The predicted delusion in our time (Revelation 11:11-14)

[MikkoAinasoja]

11. And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like unto lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12. And he exerciseth all the authority of the first beast in his sight. And he maketh the earth and them dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose death-stroke was healed. 13. And he doeth great signs, that he should even make fire to come down out of heaven upon the earth in the sight of men. 14. And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by reason of the signs which it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived. (Revelation 11:11-14)

And today what we see, is those great signs, which are there for to deceive us, all kind of high technology, entertainment, fancy lifestyle what our time serve to us.

Or do some really believe that there will be rise another kingdom which will offers us more temptations, than this present do?

But you do not want to see this, even though it is obvious, that we live in the middle of world which is full of all kind of marvelous temptations, but still many of you want to think that the time of deceive are still to come, or some kind of Antichrist, even though the big delusion is here, and you have fall in to it, and that's the main reason, why you do not want to see it, because you love it, your heart is in that delusion.

It was predicted, that delusion will deceive many, and the prediction is true, and it happening right now.

Wake up, and cover your selves from the influence of this world, and bend your heart to God, and to the Lord Yeshua, so you may come know the truth, and the truth will set free, from the yoke of sin, and this world.

 

[tanach]

I am not sure where you are coming from. Of course there are temptations in this world. It says in the Bible love not the world or the things of the world. However the I cant understand what you mean by asking if the reader thinks thier will be an Antichrist. If you believe Scripture to be inspired by God then there is no doubt about it. As for the Delusion mentioned in scripture that too is coming. There are several possible explanations but I believe that the world will accept this person as the Messiah when he is raised from the dead and places the Abomination of desolation in the Temple. In history this was foreshadowed when the Greek ruler Antiochus Epiphanes set up a statue of Jupiter in the Temple and sacrificed pigs on an altar. An acount of this can be found in the book of Maccabes.

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

I am not sure where you are coming from. Of course there are temptations in this world. It says in the Bible love not the world or the things of the world. However the I cant understand what you mean by asking if the reader thinks thier will be an Antichrist. If you believe Scripture to be inspired by God then there is no doubt about it. As for the Delusion mentioned in scripture that too is coming. There are several possible explanations but I believe that the world will accept this person as the Messiah when he is raised from the dead and places the Abomination of desolation in the Temple. In history this was foreshadowed when the Greek ruler Antiochus Epiphanes set up a statue of Jupiter in the Temple and sacrificed pigs on an altar. An acount of this can be found in the book of Maccabes.

There is not such thing than the Antimessiah.

There have been many antimessiah, in the time of our dear brother John, like we may read in his letter, but the doctrine of the Antimessiah, a one man, which will rise causing the big delusion, is false doctrine from the early Catholic church, form man like Jerome, whom was a Bible translator, who also made some false end time prophecy, where this time of that one big Antimessia is mentioned.

The man was Bible translator, lead by his own wisdom, but not the Spirit.

And the abomination of desolation was when the army of Rome in the ground of Jerusalem, when they destroyed it in year 70.

 

[mwc68]

There is not such thing than the Antimessiah.

There have been many antimessiah, in the time of our dear brother John, like we may read in his letter, but the doctrine of the Antimessiah, a one man, which will rise causing the big delusion, is false doctrine from the early Catholic church, form man like Jerome, whom was a Bible translator, who also made some false end time prophecy, where this time of that one big Antimessia is mentioned.

The man was Bible translator, lead by his own wisdom, but not the Spirit.

And the abomination of desolation was when the army of Rome in the ground of Jerusalem, when they destroyed it in year 70.

You really want another Catholic bashing thread?

 

[crossnote]

Revelation 19:20 (KJV) And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Sounds like a couple of thugs to me rather than a 'system'.

 

[JaumeJ]

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

That's right, that Wicked is working "in" them, they, they all....meaning many as in a whole wicked generation.

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

 

[JaumeJ]

Many people when reading this selection from the Word do not see how it is mentioned within the text that those who believe lies under this spirit of delusion have already chosen evil over good and loved unrighteousness. It seems many would prefer putting our Father on trial in place of seeing justice being delved out perfectly.

That's right, that Wicked is working "in" them, they, they all....meaning many as in a whole wicked generation.

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

 

[tanach]

There have been quite a number of Bible translations since the days of Jerome. Is it being suggested that Bible scholars and researchers are still leaving Jeromes alleged mistakes untouched? As for the Roman destruction of the Temple in Ad 70, Titus
never set up astatue there and claimed to be God. Although he did intend to preserve it and use it as a pagan temple. His soldiers ignored his command to leave it intact and destroyed it in an attempt to take the gold and other precious metals from it. The prediction regarding Antichrist
was made in the book of Daniel and by Jesus himself. It has nothing to do with the Catholic Church.

 

[Blain]

11. And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like unto lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12. And he exerciseth all the authority of the first beast in his sight. And he maketh the earth and them dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose death-stroke was healed. 13. And he doeth great signs, that he should even make fire to come down out of heaven upon the earth in the sight of men. 14. And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by reason of the signs which it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived. (Revelation 11:11-14)

And today what we see, is those great signs, which are there for to deceive us, all kind of high technology, entertainment, fancy lifestyle what our time serve to us.

Or do some really believe that there will be rise another kingdom which will offers us more temptations, than this present do?

But you do not want to see this, even though it is obvious, that we live in the middle of world which is full of all kind of marvelous temptations, but still many of you want to think that the time of deceive are still to come, or some kind of Antichrist, even though the big delusion is here, and you have fall in to it, and that's the main reason, why you do not want to see it, because you love it, your heart is in that delusion.

It was predicted, that delusion will deceive many, and the prediction is true, and it happening right now.

Wake up, and cover your selves from the influence of this world, and bend your heart to God, and to the Lord Yeshua, so you may come know the truth, and the truth will set free, from the yoke of sin, and this world.

I have a question. How do you know you are not the one who is deluded and deceived?

Proverbs 16:2 All a person's ways seem pure to them, but motives are weighed by the LORD.

 

[jb]

11. And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like unto lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12. And he exerciseth all the authority of the first beast in his sight. And he maketh the earth and them dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose death-stroke was healed. 13. And he doeth great signs, that he should even make fire to come down out of heaven upon the earth in the sight of men. 14. And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by reason of the signs which it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived. (Revelation 11:11-14)

And today what we see, is those great signs, which are there for to deceive us, all kind of high technology, entertainment, fancy lifestyle what our time serve to us.

Or do some really believe that there will be rise another kingdom which will offers us more temptations, than this present do?

But you do not want to see this, even though it is obvious, that we live in the middle of world which is full of all kind of marvelous temptations, but still many of you want to think that the time of deceive are still to come, or some kind of Antichrist, even though the big delusion is here, and you have fall in to it, and that's the main reason, why you do not want to see it, because you love it, your heart is in that delusion.

It was predicted, that delusion will deceive many, and the prediction is true, and it happening right now.

Wake up, and cover your selves from the influence of this world, and bend your heart to God, and to the Lord Yeshua, so you may come know the truth, and the truth will set free, from the yoke of sin, and this world.

If you can't even manage to get the chapter and verse right (which is actually Rev 13v11-14) how on earth do you have the faintest idea what it means!

 

[JaumeJ]

When we know Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior, we cannot be deluded, for this knowledge is of the Holy Spirit......

I have a question. How do you know you are not the one who is deluded and deceived?

Proverbs 16:2 All a person's ways seem pure to them, but motives are weighed by the LORD.

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

Revelation 19:20 (KJV) And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Sounds like a couple of thugs to me rather than a 'system'.

I have to though that, have you not read the Bible?

23. Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be a fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all the kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. (Daniel 7:23)

It is the same beast as in revelation.

The serious question what you need to ask for your self is, why you do not understand the Scriptures, even the obvious part of it?

If the Spirit was leading you, you should understand, this and much more, but now everything seems to be behind of blanket, and most likely because there is no room for the Spirit in you.

The world is full of lies and temptations, but you people's do not seems to see that, or think that it is bad at all, instead you love this falsity around us.

The friendship with the world is enmity against God.

Open your eye's

 

[crossnote]

Revelation 19:20 (KJV) And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Sounds like a couple of thugs to me rather than a 'system'.

I have to though that, have you not read the Bible?

23. Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be a fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all the kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. (Daniel 7:23)

It is the same beast as in revelation.

The serious question what you need to ask for your self is, why you do not understand the Scriptures, even the obvious part of it?

If the Spirit was leading you, you should understand, this and much more, but now everything seems to be behind of blanket, and most likely because there is no room for the Spirit in you.

The world is full of lies and temptations, but you people's do not seems to see that, or think that it is bad at all, instead you love this falsity around us.

The friendship with the world is enmity against God.

Open your eye's

You know what. This does not deserve a response and I have lately refrained from putting individuals on ignore, but your response has just broken that restraint. Expect no more responses from me.

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

You know what. This does not deserve a response and I have lately refrained from putting individuals on ignore, but your response has just broken that restraint. Expect no more responses from me.

You do what you feel is right, but it my work to speak the truth here, and against the falsity.

 

[tanach]

So according to you there is no such thing as Anichrist or Antimessiah as you seem to prefer, and anyone who thinks there is may be deceived. Well apart from casting doubt on the plain truth of the Bible you have more or less claimed that every Christian in history has been deceived on this accept yourself. I wont be responding to your threads again unless I see some sensible Bible based discussion.

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

I have a question. How do you know you are not the one who is deluded and deceived?

Proverbs 16:2 All a person's ways seem pure to them, but motives are weighed by the LORD.

I do not rely on to people's like you do, but to God, so I do not find approval to the man, but God.

I am separated form the others for this work, by God.

 

[Blain]

I do not rely on to people's like you do, but to God, so I do not find approval to the man, but God.

I am separated form the others for this work, by God.

So you claim to be another one of those chosen special ppl by God? We are the body of Christ we have to work together as one as a team as a family not by our selves or else we will not make much difference in this world. The human body has many parts arms legs mouth ect. but if they all don't work properly then the body isn't as affective and can't do things other bodies that function correctly can. Jesus is the head some are the arms others are the legs others are the mouth but say one body part decides to either quit work working or some how de attaches itself saying it will work on it's own hw effective do you think the body will work then and how well do you think that body part will do on it's own?

You are no more special than anyone one else here and we all need to work together not separate and thinking we are special, sadly though many believers fail to realize this