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But as I claimed, His hatred is not like yours or mine.
1 Samuel 15:3
'Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.'"
2 Kings 2:24 (Elisha mocked)
Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, "Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!" When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number.
'Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.'"
2 Kings 2:24 (Elisha mocked)
Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, "Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!" When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number.
V
I respect Paul Washer, but he is wrong. John 3:16 proves that Jesus' love extended to all men. Washer and others make the mistake of thinking God's wrath is poured out in anger and hatred. That is universes away from the truth.
His wrath is poured out in justice, and nothing more. Justice knows not hatred, or it is not justice. It is right, necessary, and divinely declared. It does not require hatred to be meted out.
His wrath is poured out in justice, and nothing more. Justice knows not hatred, or it is not justice. It is right, necessary, and divinely declared. It does not require hatred to be meted out.
L
No, he was not. Of course God loves all men, but at the same time He hates. God's hatred is not like humans' hatred, the hatred that you think of. As you have said, that He is Just, His hatred is perfectly Just. Unlike humans' hatred which are most of the time selfish.
The Bible clearly mentions in some verses, that God hates certain people. One of which has been mentioned in the video.
The Bible clearly mentions in some verses, that God hates certain people. One of which has been mentioned in the video.
M
You must have not watched the video. He hates the sinner as well
But as I claimed, His hatred is not like yours or mine.
But as I claimed, His hatred is not like yours or mine.
V
If God truly hates sinners, then how is it that He loved us "while we were yet sinners"?
Whether you are Calvinist, Arminian, or something in between, that is a dichotomy you cannot resolve if God actually hates sinners. Washer doesn't resolve it either.
Romans 5, NASB
6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die.
8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. [Emphasis added]
6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die.
8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. [Emphasis added]
Whether you are Calvinist, Arminian, or something in between, that is a dichotomy you cannot resolve if God actually hates sinners. Washer doesn't resolve it either.
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