Is Vatican work for the devil?

[Jackson123]

That's all we ever do is Judge!
Christians are experts at Judging Gods Servants!

Why don't we let God be God and us be the shallow, vain, self devieving hypocrites that we are.

If we did that there would never be 40,000 (estimated) Christian denominations, All of which profess the ONLY true faith, all of which subdue and point fingers at other Brothers and Sisters who do not hold to a specific doctrine.

I am ashamed to be a Christian sometimes!

1. The bible said adultery is sin.

then we repeat and said adultery is sin, Is that judge?

2. The bible said don't make any graven image and bow to it.

This Pope bow to the statue. And I said it is sin, Am I judge?

3. You was catholic, and you found out that the catholic doctrine not inline with the bible. Are you judge?

My opinion about judge is if we punish.

Example of judge is inquisition.

Inquisition not only said protestant wrong but brutally and sadistically punish them, kill them in very inhuman way and very satanic.

this is the different between judge and expose the darkness.

You don't need to know everything about catholic,

when a judge make a judgement, in the court, he doesn't need to know everything about the suspect,

Say murder case.

Judge doesn't need to know what kind of food he like, How must he give to the poor. He may give a millions dollar to the poor but if judge see the strong evident about his murder case, he is guilty.

 

[JUSTNE1]

I admire you wanting to keep this thread open.

I am no longer interested in this debate. I agree to disagree.

Peace and Blessings as always Brother

I will even submit "like" on your last post just so you might be appeased

 

[prove-all]

Pope Calls for New World Government

https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/12819.18.0.0/pope-calls-for-new-world-government

 

[Jackson123]

I admire you wanting to keep this thread open.

I am no longer interested in this debate. I agree to disagree.

Peace and Blessings as always Brother

I will even submit "like" on your last post just so you might be appeased

Thank for your participation, God Bless you and your family.

 

[Jackson123]

Pope Calls for New World Government

https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/12819.18.0.0/pope-calls-for-new-world-government

It is foreseeable that, once certain resources have been depleted, the scene will be set for new wars, albeit under the guise of noble claims. War always does grave harm to the environment and to the cultural riches of peoples, risks which are magnified when one considers nuclear arms and biological weapons.

 

[JUSTNE1]

Jackanory hour at the Lost and Lost

 

[bondservant]

Sin is a term for missing the mark, such a term used in a competition of archery.
Antichrist = many get this confused with against god, that is the wrong definition, instead of God is the right definition.
One world order has been man quest from the beginning of time. Read the story of the tower of Babel in the old testament, it has also been printed on our money for some time now .
The rise of Babylon in revelation is what isis is trying to do some scholars believe. Iraq is old Babylon.
It is believed that the Antichrist will be of Jewish decent because of him allowed to offer sacrifices in the temple. Just a thought.

 

[Jackson123]

Sin is a term for missing the mark, such a term used in a competition of archery.
Antichrist = many get this confused with against god, that is the wrong definition, instead of God is the right definition.
One world order has been man quest from the beginning of time. Read the story of the tower of Babel in the old testament, it has also been printed on our money for some time now .
The rise of Babylon in revelation is what isis is trying to do some scholars believe. Iraq is old Babylon.
It is believed that the Antichrist will be of Jewish decent because of him allowed to offer sacrifices in the temple. Just a thought.

And since beginning God doesn't like it.

Why Pope like it and promote it.


Is that Prove that Pope work for the Devil?

 

[tanach]

Whatever you may think of the Catholic Church and the Pope it must be Gods will that it all continues otherwise it would have
gone out of business centuries ago. I regret that Martin Luther had to leave the Church and was not able to reform it from the inside. If he had done so we wouldnt be left with a broken body consisting of hundreds of competing churches.

 

[Brother_J_BELGIUM]

Judging is wrong? Maybe we should focus on what Jesus said in John 7:24 to judge righteously.

 

[gotime]

I see people questioning the catholic religion saying its obvious they are not following God. News flash, many of your beliefs come from the Catholic church.

Trace back History and you will see. Futurism and Pretarism and whatever mix and match of them came from the Jesuits to bring the Protestants back. Go on trace the History. Ecumenism did not come from Protestants either trace it back it is also the act of the Catholic church to bring the gullible Protestants back to the Mother church.

Trace the History and you will find out why you really keep Sunday as the Sabbath. Its all from the very ones you claim to be smarter than. Trace it and see that much of what you believe is not based on the bible but traditions handed down from the Catholic church. Trace it all and see where you end up. Like they say all roads lead to Rome, but in this case the Roman Catholic Church.

I know, I know you think I am wrong. that is fine but If you trace it all back you will see I am right. either way take it of leave it. The world will be under the thumb of the Vatican once more and then the end will come.

 

[Budman]

Why would tolerance of other religions be damnable? So much blood has been spilled over religion. Do you want more? Wouldn't it be better to just live and let live?

Do you, or do you not believe, that religions other than Christianity lead people into hell?

Why would you want to "tolerate" the damnation of so many?

It's like watching an untold number of people blindly walking toward a cliff, and you saying; "Well, live and let live!"

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Do you, or do you not believe, that religions other than Christianity lead people into hell?

Why would you want to "tolerate" the damnation of so many?

It's like watching an untold number of people blindly walking toward a cliff, and you saying; "Well, live and let live!"

Just goes to show the evil of his church, Instead of judging a false gospel and not tolerating it, lets live and let live, and let everyone else join us in hell.

They went from killing everyone who did not agree with them for centuries, to now taking the opposite stand.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I see people questioning the catholic religion saying its obvious they are not following God. News flash, many of your beliefs come from the Catholic church.

Trace back History and you will see. Futurism and Pretarism and whatever mix and match of them came from the Jesuits to bring the Protestants back. Go on trace the History. Ecumenism did not come from Protestants either trace it back it is also the act of the Catholic church to bring the gullible Protestants back to the Mother church.

Trace the History and you will find out why you really keep Sunday as the Sabbath. Its all from the very ones you claim to be smarter than. Trace it and see that much of what you believe is not based on the bible but traditions handed down from the Catholic church. Trace it all and see where you end up. Like they say all roads lead to Rome, but in this case the Roman Catholic Church.

I know, I know you think I am wrong. that is fine but If you trace it all back you will see I am right. either way take it of leave it. The world will be under the thumb of the Vatican once more and then the end will come.

Nah, All of my beliefs come from the word, written by God and completed befor ethe Apostle John went home to his future glory.

Maybe the catholic church agreed with some of those beliefs, but those beliefs did not originate with the catholic church.

 

[prove-all]

The number 666 in Greek and Hebrew adds up to "Neron Caesar", Nero Caesar.
It's the name of Nero, the Roman Emperor.

John was writing Revelation sometime around 64 AD.

The 4th kingdom in Daniel 2 & 7 is Pagan Rome.
the beasts in Revelation 13 are in the opposite order to Daniel 7

Daniel looking forward has the order of:-
1) Lion
2) Bear
3) Leopard

4) Dragon

4The first was like a lion
5And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear
6After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard,

7After this I saw in [the night ]visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible,
and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces,
and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts
that were before it;and it had ten horns.

Revelation 13:1

1) Dragon

2) Leopard
3) Bear
4) Lion

And [the beast] which I saw was[ like] unto a leopard,
and his feet were as the feet of a bear,
and his mouth as the mouth of a lion:


-there is only one beast[like the others] mentioned here at Johns time


and [the dragon gave] him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

john sees 7 beasts forward, same as the 7 last horns of daniel,
starting with 4 th little horn, come from the ten horns, of danials forth beast kingdom.

but john sees things different when looking backwards in time.
just like Danials record , while he was in the second kingdom time frame,
spoken of the first kingdom[past] as in a night dream

(1) And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea,
A gentile world rulling kingdoms[not israel] and ther kings, rising among the people of the world.

having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns,
and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death;
and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 beast kingdom, rome was concured, what became from area afterwards.

but was made alive again by the little horn, the church healed it and lived again.
people say some man in the future who dies then lives again.

Revelation 13:15
(15) And he [had power] to give life unto [the image ]of the beast, that the image of
the beast should both speak,and cause that as many as would not worship
the image of the beast should be killed.


this happen in the past history, the mighty church labeled the jews who keep Gods sabbath ,
and made it law, and by the power of rome, tortured or killed them, if they did not recant
of there supposed bad ways.

 

[Jackson123]

Judging is wrong? Maybe we should focus on what Jesus said in John 7:24 to judge righteously.

but expose the darkness is mandatory for christian.

Example of judging is Inquisition.

Judging involve penalty. Inquisition punish the what she think heresy with sadistic punishment

 

[MikeHenderson]

God removed His Children from the Catholic Church. He did not reform the Catholic Church because the Catholic Church is to play a part in the end times when Satan rules the World for 7 years.

Satan will use the Catholic Church to deceive people into following him. Satan already has the Catholics following Mary as their God. The Catholics are primed to follow the Anti_Christ also when he appears on the scene.

 

[mwc68]

God removed His Children from the Catholic Church. He did not reform the Catholic Church because the Catholic Church is to play a part in the end times when Satan rules the World for 7 years.

Satan will use the Catholic Church to deceive people into following him. Satan already has the Catholics following Mary as their God. The Catholics are primed to follow the Anti_Christ also when he appears on the scene.

ummmmm ok, wow, you have a direct line to satan? You are so sure of this?

 

[MikeHenderson]

Sir i know more about what the Catholic Church is doing and why they are doing it then you do.

I do not have a direct line to Satan sir, I have a direct line to God! Which you can also have if you would just let Jesus Christ into your Heart.

 

[bondservant]

Ok I get it for the third day in a row. But did you know saints that we are judged by our motives on what we say and do. God judges our works and motives. Now I see no edification nor prompting of the spirit in this thread so I have to ask what's the motive? Catholics all bad is what you are pointing to and that we are called to expose that darkness. To expose the darkness one must be a light so I may have missed that ray of sunshine so I ask again what is the motive. Shall we call fire down from heaven to consume them? Shall we brow beat them into submission? Do we kill the pope and all who follow him? Religion is man made its man's attempt to reach God. God came to man in the cool of the day and as Christ reincarnated. I am sure that God is aware of what's going on as it is in his plan in fact I think you read it out of his book. So where do we go from here? A friend told me one time "careful what you point your finger at because 3 will point back at you". Just saying