue as if they can present the right argument and seal a person's soul by convincing them to come to Christ. I do not believe the Holy Spirit works that way. Imo, He works through more than just the words of the NT. He was sent, according to the Gospel, to them before Paul even penned his letters.

If you are witnessing, in my opinion, it is best not to present the Scriptures as a book that can be completely "figured out." It can't.

 

[valiant]

Yeah, Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind) believes Nessie is a dinosaur.

Sooooooo? Many people agree with him.

Who reliably described it?

People who saw it and described accurately a genuine dinosaur.

I read in a book about a drunk Irish midget talking about it.

yes I gathered that was your kind of book.

I'll have to go find the book.

be my guest. you'll be able to catch up on your science

 

[Mitspa]

I still don't understand how faith and science are synomous and one in the same. What's the point in proving Genesis when what ultimately matters (the Ressurection) can in no way be proven by evidence?

Are there not plenty of tares in the Church who believe the precious, literal doctrine but have no real faith inside them, but instead dead men's bones? A confession of doctrine, even the Ressurection, is no certain indictor of faith. Anyone can recite anything. Why is the ultimate goal, it seems, to get someone to say "yes, this is inerrant and literal." Some people "confess" things just to get the other to shut up.

Let's say an unbeliever says "yeah the Earth is 6000 years old, the Flood happened, and all this." Then what? The Bible is reliable, they believe now." Yes, then they set foot in churches and learn all the other divions and controversies that are things that can't be proven one way or the other, and so THEY STILL are left with "what does this mean? How can I fit this in my faith? How does this not conflict with another verse? I don't understand. It doesn't sound logical." And here you have convinced them to give faith a chance because it is entirely reasonable - you convinced them to read the Bible because it can be supported by REASON and observable things.

I'm not saying don't talk about it. But I wouldn't be dogmatic about it, if you are more concerned with someone sincerely considering the Scriptures, rather than just being right. Because even if they submit, there will be another theological challenge right around the corner, and one far more tougher to answer - seeing how theologians annd philosophers have been seeking the answers for thousands of years to no concrete avail (they disagree).

You see, the journey is never-ending, yet some Christians argue as if they can present the right argument and seal a person's soul by convincing them to come to Christ. I do not believe the Holy Spirit works that way. Imo, He works through more than just the words of the NT. He was sent, according to the Gospel, to them before Paul even penned his letters.

If you are witnessing, in my opinion, it is best not to present the Scriptures as a book that can be completely "figured out." It can't.

The very core of the true faith is that we must trust Gods Word, even when it don't make sense to the natural mind...even when it takes time to figure things out about what was said and how God said it. Witnessing is a matter of the Holy Spirit working in people who have confidence in Gods word and understand the weaknesses of men.

 

[valiant]

The very core of the true faith is that we must trust Gods Word, even when it don't make sense to the natural mind...even when it takes time to figure things out about what was said and how God said it. Witnessing is a matter of the Holy Spirit working in people who have confidence in Gods word and understand the weaknesses of men.

True that we must believe God's word. What we are not required to do however is accept the views of the natural mind (although of course claiming special illumination) about what God MEANT.

Americans interpret God's word one way. Oriental minds (whose thought processes are closer to those of the original authors) interpret it in another way. Who is to say which is right?

 

[JackH]

Sooooooo? Many people agree with him.



People who saw it and described accurately a genuine dinosaur.



yes I gathered that was your kind of book.



be my guest. you'll be able to catch up on your science

Who agrees with Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind)?

Names please.

And on what, specifically, do they agree with Dr. Dino about?

That the U.S. government was responsible for 9/11 and the Oklahoma City bombing?

I need to do a credibility check on these people.

I found the book.

Yes, it's full of good science, like dinosaur fossils are millions of years old.

I was right. A drunk Irish midget attributes the Loch Ness monster to Saint Columba.

So YECs can thank Catholics (you know, the ones they bash relentlessly on the Catholic Heresy thread) for proof that dinosaurs are around even today, like Dr. Dino has said.

 

[JackH]

I love Kent Hovind. His seminars are very informative

I love Dr. Dino too.

If I don't say that I will be banned.

 

[JackH]

Try Nestles Greek text. It will even show you the possible variances. And it is 99 % accurate

Does it contain the Old Testament?

 

[Mitspa]

True that we must believe God's word. What we are not required to do however is accept the views of the natural mind (although of course claiming special illumination) about what God MEANT.

Americans interpret God's word one way. Oriental minds (whose thought processes are closer to those of the original authors) interpret it in another way. Who is to say which is right?

You know, its ok if I don't know certain things like how God created all things in 6 days...whether those days was periods of time or whatever..it don't matter to me. Gods Word records the truth and I can seek the issues that bring light to His truth...I can study the history of the eastern mindset and the traditions that help me understand. I can study how the scriptures was preserved and try to understand the original languages ....but what remains is that God always tells the truth and we have an amazing record of that truth.

 

[JackH]

kent hovind has stood up for the truth, and the gates of hell are furious against him, just as jesus says.

I'm speechless.

 

[JackH]

Some pictures are worth a thousand words.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

"God created ALL ANIMALS within the 7 days of creation. This includes dinosaurs. God told Noah to build an ark and take two of every kind. Dinosaurs came on the ark. In fact, live dinosaurs have been found within the past 200 years." -Kent Hovind

[video=youtube;kRxI2sDRc4U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRxI2sDRc4U[/video]

Some pictures are worth a thousand words.

 

[jamie26301]

"God created ALL ANIMALS within the 7 days of creation. This includes dinosaurs. God told Noah to build an ark and take two of every kind. Dinosaurs came on the ark. In fact, live dinosaurs have been found within the past 200 years." -Kent Hovind

[video=youtube;kRxI2sDRc4U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRxI2sDRc4U[/video]

But, wasn't Creation, like the actual creating, six days and not seven? He knows that right?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

How dare you question Dr. Dino! Dr. Dino said seven so seven it is and if you don't accept that on faith then you are being disobedient to God's Word (according to Dr. Dino).

Now go look at that picture of Jesus cradling a baby Tyrannosaurs Rex and remember that Jesus loves the little dinosaurs, all the little dinosaurs of the world including those pesky ones presently hiding out from humans like Nessie.

But, wasn't Creation, like the actual creating, six days and not seven? He knows that right?

 

[Mitspa]

Look as messed up as Hovind is, he is not dumb enough to believe that nothing blew up and made everything, or that we are all just moneys who developed a desire to wear underwear.

 

[JackH]

Look as messed up as Hovind is, he is not dumb enough to believe that nothing blew up and made everything, or that we are all just moneys who developed a desire to wear underwear.

Floyd Mayweather is Money and wears underwear in the ring to make money.

Which prompts me to ask, since you are the expert on the subject:

Do you think Neanderthal man is fully human, or not human, or what exactly?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Kent Hovind's creation science is "messed up" (e.g. faulty) to the point of dismal failure. However, he does consistently and accurately present the gospel of Jesus Christ (along with his faulty creation science).

There is no doubt that many people come to a saving knowledge of the gospel of Jesus Christ and are spiritually regenerated by the Holy Spirit as new creatures in Christ when this happens.

"What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed; and in this I rejoice. Yes, and I will rejoice." -Philippians 1:18.

I have no axe to grind with Kent and am prepared to keep the baby but throw out the bathwater. This does not mean; however, that I will not lmao at his antics for he thoroughly entertains me.

By the way, Ken said he will be throwing a barbecue when he is released from prison and everyone's invited: The Juror Who Freed Kent Hovind Steps Forward

Look as messed up as Hovind is, he is not dumb enough to believe that nothing blew up and made everything, or that we are all just moneys who developed a desire to wear underwear.

 

[popeye]

your logic is seriously subpar here...maybe an example will help...

in high school i took calculus... now suppose i taught some calculus to a bunch of people here on this site...

would you then claim that everyone on christian chat 'got their calculus from' my high school teacher?

no...because that line of reasoning...the one you have been using here...is absurd...

When rachel writes her auto biography she willl title one of the chapters "The day I took Jack to school"

 

[Tintin]

When rachel writes her auto biography she willl title one of the chapters "The day I took Jack to school"

"Jack and His Bean-stalk: A Tale of Two Worldviews".