Mental Illness: Sin or an Exception to the rule?
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We threw out that term a long time ago. Electro-convulsive therapy -- much more civilized.
Seriously, it last less than two seconds now on very low voltage and we've found that it is as effective as the near-electrocution levels they used prior to 1960.
Totally off topic, I know. We now return you to your regularly scheduled serious thread.
Seriously, it last less than two seconds now on very low voltage and we've found that it is as effective as the near-electrocution levels they used prior to 1960.
Totally off topic, I know. We now return you to your regularly scheduled serious thread.
We threw out that term a long time ago. Electro-convulsive therapy -- much more civilized.
Seriously, it last less than two seconds now on very low voltage and we've found that it is as effective as the near-electrocution levels they used prior to 1960.
Totally off topic, I know. We now return you to your regularly scheduled serious thread.
Seriously, it last less than two seconds now on very low voltage and we've found that it is as effective as the near-electrocution levels they used prior to 1960.
Totally off topic, I know. We now return you to your regularly scheduled serious thread.
If you aren't willing to electrocute yourself and fry your brain like an egg in order to get better...
then you just aren't committed to the process.
And I'm definitely committed.
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My aunt is a very faithful Christian yet suffers from mental illness. If she does not take her medications, she experiences auditory hallucinations.
Do I think that her condition is a result of sin or demonic influence or possession? No.
One of the effects of the Fall is that our physical bodies are subject to flaws, including our physical brains. Some of us have to deal with those issues in the best way that we can. I would never presume to say that someone's mental condition is due to sin, although I cannot eliminate that possibility.
I believe mental health drugs are overprescribed, though. Many believers take them when they should be looking to God to fulfill their emotional needs. I am not the one who determines which believers need them and which believers are misusing them.
God can heal any illness, physical or mental, if it is his will, though. We can be confident that whether we are healed or not, all things will work to our good as believers, as Romans 8:28-30 states.
Do I think that her condition is a result of sin or demonic influence or possession? No.
One of the effects of the Fall is that our physical bodies are subject to flaws, including our physical brains. Some of us have to deal with those issues in the best way that we can. I would never presume to say that someone's mental condition is due to sin, although I cannot eliminate that possibility.
I believe mental health drugs are overprescribed, though. Many believers take them when they should be looking to God to fulfill their emotional needs. I am not the one who determines which believers need them and which believers are misusing them.
God can heal any illness, physical or mental, if it is his will, though. We can be confident that whether we are healed or not, all things will work to our good as believers, as Romans 8:28-30 states.
Dear Elizabeth619, It was common thinking among the Jews that someone had to have sinned becasue of physical maladies.
Yet Jesus said:
And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. John 9:1-3
(v.6). When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay.
(v.7) And said unto him, Go wash in the pool of Si-lo-am, (which is by interpretation, Sent). He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.
Jesus confirms the truth addressed in Job. That is, physical infirmites or other sufferings are not necessarily related to human sin. God has often allowed suffering for reasons known only to Him, but, always with good reason, as confirmed in Romans 8:28
Yet Jesus said:
And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. John 9:1-3
(v.6). When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay.
(v.7) And said unto him, Go wash in the pool of Si-lo-am, (which is by interpretation, Sent). He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.
Jesus confirms the truth addressed in Job. That is, physical infirmites or other sufferings are not necessarily related to human sin. God has often allowed suffering for reasons known only to Him, but, always with good reason, as confirmed in Romans 8:28
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2 Timothy 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
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of course we can, and we do, if we are honest with ourselves.
is this to teach us not to rely on self but on God? i think so at least in part.
yet i have been quite recalcitrant in learning this lesson.
i have learned it, though, to an extent, because God Who promised is faithful to each promise.
Elizabeth, i dropped by to say i'm sorry you're going through this difficulty.
it's really nice to see you.
i love you.
-ellie
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, so that the surpassing greatness of the power will be of God and not from ourselves (2 Cor 4:7)
is this to teach us not to rely on self but on God? i think so at least in part.
yet i have been quite recalcitrant in learning this lesson.
i have learned it, though, to an extent, because God Who promised is faithful to each promise.
Elizabeth, i dropped by to say i'm sorry you're going through this difficulty.
it's really nice to see you.
i love you.
-ellie
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, so that the surpassing greatness of the power will be of God and not from ourselves (2 Cor 4:7)
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May God bless you and keep you Violet. Your story is strikingly similar to mine although I'm still struggling with it in regards to how the Holy Spirit is working in me and using the fear to burn out the garbage in my life. The most amazing thing is to see how much more I love and have compassion on others instead of judging them, arguing, especially non-fruitful doctrinal issues, lustful thoughts and actions, even overly aggressive driving!, to name a few. Love is THE answer. Look at how God used the pain of those relatives in Charleston to show the world Love and Grace.
Elizabeth, I pray in Jesus name that you would find peace, and if part of that answer is medication then God Bless the medication!
Elizabeth, I pray in Jesus name that you would find peace, and if part of that answer is medication then God Bless the medication!
