Is Vatican work for the devil?

[Jackson123]

For real, does anybody accept these disturbed individuals in the articles, really believe Catholicism stated Islam? I have heard some whoppers before, but wow! You do know they are killing Catholics and destroying churches right?

It is possible.

According to some article, catholic start Islam to use for take over Jerusalem.

Catholic like to work behind the screen, to look that she is good, and she not the one who did it.

Then according to some expert, after took over Jerusalem, Islam rebel and not turn it to Vatican. Islam build his own mosque there instead.


Why Catholic Want Jerusalem?

According to some expert, this is the story:

Catholic believe Pope represent Jesus on earth.

bible said Jesus will reign from Jerusalem/ mount Olive,

To make Pope like Jesus, Vatican want mount Olive for long time.

That why Vatican create Muslim to make the job done.

That happen 1400 years ago.

That explain why they kill catholic, because they relationship already broken up long.

But I believe Jesuit not let it go easy.

Jesuit will do what ever it possible to used them for create chaos.

they don't care if it mean sacrifice her own catholic member.

ISIS not only kill Catholic, ISIS kill Muslim, as well.

 

[Jackson123]

Continuation of 101

From this reason, it is visible to see, why Vatican call for one world Government.

If Jesus the King of king, King who rule all kings on earth,

His representative/Pope must represent as King of king.

And will reign from Mount Olive.


No wonder, Muslim specifically, took over mount olive which is part of Jerusalem.


That is the target Vatican order them to do.

 

[Mac4Yuma]

I think you all have it wrong. The Pope will not be nor is the Anti_Christ.

The Anti_Christ is probably some one in power in the World, i do not believe its Pope Francis.

I do believe Pope Francis will be involved with the Anti_Christ. I believe Pope Francis will be the false prophet talked about in Revelation 16:13.


Revelation 16:13-14
[SUP]13 [/SUP] And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

I do believe Satan will use the Catholic Church as one of his pawns in battle against God.

I could be wrong but I think the bible speaks of more then one Anti_Christ popping up.

Mac.

 

[JUSTNE1]

I am no longer Catholic because i cannot harmonize the teachings with scripture but the Catholic Diocese where i live has been really good to me and this area.
In fact my friend who is a Catholic Priest is one of the most generous people I have ever met.
Don't know much about The Pope so would be unfair to judge.

 

[Jackson123]

I am no longer Catholic because i cannot harmonize the teachings with scripture but the Catholic Diocese where i live has been really good to me and this area.
In fact my friend who is a Catholic Priest is one of the most generous people I have ever met.
Don't know much about The Pope so would be unfair to judge.

I like your reasoning brother. despite of the most generous catholic priest you leave catholic because the teaching not inline with the bible.

It is good decision.

 

[JUSTNE1]

My point is that although I do not hold to the Catholic faith, I have seen that Our Lord uses people within this faith for his purposes. The local diocese have a homeless centre, food bank, IT lessons for the elderly, mass at old folks homes and critically I'll homes etc
I believe this to be universal, God used Pagan Kings numerous times and even called them "anointed"

The Catholic Church may be a stepping Stone of Faith in the developing World.

We are very quick to criticize other faiths that do not fit into our doctrinal bubble but i believe Our Lord has full control.

Blessings to you

 

[Jackson123]

My point is that although I do not hold to the Catholic faith, I have seen that Our Lord uses people within this faith for his purposes. The local diocese have a homeless centre, food bank, IT lessons for the elderly, mass at old folks homes and critically I'll homes etc
I believe this to be universal, God used Pagan Kings numerous times and even called them "anointed"

The Catholic Church may be a stepping Stone of Faith in the developing World.

We are very quick to criticize other faiths that do not fit into our doctrinal bubble but i believe Our Lord has full control.

Blessings to you

In My country Muslim has a lot of orphan housing, free school, Buddha has free housing for the poor etc, to look good from outside and attract more follower, it is trap to get more people to hell.

We are not judge brother, but we have to expose the darkness.

Ephesians 5:11 ​

Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

 

[KenAllan]

How can God uses the Catholics for His purposes when they are committing Idolatry? When the Catholics pray the Hail Mary they are accepting Mary as their God.

The Catholic Church is not a stepping stone to God, its a stepping stone into Idolatry.

 

[JUSTNE1]

In My country Muslim has a lot of orphan housing, free school, Buddha has free housing for the poor etc, to look good from outside and attract more follower, it is trap to get more people to hell.

We are not judge brother, but we have to expose the darkness.

Ephesians 5:11 ​

Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

My friend

I am not sticking up for Catholic Doctrine but The Bible makes it clear that those who BELIEVE on Jesus will be saved.

God is clearly more than able to SAVE any Soul.
There are over 1 Billion Catholics in the World. Do you imagine that Our Lord would leave them all because they mistakenly pray to Mary, visit relics and follow tradition etc?
Would you condemn them?
They after all believe in The Messiah and even follow after the false doctrine because they believe they are being obedient and fulfilling righteousness that they are taught.
It is a Christian Faith which was solely Christian before the reformation. Think how many observers there have been over all these centuries
We too follow our Souls to obedience in our truths. In some ways we are not too dissimilar in actions of faith.
I for example like too keep the Friday/Saturday Sabbath to afflict my soul.
I do not think people need a water baptism
I have read various Bible versions

We all believe we are led by the Spirit so why are we all so different?

 

[JUSTNE1]

It was my stepping stone to God.
Sin is abundant in every church and goes largely unheralded.

The Catholic Church Sins, so do you!!

 

[Jackson123]

My friend

I am not sticking up for Catholic Doctrine but The Bible makes it clear that those who BELIEVE on Jesus will be saved.

God is clearly more than able to SAVE any Soul.
There are over 1 Billion Catholics in the World. Do you imagine that Our Lord would leave them all because they mistakenly pray to Mary, visit relics and follow tradition etc?
Would you condemn them?
They after all believe in The Messiah and even follow after the false doctrine because they believe they are being obedient and fulfilling righteousness that they are taught.
It is a Christian Faith which was solely Christian before the reformation. Think how many observers there have been over all these centuries
We too follow our Souls to obedience in our truths. In some ways we are not too dissimilar in actions of faith.
I for example like too keep the Friday/Saturday Sabbath to afflict my soul.
I do not think people need a water baptism
I have read various Bible versions

We all believe we are led by the Spirit so why are we all so different?

Believe in the sense that Jesus is God not save us, Devil is also believe that Jesus is God and not only that devil shudder hear His name. And devil not save.

Believe that save us is in the sense of believe His word and instruction. Work for Him not work for His enemy/devil.

Vatican want one world government, she work for devil.

Pretend to believe Jesus, yes they believe Jesus is God but rebel to Him by her worship Idol and promote one world government.

James 2:19​

You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder.

Galatians 1:8 ​

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!

 

[Jackson123]

This what I mean by worship statue

 

[Jackson123]

It was my stepping stone to God.
Sin is abundant in every church and goes largely unheralded.

The Catholic Church Sins, so do you!!

ISIS is sin,

I am sin

We all sin

but it doesn't mean ISIS go to heaven.


I am sin but I believe in Jesus and use bible as a foundation of my faith.

catholic sin but did not use bible as sole foundation of her faith.

They use tradition and most of the time not inline with the bible.

Isn't why you leave Catholic?

About the stepping stone,

In my country I hear a lot of testimony, some Muslim accept the Lord Jesus after pondering some verse in Quran.

It mean Quran is they stepping stone to Know Jesus.

But it doesn't mean Islam is save or good religion.

Muslim is false religion, but some Muslim come to the Lord after read specific verse in the Quran.

 

[JUSTNE1]

If you use Bible as basis of your faith you will surely recognise Divine Providence.

I could criticize Baptists as being delusional about KJV Infallibility
I could criticize Pentecostals for preaching Tongues and healing
I could criticize C of E as being founded by a man who wanted a divorce
I could criticize Rapture movements for lacking Love
I could criticize cessasionists for having little biblical evidence

But we are Justified by faith through Grace on believing in Jesus.

You see picking on large religion is too easy. Without Catholicism there would be no Protestant reformation.
Like it or not Catholicism is responsible for a large portion of Christian Converts in developing countries.

I also must stress again that I do not hold to Catholic dogma,

However my faith is such that I trust God the Father, Our Lord and the Holy Spirit to bring in the flocks around the world, even with our flawed doctrine, legalist fingerprinting and prejudiced teachers.

Blessings

NB Catholics are Christian. You may wish to show your brothers in Christ a little more respect.

 

[mwc68]

From my experience here, Jackson has put God into a little box. Anything ouside of Jackson's box is darkness.

 

[Jackson123]

If you use Bible as basis of your faith you will surely recognise Divine Providence.

I could criticize Baptists as being delusional about KJV Infallibility
I could criticize Pentecostals for preaching Tongues and healing
I could criticize C of E as being founded by a man who wanted a divorce
I could criticize Rapture movements for lacking Love
I could criticize cessasionists for having little biblical evidence

But we are Justified by faith through Grace on believing in Jesus.

You see picking on large religion is too easy. Without Catholicism there would be no Protestant reformation.
Like it or not Catholicism is responsible for a large portion of Christian Converts in developing countries.

I also must stress again that I do not hold to Catholic dogma,

However my faith is such that I trust God the Father, Our Lord and the Holy Spirit to bring in the flocks around the world, even with our flawed doctrine, legalist fingerprinting and prejudiced teachers.

Blessings

NB Catholics are Christian. You may wish to show your brothers in Christ a little more respect.

we could criticize any thing we want my brother.

The problem is to expose the darkness is the will of God.

It is not a matter of criticize, it is a matter to do the will of God to expose the darkness.

I am not consider the religion that teach worship the Idol and teach Muslim is in the plan of salvation as a christian.

To say muslim in the plan of salvation is preach another gospel.

Christian may sin, but not preach another gospel.

 

[Jackson123]

From my experience here, Jackson has put God into a little box. Anything ouside of Jackson's box is darkness.

I am not put God into little box.

But I try to do as close as I can, follow the word.

1 John 4:1 ​

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.


If Catholic teach Muslim in the plan of salvation, TEST it whether it is inline with the teaching of the bible.

 

[MikeHenderson]

JUSTNE1 you are wrong. There were lots of True Christians long before the Catholic Church. The reason that there were Protestants was because the Catholic Church had killed off all the True Christians in the world.

There is blood on the hands of the Catholics. Innocent blood from murder.

How can a Catholic be a True Christian JUSTNE1 when Mary is the God of the Catholics?

The Catholics have done nothing but evil ever since they were established by Satan to counteract God and His True Children.

 

[Mac4Yuma]

It was my stepping stone to God.
Sin is abundant in every church and goes largely unheralded.

The Catholic Church Sins, so do you!!

When I read your last line I wondered why one would say such to Jesus...

Then like all of us maybe we also will slip off a stepping stone.

Mac.

 

[Mac4Yuma]

JUSTNE1 you are wrong. There were lots of True Christians long before the Catholic Church. The reason that there were Protestants was because the Catholic Church had killed off all the True Christians in the world.

There is blood on the hands of the Catholics. Innocent blood from murder.

How can a Catholic be a True Christian JUSTNE1 when Mary is the God of the Catholics?

The Catholics have done nothing but evil ever since they were established by Satan to counteract God and His True Children.

You said: "There is blood on the hands of the Catholics. Innocent blood from murder" but the same goes for almost all the churches and all most all people. Maybe you know something the Catholic Church did that most of us do not and if so please let us know. Keep in mind that the Protestens are off shoots of that Church just with different rules.

Mac.

Mac.