Parenting Advice: 16 yo daughter wants to go to Hoodie Allen concert

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G4JC

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Well, read their lyrics and then decide.

Just a warning. Can not post them on this site.

Hoodie Allen – No Interruption Lyrics | Rap Genius
If this was my daughter, I was definitely put my foot down.
Tell her these in now way glorifies God and there
are MUCH better Christian rap groups that glorify God.
Definately would have to agree with MarkayMrk777 on that one. No way would I let me child get jammed with a head full of explicit lyrics and hang out with people who will likely be drinking beer and occassional drug usage which is associated with these types of concerts. Sure they try and keep the worst of it out by checking people as they come in, but we all know how well that works. :rolleyes:

While technically true she will need to make her own decisions, I would tell her no and explain why biblically it is dangerous.
Granted according to people my age I'd be an overly protective parent, but hey - it's a crazy world out there!
I just don't want to see her get raped, murdered, or pillaged. Nothing the matter with that. :)

Why not wait for a Christian group to come around? Invite her friends to that instead.
I think it all boils down to, as christians we are in the world, but we do not have to be of the world - and joining in their vices.
I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. - John 17:15-17
This also falls back to "Choosing Friends Wisely": Choose friends wisely <-- click
 
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I'm looking for advice on whether our 16 yo daughter should be allowed to go to this concert. It's a Hip-Hop/RAP concert and she would be going with a friend and her parents. What does the bible say about this type of thing? She is a Christ follower as well and I want to be able to explain my decision.
This is easy, you are her parent, you are still responsible for her spiritual well being by being a strong witness to her, now she claims to be a follower of Christ, and wants to go and fellowship with this worldly darkness????????????

I encourage you first off to check your heart, as you seem divided on what to do. If she sees nothing wrong with this, then where is her mind? and where is yours?

I know this may not be what you want to hear, but you both need to check what mind you are in, and if your church or pastor tells you its ok for you or your children to love the wicked world and its vain attractions, then he doesnt love you, is in great compromise!

WHAT MIND ARE YOU IN?

Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace
Rom 8:7 because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the Law of God, neither indeed can it be.
The more I seek the truth and compare what is being taught today by the mainstream ministries and pastors, I have come to the conclusion that those who oppose sound doctrine, and argue in favor of sin are not in their spiritual mind!
A carnal mind is way more than the vile sinners who live each and every day fulfilling the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye and the pride of life.
A carnal mind can also be the happy go lucky church goer, who has come into the kingdom through the repeat after me crowd! The have been duped into the great lie that promises them liberty, while they are still in bondage to many sins to various degrees!
They may not be like Ted Bundy, or Adolph Hitler, but when it comes to truth, and standing firm on it they will cleverly use and twist scriptures to make their plea for truth, which in reality is a plea to continue in sin and disobedience but still be saved and secure.
So when the truth is given to the lost masses out in la la land, they will either come with a spiritual mind yield to the spirit of truth, and seek the truth as laid out in scripture, they will diligently dig deep in the word, and not relent until the spirit fills their once carnal mind with spiritual truth that wells up in their heart and soul!
But many will stay in their carnal mindset, bent on being right at all cost! They argue, accuse, lie, and twist their way into the hearts and minds of the simple, which are hungry for truth, but open to any wind of doctrine that comes down the line.
The carnal mind is an enemy of God!
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ἔχθρα
echthra
ekh'-thrah
Hostility; by implication a reason for opposition: - enmity, hatred.

They refuse to see the error of the system, where original sin, substitution, followed of OSAS, is the norm, and anyone who comes against these false pagan and man-made teaching’s is called out as a heretic, evil, selfish, and self-righteous! Then they get upset when you tell them they must repent, stop sinning as commanded, and give ample scriptural proof their beloved saved IN sin message isn’t in the word of God!

Again the carnal mind is polluted with the thing of the world, they have no desire to guard their heart from the many lies and deceptions lurking around every corner, nor tune out to the world and its vain attractions and entertainments!

The carnal mind is easy to spot, they come at you as a loving, peaceful lamb, but when you confront them with the truth, they soon turn into an angry wolf, seeking to devour anybody who encourages them to dig deep, do not be deceived, hold fast, cling to what is true, seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, rightly divide the word of truth, be diligent, put on the full armor of God, run the race to the end, etc.

Many, many warnings given to the humble soul, who comes broken and contrite to the mercy seat pleading to God for mercy and reconciliation! Who has actually crucified their flesh with Christ as commanded, now cleansed and purge of all dead works, ready to now receive with meekness the truth of the word.

Carnal and spiritual are dead end enemies! They cancel each other out; you can’t be in one mind one minute then another mind the next, but this is what is being taught as normal throughout the professing Christian world today!

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not think fit to have God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do the things not right.

Tit 1:16 They profess that they know God, but in their works they deny Him, being abominable and disobedient and reprobate to every good work.

The whole dynamic process of salvation laid out by God is not getting saved as a vile sinner, then combating your flesh until you die, NO it’s the only way out, putting to death the works of the devil, keeping the carnal mind dead and obsolete.

Salvation is not a provision handed down by God to cure your ongoing sin and rebellion, NO its death to the old man, where the Holy son of God came as a sin offering, to return us to favor to God, on condition of real repentance(sin stops) and an obedient faith, both proven by deeds of a cleansed and pure heart, open to receive the spirit, broken and spiritually minded, standing fast in the truth, as the lost church and world condemns them, scoffing at their works of the heart gospel, loving their carnal mind that is opposed to God.

Faith upholds the law, holding fast to the word, faith works through love, bearing good fruit of the heart, and it overcomes the world, the flesh and the devil!

The word of God is rich and overflowing with many powerful nuggets of pure gold, giving the cleansed and spiritual mind fresh water that keeps them in the faith, as he comes broken and zealous to serve God with all their heart and soul!

So the next time you want to shoot the messenger of truth, ask yourself which mind you are in?

Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the children of disobedience.
Tommy
 
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I would like to add one more important thing here, until the lost church comes to real repentance as commanded, then all is lost, and they will not see why these worldly things are NOT of God!

A Call to Repentance
Joel,2-12 “Now, therefore,” says the LORD,
“Turn to Me with all your heart,
With fasting, with weeping, and with mourning.”
13 So rend your heart, and not your garments;
Return to the LORD your God,
For He is gracious and merciful,
Slow to anger, and of great kindness;
And He relents from doing harm.
14 Who knows if He will turn and relent,
And leave a blessing behind Him—
Here is more strong proof what the lord requires of His creation to be reconciled to Himself, it’s very simple but made so complicated by the heaps and heaps of pastors and ministries who have the nerve to say mankind does NOT have to repent to be saved.
They come with a simple plan that was concocted by many reformed preachers and bible scholars, making the way to the cross more of a simple confession you are a sinner, then accepting the great substitution Jesus miraculously made for them, but they fail to give any proof that the word of God let alone the King of Kings taught this non sense!
Many will fight with all they have to preserve their man made doctrines including original sin, which then gives them many excuses to ignore the powerful verse above as well as many more strong warnings to repent, turn, come broken in heart before the mercy seat, and hope and pray God will grant pardon!
Now if this was being preached in the church system today, and well understood by the saved in sin defenders, then the mess Christianity is in today would not be so, instead, the word of God would become real, and powerful, converting the lost soul, once in love with sin, rebellion and the world, now cleansed and purged of all filthiness, and wickedness, ready to receive the implanted word of God!
But today these verses are totally ignored, and replaced with a sin message, undermined by many, many, reformed errors, where simple repentance is lost in a sea of original sin, imputation, substitution, OSAS etc, producing a church that was called poor, blind and naked by Jesus Himself!
2 Corinthians 6;17 The.refore
“Come out from among them
And be separate, says the Lord.
Do not touch what is unclean,
And I will receive you.”[d]
18 “I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the LORD Almighty.”[e]
Act 26:20 But to those first in Damascus, and Jerusalem, and to all the country of Judea, and to the nations, I made known the command to repent and to turn to God, doing works worthy of repentance.
Tommy 1-23-13
PS. We must come to Jesus on His terms, not mans, I know many are taught the opposite today, they either were indoctrinated into these teachings at an early age, and refuse to even search the scriptures, search what the early church taught, or dig deep to see just how far off the mark many liberal translations of the Bible are.
When the reformation came about, around the year 1500, many denominations were formed that took these errors and built on them, leading to what we have today! Many will profess anything different from what their beloved denominations teach is heresy, and a lie, especially those who cling to Calvinism, or any form of it.
This I understand, and accept, as God predicted this would happen, when the few remnant come with the truth. But it’s a bitter pill to swallow, when you see so many sincere people, young and old, so angry and upset when the truth is presented to them, and they attack the messenger.
To me this shows just how far off the mark they are in their minds, they love the lie, refuse to hear anything else except the born sinner, Jesus sub plan, made so famous by the likes of Billy Graham, Ed Young, and many more mega preachers, selling a gospel that is totally backwards from what the early church and Christ taught.
Are we full of pride and arrogant to say these things? Are we evil, uncaring, and full of hate when we confront the wall of deception accepted as truth today?
I guess I can also say this about the many who cling to the saved IN sin message, repeat after me crowd, who has every excuse why they can sin with impunity, then just confess, and then continue as a vile sinner in heart, where purity and separation is a pipe dream never to be accomplished in this life, even though the whole council of God is against them.
Dig deep as commanded, have some confidence in the Lord to lead you into truth, not some ministry or church pastor you support, who clings to these errors for whatever reason.
The gospel according to godliness is a TO DO gospel, which can only be received and understood in its form and context when the sinner wakes up and does this:
James 1-21-22;
21 So get rid of all uncleanness(repent) and the rampant outgrowth of wickedness, and in a humble (gentle, modest) spirit receive and welcome the Word which implanted and rooted [in your hearts] contains the power to save your souls.
22 But be doers of the Word [obey the message], and not merely listeners to it, betraying yourselves [into deception by reasoning contrary to the Truth].!
1, You repent first and foremost, see 2 Corinthians 7-10-11.
2, Then if the repentance is real, and from the heart, godly sorrow as described in 2 Corinthians, you then can receive the implanted word of God, and understand it as written by God.
3, Now you become a passionate doer of the word, obeying God from your heart, cleansed and purified, broken and willing to learn and grow more, and more in His great truth.







 
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2boymom

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#25
Curious if you daughter went to this concert and if she went - how did everything go? My son wants to attend the same concert. Would love your opinion.
 
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Jesuslover86652

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#26
Well, read their lyrics and then decide.

Just a warning. Can not post them on this site.

Hoodie Allen – No Interruption Lyrics | Genius
If this was my daughter, I was definitely put my foot down.
Tell her these in now way glorifies God and there
are MUCH better Christian rap groups that glorify God.

Show her this:

[video=youtube;QCcW-guAs_s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCcW-guAs_s[/video]
Oh my god shut up. It's a concert. He's not a devil worshiper. I think that girl would probably survive hearing that stuff, you can't protect her virgin ears forever. I don't think you have any idea what it's like to be a 16 year old in today's world.
 
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Tintin

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Oh my god shut up. It's a concert. He's not a devil worshiper. I think that girl would probably survive hearing that stuff, you can't protect her virgin ears forever. I don't think you have any idea what it's like to be a 16 year old in today's world.
Please don't disrespect God's name. Also, this 16 year old girl is possibly 19 years old by now. Don't resurrect ancient threads!
 
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Jesuslover86652

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Definately would have to agree with MarkayMrk777 on that one. No way would I let me child get jammed with a head full of explicit lyrics and hang out with people who will likely be drinking beer and occassional drug usage which is associated with these types of concerts. Sure they try and keep the worst of it out by checking people as they come in, but we all know how well that works. :rolleyes:

While technically true she will need to make her own decisions, I would tell her no and explain why biblically it is dangerous.
Granted according to people my age I'd be an overly protective parent, but hey - it's a crazy world out there!
I just don't want to see her get raped, murdered, or pillaged. Nothing the matter with that. :)

Why not wait for a Christian group to come around? Invite her friends to that instead.
I think it all boils down to, as christians we are in the world, but we do not have to be of the world - and joining in their vices.

This also falls back to "Choosing Friends Wisely": Choose friends wisely <-- click
Dear lord I can't handle you people. Not everything in the world is rainbows and unicorns. Open your eyes. You can either protect your child from pointless things, and make them resent you, or you can let them enjoy themselves every once and a while. I'm gonna guess she won't get raped going to this concert. Chances are pretty low. The bible does not say Hip-Hop/RAP are sins. Let her be.
 
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Jesuslover86652

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Please don't disrespect God's name. Also, this 16 year old girl is possibly 19 years old by now. Don't resurrect ancient threads!
Isn't it past your bedtime?