Joyce Meyer -- False Teacher

[kennethcadwell]

Did God kill Ananias and saphira for lying...how much more do you think He would and will destroy these people who rape babies in the Name of the Lord....in this matter, you are far from the heart of God Kenneth

Come on now when they do these things it is not in the name of the Lord, so don't even put Him into the equation when one commits a sin.........

Second all sin is forgivable if one repents of it.........

The only sin that is not forgivable is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit;
It does not matter if a person has committed a murder, adultery, prostitution, pedophilia, rape, lie, or any other sin can be and will be forgiven if they repent/confess of it for forgiveness.

No I am not far from the heart of God, it is you who is doing this if you are going to constantly stick to this hate doctrine which is not of God. Also you are making sins that are forgivable and making them unforgivable, which would be you calling Jesus a liar................


Hate doctrine is not of God !!!

 

[FancyNancy]

You have amazing perseverance and patience dude. I dont have the time or patience to explain the truth like you are to false-teacher obsessed people.

I think you are obsessed with what you enjoy calling false teachers, who are truly anointed by God to do what they do. The root of this revulsion is really only envy.

 

[FancyNancy]

https://carm.org/joyce-meyer

The Teachings of Joyce Meyer - Christian Research Institute

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mkLNea55YLM

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi1bnxMrvXk

All bogus and rife with agenda.

 

[Willie-T]

I think you are obsessed with what you enjoy calling false teachers, who are truly anointed by God to do what they do. The root of this revulsion is really only envy.

Amen, amen, and AMEN!!!! (Little puppies nipping at ankles.)

 

[PeterJens]

The truth of the matter is this: A Christian needs to learn to accept himself the way God now sees him, or he will continue on in self-deprecation, referring to himself as "just a poor sinner saved by grace". That is false humility. Jesus died to give us His abundant life, and to make us conquerors over sin and to equip us with His ability to do the works of Christ in the world, as the true leaders in this world. True leaders don't consider themselves less than they are. They KNOW who they are and walk through life accordingly.

Know who you are in Christ and take up His standard in the battle.

I am not sure what you are saying here. We are true leaders in this world. Ok, you really think the church is to take on politics, civil government, the penal system. Or are you talking another agenda.

Jesus died to give us His abundant life. I agree with you, but what is your definition of abundancy. For me I see loving people from the heart, meeting needs, being a servant to help the widows and orphans of this world.

I suspect you are not talking about this, maybe a conquering army, a noble cause of a theocracy, with the church dominating the world. Funnily enough that is exactly what the roman church did and it did not end well. Or have you discovered a new way of being. Let us follow Benny, or Kenneth or Peter Wagner.

I am sorry other than a few phrases you have to come up with something better or it is just pipe dreams.
Now I have lived in christian community for a year and a half, and it is no different than any other community.

Maybe you are saying you are now perfect, without sin, entered into the estate of the elite, who will all show us how it is done. So go on, tell me more.

By the way I know who I am, I do not consider myself less than I am, and I walk through life accordingly a sinner save by grace. But you do not understand the term, it is not weak, it is the ultimate leaning on Jesus to empower and enrich us.
But I know the ethic of which you speak, and it is not of the Lord.

Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Eph 4:2


And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death— even death on a cross!
Phil 2:8


Believers in humble circumstances ought to take pride in their high position. James 1:9


Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up. James 4:10


All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, “God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble.” 1 Peter 5:5


Humble yourselves, therefore, under God’s mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time.
1 Peter 5:6

The phrase here is humble yourself before the Lord. That is not the feeling I get from your words.
DO YOU NOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE

You preach a different gospel with a different ethic. That is a serious problem, and your source of this change from the apostles teaching? Visions, angels, prophetic words maybe? SO heresy by a different name.

 

[Tankman131]

All bogus and rife with agenda.

And this is where you prove yourself a cultish follower of these false teachers. You arent even willing to look at biblical evidence.

Enjoy your unbiblical motivational speakers here on Earth because thats the only place they will help you.

 

[PeterJens]

I think you are obsessed with what you enjoy calling false teachers, who are truly anointed by God to do what they do. The root of this revulsion is really only envy.

Who are your truly anointed, and what is there teaching you so admire. I see greed wealth and heresy.
Or maybe I am just being christian about things, and actually I should leave the faith and join another one, which says power and domination work, zapping people into a drunken stupor is the way of God, claiming impossible things that are blatent lies is really upholding the truth.

Or are you capable of walking on water, but have not shown anyone because you are shy. I mean if non-believers saw that they would flock into churches, repent of their sins and start living holy lives, and not need to think about failure any more because it was all so abundant and victorious. The trouble is only those who smoke weed or snort cocain think like this, because it is so insane and wrong.

 

[Tankman131]

I think you are obsessed with what you enjoy calling false teachers, who are truly anointed by God to do what they do. The root of this revulsion is really only envy.

On the contrary, i feel pity for them. They have chosen a false god and will see hell if they dont repent and follow christ. I sm not envious of the hellbound false teachers.

 

[PeterJens]

Amen, amen, and AMEN!!!! (Little puppies nipping at ankles.)

There is a phrase used against me by muslims, barking dogs. Similarly they called love weak and empty, the dominant marching army of the faithful obedient slaves as victorious. They held up Islam and its creed as the only way to live and they were ISIS. A facist butchering bunch of psychopaths.

So be very careful, when the Lord who washes our feet becomes something very different and be careful when you mock the very foundation of who Jesus is and how he behaves because this is not following the Lord. Yes you will get glitz and massive meeting, the trappings of everything that seems good, but no content.

Jesus talked about faith in the secret room, prayer, forgiving, walking in meekness, righteousness, but never this group trip out, or rock show.

You talk envy and jealousy. The Lord rebuke you. I rejoice with those who rejoice and weep with those who weep, but what is happening and has been is a stain against His name and His gospel. This is no longer a faith, but a business, with massive costs and publicity, into which people are sucked for the idolatry of the show. But that has become the concept, only in the meeting is the Lord present, so the show is everything.

It also sounds like Joyce is like your high priest, so I will have to understand her teaching, as you hold it all in such high regard.

 

[PeterJens]

Joyce Meyer
“I’ve had enough bondage. I’ve had enough negative thoughts. I’ve had enough of the lies of the devil. I am not going to have any more bad days. I am not going to be discouraged, depressed, or despondent. I am going to enjoy my life!”

Now I understand the bondage of depression, being despondent, and discouraged, but the answer is not enjoying life.
The answer is in seeing the things you can do, valuing the contribution you do make and others do make. It is giving yourself space to learn, to get better, to remember who you are and what you stand for. A little child can hold a pen and draw. That is something fantastic, changing the world through creative action.

When someone says they are going to enjoy their life, it speaks to me of someone who is self condemning, and feels they cannot do things because there is a moral problem with these actions. If this is what she is addressing, again the problem is in why the person feels condemned, not just through it all off and do what you like, that is literally hedonism.

 

[Danacovert82]

Guys, Joyce is a false teacher. I know I was defending her. But not anymore. You guys have taught me that she's been saying she's sinless and she's not. I'm not. You're not. No ones sinless. Anyway, she's not sinless. That's the biggest thing that stuck out in my mind.

 

[ladylynn]

Joyce Meyer
“I’ve had enough bondage. I’ve had enough negative thoughts. I’ve had enough of the lies of the devil. I am not going to have any more bad days. I am not going to be discouraged, depressed, or despondent. I am going to enjoy my life!”

Now I understand the bondage of depression, being despondent, and discouraged, but the answer is not enjoying life.
The answer is in seeing the things you can do, valuing the contribution you do make and others do make. It is giving yourself space to learn, to get better, to remember who you are and what you stand for. A little child can hold a pen and draw. That is something fantastic, changing the world through creative action.

When someone says they are going to enjoy their life, it speaks to me of someone who is self condemning, and feels they cannot do things because there is a moral problem with these actions. If this is what she is addressing, again the problem is in why the person feels condemned, not just through it all off and do what you like, that is literally hedonism.

It's called "condemnation" and the enemy uses it skillfully on the Christian. Religion builds on it and Joyce was under it like so many other Christians. She decided to believe what God's word says and not what the enemy says. The Joy of the Lord is our strength., the love of God constrains us... perfect love casts out fear... There is therefore now NO condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus...

Joyce was under the bondage of the law. She was trying in her own strength to be righteous and instead she was more depressed. She finally realized the joy of the Lord was her strength., that she was not condemned but loved. She decided to enjoy her life in Christ and walk in the freedom Jesus paid for her to have here on earth as well as when she goes to be with Him in heaven. We have everything to be joyful about right now.

Peter., the answer IS enjoying your life because Jesus has redeemed and set us free from the law of sin and death. God no longer judges us based on our thoughts or actions, God judges us based on His Son. There is everything to be joyful about now!

Today the devil comes to torment the minds of believers and instead of claiming what Jesus has done, they receive the condemnation and live defeated lives. That is what Joyce is talking about. That is why so many people receive her preaching, because she is talking about Jesus and what He has secured for the believer.

 

[mwc68]

It's called "condemnation" and the enemy uses it skillfully on the Christian. Religion builds on it and Joyce was under it like so many other Christians. She decided to believe what God's word says and not what the enemy says. The Joy of the Lord is our strength., the love of God constrains us... perfect love casts out fear... There is therefore now NO condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus...

Joyce was under the bondage of the law. She was trying in her own strength to be righteous and instead she was more depressed. She finally realized the joy of the Lord was her strength., that she was not condemned but loved. She decided to enjoy her life in Christ and walk in the freedom Jesus paid for her to have here on earth as well as when she goes to be with Him in heaven. We have everything to be joyful about right now.

Peter., the answer IS enjoying your life because Jesus has redeemed and set us free from the law of sin and death. God no longer judges us based on our thoughts or actions, God judges us based on His Son. There is everything to be joyful about now!

Today the devil comes to torment the minds of believers and instead of claiming what Jesus has done, they receive the condemnation and live defeated lives. That is what Joyce is talking about. That is why so many people receive her preaching, because she is talking about Jesus and what He has secured for the believer.

So, according to this, i can smoke all the dope I want and be with as many women as i want?

 

[ladylynn]

So, according to this, i can smoke all the dope I want and be with as many women as i want?

No, according to this, you won't want too!

 

[ladylynn]

So, according to this, i can smoke all the dope I want and be with as many women as i want?

No, according to this, you won't want too! Titus 2:12 Grace teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts, to live soberly righteously and Godly in this present age..

 

[FancyNancy]

So, according to this, i can smoke all the dope I want and be with as many women as i want?

That's only what false converts think. They abuse God's grace, not having experienced it.

 

[FancyNancy]

Guys, Joyce is a false teacher. I know I was defending her. But not anymore. You guys have taught me that she's been saying she's sinless and she's not. I'm not. You're not. No ones sinless. Anyway, she's not sinless. That's the biggest thing that stuck out in my mind.

Joyce is NOT a false teacher. She is actually a highly anointed woman of God, gifted with the ability to teach the word with power.

You just don't understand what she's said and most likely it is because you have only heard little sound bytes of her teachings, created by bloggers and whatnot to promote what they think is false by their own clouded minds. They have evil agendas, you know! Don't be sucked in by them!

It's best to learn from a full teaching of the word. then, you can choose to accept it or reject it. Joyce only teaches the truth of God's word. So, you have a lot to overcome if you want to refute anything she says, as she is fully supported by what God says.

 

[FancyNancy]

Joyce Meyer
“I’ve had enough bondage. I’ve had enough negative thoughts. I’ve had enough of the lies of the devil. I am not going to have any more bad days. I am not going to be discouraged, depressed, or despondent. I am going to enjoy my life!”

Now I understand the bondage of depression, being despondent, and discouraged, but the answer is not enjoying life.
The answer is in seeing the things you can do, valuing the contribution you do make and others do make. It is giving yourself space to learn, to get better, to remember who you are and what you stand for. A little child can hold a pen and draw. That is something fantastic, changing the world through creative action.

When someone says they are going to enjoy their life, it speaks to me of someone who is self condemning, and feels they cannot do things because there is a moral problem with these actions. If this is what she is addressing, again the problem is in why the person feels condemned, not just through it all off and do what you like, that is literally hedonism.

John 10:10
The thief comes only in order to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have and enjoy life, and have it in abundance (to the full, till it overflows).

1 Peter 3:!0
For let him who wants to enjoy life and see good days [good—whether apparent or not] keep his tongue free from evil and his lips from guile (treachery, deceit).

 

[FancyNancy]

On the contrary, i feel pity for them. They have chosen a false god and will see hell if they dont repent and follow christ. I sm not envious of the hellbound false teachers.

It's a false, haughty attitude that you think is pity. You condemn where God applauds. Those who condemn God's anointed have a spiritual screw loose.

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

 

[FancyNancy]

Who are your truly anointed, and what is there teaching you so admire. I see greed wealth and heresy.
Or maybe I am just being christian about things, and actually I should leave the faith and join another one, which says power and domination work, zapping people into a drunken stupor is the way of God, claiming impossible things that are blatent lies is really upholding the truth.

Or are you capable of walking on water, but have not shown anyone because you are shy. I mean if non-believers saw that they would flock into churches, repent of their sins and start living holy lives, and not need to think about failure any more because it was all so abundant and victorious. The trouble is only those who smoke weed or snort cocain think like this, because it is so insane and wrong.

Perhaps what you see in people that disturbs you so much is what God wants to work on in you.