Was Hitler Gay?

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There has recently been two books published by respected authors that prove Hitler was gay and the Nazis Party started as a gay political club.

The truth about homosexuality and the Nazi Party

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By Bryan Fischer

The Interfaith Alliance, a far-left religious advocacy group in Idaho, has accused Scott Lively, a scheduled speaker at this weekend's "Shake the Nation" conference in Boise, of "bearing false witness" and of being "mean-spirited and hurtful."

Lively's crime? In his book, "The Pink Swastika," Lively exposes a secret homosexual activists don't want you to know about Nazi Germany: that although the Nazis did persecute homosexuals, the homosexuals the Nazis persecuted were almost exclusively the effeminate members of the gay community in Germany, and that much of the mistreatment was administered by masculine homosexuals who despised effeminacy in all its forms.

Ludwig Lenz worked at the Sex Research Institute in Berlin, which was destroyed by Hitler's Brown Shirts in 1933 likely because its records, including 40,000 confessions from members of the Nazi Party, would have exposed the sexual perversions of Nazi leadership. Lenz said that "not ten percent of the men who, in 1933, took the fate of Germany into their hands, were sexually normal."

In fact, the Nazi Party began in a gay bar in Munich, and Ernst Roehm, Hitler's right hand in the early days of Nazism, was well-known for his taste in young boys. William Shirer says in his definitive "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," not only that Roehm was "important in the rise of Hitler," but also "like so many of the early Nazis, (he was) a homosexual."

Hitler eventually had Roehm shot, not because he was a homosexual but because his influence over the Brown Shirts made him a political threat to Hitler's control. The Roehm Purge, or "Night of the Long Knives," was largely implemented by homosexuals.

Hitler's Brown Shirts, the dreaded SA, better known as "Storm Troopers," were the creation of another homosexual, Gerhard Rossbach, and Storm Troopers were almost exclusively homosexual. They also, sadly, comprised most of the leadership of the Hitler Youth, resulting in frequent instances of sexual molestation.
 
The news that Jorg Haider - the Austrian fascist leader - spent his final few hours in a gay bar with a hot blond has shocked some people. It hasn't shocked me. This is a taboo topic for a gay left-wing man like me to touch, but there has always been a weird, disproportionate overlap between homosexuality and fascism. Take a deep breath; here goes.
Some 10,000 gay people were slaughtered in the Nazi death-camps. Many more were humiliated, jailed, deported, ethnically cleansed, or castrated. One gay survivor of the camps, LD Classen von Neudegg, has written about his experiences. A snapshot: "Three men had tried to escape one night. They were captured, and when they returned they had the word 'homo' scrawled across their clothing. They were placed on a block and whipped. Then they were forced to beat a drum and cheer, 'Hurrah! We're back! Hurrah!' Then they were hanged." This is one of the milder events documented in his book.

So the idea of a gay fascist seems ridiculous. Yet when the British National Party - our own home-grown Holocaust-denying bigots - announced it was fielding an openly gay candidate in the European elections this June, dedicated followers of fascism didn't blink. The twisted truth is that gay men have been at the heart of every major fascist movement that ever was - including the gay-gassing, homo-cidal Third Reich. With the exception of Jean-Marie Le Pen, all the most high-profile fascists in Europe in the past thirty years have been gay. It's time to admit something. Fascism isn't something that happens out there, a nasty habit acquired by the straight boys. It is - in part, at least - a gay thing, and it's time for non-fascist gay people to wake up and face the marching music.


-Johann Hari - huff post
 
Does this matter in the least? James 2 of England who commissioned the KJV translation of the bible was also gay. The joke among the people at that time was "First we had King Elizabeth and now we have Queen James". Does any of this really matter?
 
Does this matter in the least? James 2 of England who commissioned the KJV translation of the bible was also gay. The joke among the people at that time was "First we had King Elizabeth and now we have Queen James". Does any of this really matter?
Naaah..... I don't think it's gonna work this time..... sorry. Nice try, though.:)
 
Does this matter in the least? James 2 of England who commissioned the KJV translation of the bible was also gay. The joke among the people at that time was "First we had King Elizabeth and now we have Queen James". Does any of this really matter?

I started the thread because someone used the term Hitler for those believers who could not accept the gay agenda... And yes I think its relates to how a society can turn to that like Germany when these sort of ungodly things are not resisted.
 
Does this matter in the least? James 2 of England who commissioned the KJV translation of the bible was also gay. The joke among the people at that time was "First we had King Elizabeth and now we have Queen James". Does any of this really matter?

Propaganda and shallow reasoning concerning King James,remember he had a lot of enemies.
 
Hitler was homosexual, new book says
WASHINGTON — A new book confirms what many serious students of the Hitler years have suspected all along: Der Fuhrer was a homosexual.
The only real surprise is that Lothar Machtan's book, "The Hidden Hitler" (Basic Books), marks the first time that a historian has dug deep enough into Hitler's personal life to document it.
Many people, hearing of this, might ask, "But what about that Eva Braun, his girlfriend?"
A "last, brilliant lie" is how Machtan describes Der Fuhrer's 1945 marriage to his consort Braun in the Berlin bunker shortly before killing himself and having his body burned. It was one of hundreds or thousands of evasions and lies he had used to cover up his sexual secret, hoping to take it to his funeral pyre.
Hitler's sexual preference, though long suspected, has been treated as a taboo by many solid biographers. Indeed, some have gone so far as to advance the preposterous notion that the German Demon had no private life; that he was a kind of "unperson."
Bremen University professor Machtan said in an interview that the book was an offshoot of research he did into Hitler's relationship with German elites and royalty, where homosexuality was commonplace during the '20s and '30s.
While studying the period, Machtan came across a 1949 memoir, "Roma Nazista", written by a close Hitler acquaintance, Eugen Dollmann. Dollmann "outed" Der Fuhrer in the very first chapter, saying he was one of few who "knew the most delicate secret in Hitler's life."
Strangely, however, Dollmann's book has been published only in Italian. This is not a subject the Germans evidently are interested in, even today.
"The Hidden Hitler" draws its evidence from many documents and recollections of documents, including remembrances written by a World War I German Army comrade, Hans Mend, describing Hitler and his constant friend, Ernst Schmidt, as "nancy-boys" who had been caught in flagrante delicto.
At the front in France, said Mend, Hitler's nickname was "crazy Adolf," and Mend described him as a "psychopath from the start."
So what difference does all this make? That will be the question asked by today's "liberated" American in an age of "don't ask, don't tell" sexual freedom.
Machtan, for his part, rejects any connection between Hitler's fiendish World War II depredations, including the Holocaust, and Der Fuhrer's efforts to hide his homosexuality. But certainly Hitler's inveterate secretiveness was part of the mix that made him the monster that he became.
For openers, Machtan writes that among Hitler's homosexual friends were some who were virulently anti-Semitic, notably the "aging bohemian" Dietrich Eckart, who had a great deal to do with forming Hitler's political thinking. And of course there is the famous Ernst Rohm, SA chief who Hitler ordered killed, along with many in Rohm's gay camarilla in the 1934 "Night of the Long Knives."
Misogynist-pederast Rohm, also a Jew-hater, was a key to Hitler's success, having taken him into the circle of the Freikorps when Hitler was, in the words of Gerhard Rossbach, "soft but wanting to be hard, semi-educated but wanting to be omniscient, a bohemian who had to become a soldier if he wanted to impress real soldiers. A man mistrustful of himself and his own abilities, and consequently, abrim with inferiority complexes."
It was Rohm, says "The Hidden Hitler," who taught Hitler "to reconcile a self-assured, masculine manner with homosexual tendencies."
Machtan believes, however, that Hitler's secret homosexuality "made it necessary that he struggle for absolute power." Once on the Fuhrer's throne, he could kill or buy off those who might blackmail him, which he did, in great detail.
Between June 30 and July 3, 1934, Hitler ordered the killings of Rohm and some 150 of his SA allies. Tellingly, at the time, Hitler aide Joseph Goebbels said that Rohm and his people "were on the point of exposing the entire leadership of the party to suspicions of shameful and loathsome sexual abnormality."
So Hitler's need to keep his "loathsome" secret may have driven him into his deep mental and spiritual diseases and his total megalomania.
 
I doubt that American homosexuals want the book published because it exposes the truth that some homosexuals have inferiority problems & develop superiority complexes to "compensate" like Hitler did. It also confirms & exposes the violence in the homosexual community.

The issue of Hitler being secretive about his lifestyle & covering up his homosexuality isn't the first time somebody famous did this. Show me any Hollywood actor that's the same way & I'll show you a closet homosexual.
 
no offense, but who cares whether Hitler was gay or not? I mean, don't we have more relevant things to ponder about? :confused: I know I do..
 
no offense, but who cares whether Hitler was gay or not? I mean, don't we have more relevant things to ponder about? :confused: I know I do..

Don't you wonder what causes a person or a society to embrace evil in the way hitler and the Nazis did...could we not learn some important things about the direction our own society is going in?

What kind of evil had to be in this man who may have been a antichrist ...He had 6 million jews killed ..clearly of biblical importance! besides that I like history and in context of what has happened in America of late, I think its very relevant.
 
The man was evil incarnate, that's all that matters.
He could have been a pussycat for all I care.

(and maybe he was... it's a well known fact cats are evil) :p

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The man was evil incarnate, that's all that matters.
He could have been a pussycat for all I care.

(and maybe he was... it's a well known fact cats are evil) :p

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I guess the question is what is evil? Does the bible tell us...I believe it does and I believe as a society goes further into sexual perversions these things we see in Hitler and his followers will also manifest in our society.
 
Don't you wonder what causes a person or a society to embrace evil in the way hitler and the Nazis did...could we not learn some important things about the direction our own society is going in?

What kind of evil had to be in this man who may have been a antichrist ...He had 6 million jews killed ..clearly of biblical importance! besides that I like history and in context of what has happened in America of late, I think its very relevant.


Hitler was definitely an anti-christ..no doubt about it.. Like didymos said, the man was evil incarnate. we know which god he served. :/ But even if he WAS gay, did that make him evil? I think not. If anything made him evil it was the mindset he had of taking over the world and being bigger than God. Kind of like the same thing Lucifer thought before he got kicked out of heaven. And we know how badly THAT worked for Lucifer.. :rolleyes:
 
Even if he were, he will never be known for how often he visited the gay clubs.
You could tell me that the guy was part dolphin and l wouldn't be any more shocked at how he lived and what he did.
He is one of the most famous "bad guys" in history.

Strange choice. This is Hitler we are talking about.

Was there a rainbow flag underneath that swastika band, who knows? Would it really matter at this point?
Serious question....you trying to connect homosexuality with psychopathic behavior?
 
He was just a frightening evil man.

If he was gay that would be least of his problems.

I suppose its kind of like wondering
Was Vlad the Impaler homosexual.

Ummm...I just dont even wanna know
 
Hitler was definitely an anti-christ..no doubt about it.. Like didymos said, the man was evil incarnate. we know which god he served. :/ But even if he WAS gay, did that make him evil? I think not. If anything made him evil it was the mindset he had of taking over the world and being bigger than God. Kind of like the same thing Lucifer thought before he got kicked out of heaven. And we know how badly THAT worked for Lucifer.. :rolleyes:
Do you think being gay is evil? Do you think one sin could open the door to other sins?
 
Even if he were, he will never be known for how often he visited the gay clubs.
You could tell me that the guy was part dolphin and l wouldn't be any more shocked at how he lived and what he did.
He is one of the most famous "bad guys" in history.

Strange choice. This is Hitler we are talking about.

Was there a rainbow flag underneath that swastika band, who knows? Would it really matter at this point?
Serious question....you trying to connect homosexuality with psychopathic behavior?

Im trying to connect sin to sin and I think the bible is rather clear that homosexual behavior is a sign of being in a reprobate condition....Even the liberal and gay journalist in the second post said he could see a clear relation between being gay and psychopathic behavior... I agree with the gay liberal on that point.
 
He was just a frightening evil man.

If he was gay that would be least of his problems.

I suppose its kind of like wondering
Was Vlad the Impaler homosexual.

Ummm...I just dont even wanna know

It appears not only he was gay but the whole Nazi movement started as a group of sexual deviants ...When they came to power, we know what happened.