Homosexuality is not a choice!!!!

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Its not. People are born a sexuality. No one can choose to just be attracted to a certain gender.
If it's not a choice, then why does a practicing homosexual have a reprobate mind? Romans chapter 1.

Instead of addressing the actions of a homo, why not discuss what causes a reprobate mind that embarrasses homosexuality? This thread IMO is like taking a pill to ease the pain without addressing the cause for the pain.
 
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AllanSnackbar

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Every argument u can make for homosexuals you can also make the same arguments for pedophiles.
Except maybe paedophilia involves illegally forcing your self onto an innocent child and homosexuality is perfectly legal and consensual on both sides?

Don't equate the two. Your only diminishing the horror of child abuse if your putting it in the same box as a legal act involving 2 consenting adults.
 

Budman

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Ok Mr oldhermit why don't you prove the proven tests wrong and be gay? Since you said you can choose then do it. Prove me and many other people wrong.

I see you are an admirer of sodomite and Christian hater Dan Savage.
 
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Tankman131

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I see you are an admirer of sodomite and Christian hater Dan Savage.
Lol yeah i thought the same thing. Nevermind it has already been shown with homosexuals choosing not to be homosexuals anymore.
 
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Tankman131

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Except maybe paedophilia involves illegally forcing your self onto an innocent child and homosexuality is perfectly legal and consensual on both sides?

Don't equate the two. Your only diminishing the horror of child abuse if your putting it in the same box as a legal act involving 2 consenting adults.
While i agree that the two dont need to be equated, his point isnt false. The arguments for homosexuality are like madlibs for any moral issue.

Also, homosexuality used to be illegal so the status of a law does not affect similarities between things.
 

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By the way, I don't think all homosexuals are "born" that way. I think that is probably the minority. Although we were certainly created to be man with woman, since the Fall, bad things have entered into our genetics. God in no way created Adam and Eve this way, but since the flood, we have been devolving genetically.

Just as God did not create humanity with the disease I have - a genetic autoimmune disease - somewhere along the line, the mutated gene entered my family tree on my father's side, and now I pay the consequences for that. One day, when Jesus returns, I will have a new body free from pain.

When I was in university taking first year psychology 40 years ago, there was some interesting studies done on overcrowding of rats. Although the strain of rats showed no deviant tendencies when given enough room and food, when they were overcrowded, dominant males took over the colony, and hoarded the food and the females. That left the less dominant males to turn to homosexual behaviours.

I bet they don't teach that any more in university. The fact is, it was replicated over and over in rat studies. Which is not to say we are rats, but I often wonder how living in a overcrowded city environment warps people. I lived in the west end of Vancouver in the early 70's. It has the highest density in North America west of Manhattan. There were gay clubs everywhere, although I had never seen one anywhere else. Overcrowding of humans?? Or just being attracted to a place where people didn't care about lifestyle choices?
 

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If homosexuality wasn't a choice there would be some scientific evidence for it.

There is none. Zero. Zip. Nada.

The entire human genome has been mapped and there is no "gay gene." If it were genetic in any way, one identical twin born homosexual would necessitate the other be born homosexual as well - in every case. But, of course, it doesn't happen.

Those who claim it is hormonal are also at a loss, as there is no credible evidence it has anything to do with hormones during gestation.

All evidence points to environmental and psychological factors. It is a sub-conscience or conscience choice.

An interesting fact: There are more people in the world who are ex-homosexuals then there are current homosexuals.
 
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I mean if you want to get technical then you should know that women are lower class then men and that a rapist can pay the raped girls father to keep her...
And here we go....again. To prove their lifestyle is right they jump into the Bible,twist a few Scriptures that they have no understanding of and say "see Im right"! :rolleyes:
 
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I think your born a certain way, some people are attracted the the opposite sex, some are attracted to the same sex(homosexual). However it's your choice whether or not you act on your desires. Just as straight people can choose to wait until marriage to have sex, homosexuals can also choose to act or to ignore the lusts they have. God made people the way they are for a reason, maybe if your gay you were born that way because God wanted you to learn something in this life.
Now I understand how in today's society the use of homosexuality and now with this Bruce Jenner and transsexualism, is being used to corrupt today's youth into thinking that all of this sickness is "natural", I also find pushing this homosexual agenda on children disgusting. However I also find the over sexualazation of children to be just sickening as the homosexual agenda being pushed on our youth. The media is pushing these sexual ideas on children as young as ten. People wonder why our culture is corrupted and going downhill, it's because of a combination of people pushing sexuality to younger and younger crowds.
if you look at the television in media today vs the television and media of the past (40s, 50s, 60s, 70s) you can plainly see these sexual ideas being pushed heavily. It use to be tv shows would be family oriented, but today it's totally about sex and sin. Just watch any tv show or movie today and I can almost guarantee that you will see some kind of sex scene or something inappropriate teaching our youth that you need someone else to make you happy, instead of following God and having faith in him to make you happy.
(I won't go into the benefits of marriage for procreation vs gay marriage which I am against)
Basically I try to treat people the way I would want to be treated. I understand that being gay is not a choice, however choosing to act on your desires is a choice, you can choose to be celibate. But that doesn't mean you have to be alone for your entire life. If I were gay this is the way I would want people to look at things in a religious context.
 
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Its not. People are born a sexuality. No one can choose to just be attracted to a certain gender.
Yeah, for many, if not most, it is a spiritually perilous choice. But for those who didn't choose it, it is a demonic spirit that has been allowed to take over...and it could have happened in childhood, due to a trauma of some sort, or some parental neglect or abuse. Either way, it is a demonic stronghold, and it can be cast out in the strong name of Jesus Christ.
 
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kaylagrl

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See this is why most people don't talk or are involved with Christians. They base all their life and feelings towards an imaginary person. And then you act like those who don't agree are trollths.

Soooo if we're all so stupid,why are you here? To convert people? Not likely. I think you need to find a chat site that agrees with you 100% rather than trying to argue with people here.
 
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I agree with the OP. You don't choose who you fall in love with.

you do choose what you do with the feelings though, just like all other people
Yes, you choose who you love. "Falling in love" is a misnomer.
 
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kaylagrl

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Because you want to say that people should base their life and disregard their true feelings just to make this imaginary person happy.

What is it to you what people here believe? Free country last time I checked.If we're all believing fairy tales what is that to you? Live and let live,tolerance,coexsist all that junk.Or does it only go one way? Like we all have to agree with you? hummm
 
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To me its wrong to hide your feelings and be ashamed because of religion. Put yourself before god. Would you rather accept yourself or be miserable pretending to be straight. And tbh who would choose to hated and discriminated?
Ah, but to God, it is wrong to NOT deal with your feelings, overrule them and place them in subjection to the word of God.

Pretending to be straight? Far too many sinners pretend to be Christians. Way too much pretense goin' on!

As for your last comment, it is a known pattern that people who are in a subversive minority LOVE to be harassed about it because they can band together and declare themselves hard done by. It gives them a false sense of legitimacy and comradeship.
 
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Being gay is not a choice. I for one can confirm this. I never choose to be gay. I held it in for years before coming out. Tbh idk where people think its an abomination.
We KNOW it because it is an abomination to our Father.
 
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I mean if you want to get technical then you should know that women are lower class then men and that a rapist can pay the raped girls father to keep her...
And you think this because? You have no clue about the word of God, so don't even TRY to bring it to bear on this sin issue. I'll have you for lunch if you do.
 
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Originally Posted by PinkieKleenlolz

Because you want to say that people should base their life and disregard their true feelings just to make this imaginary person happy.

What is it to you what people here believe? Free country last time I checked.If we're all believing fairy tales what is that to you? Live and let live,tolerance,coexsist all that junk.Or does it only go one way? Like we all have to agree with you? hummm

YIKES!!
 
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I'm glad at least somebody gives a true answer with love in it instead of only judgement.
Ahhh arent you judging there? People are defending the Bible and the OP is here to raise trouble,thats obvious. The Bible says mark those that cause dissension and stay away from them. The OP wants to defend homosexuality and call us names for not agreeing with them.That is not what this site is about. This person will be banned soon.They dont want to discuss they want to kick at Christians,they arent looking for an answer,they are looking to be right.
 

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Everything we do is a choice, whether we have a predisposition to do it or not.
 
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phil112

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Its not. People are born a sexuality. No one can choose to just be attracted to a certain gender.
You don't understand the definition of "choice".
It is a decision you make. I am called an alcoholic. That's manure. I made a decision to pick that drink of alcohol up and put it to my lips.
Until you are able to withstand strong meat, I would urge you not to come on any board and declare things for fact that, not only you don't know about, but that aren't truth.
 
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