Starnes: Refusing gay wedding customers costs Oregon bakery $135K

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Christian bakers fined $135,000 for refusing to make wedding cake for lesbians

The owners of a mom and pop bakery have just learned there is a significant price to pay for following their religious beliefs.

Aaron and Melissa Klein, the owners of Sweet Cakes By Melissa, have been ordered to pay $135,000 in damages to a lesbian couple after they refused to bake them a wedding cake in 2013.
Among Starnes' observations:

  • One of the women “felt depressed and questioned whether there was something inherently wrong with the sexual orientation she was born with.” They said she had “difficulty controlling her emotions and cried a lot.” The other experienced extreme anger, outrage, embarrassment, exhaustion, frustration, intense sorrow and shame” simply because the Kleins refused to provide them with a wedding cake. Jeez. That must have been one heck of a cake.
  • The five Klein children have been subject to death threats by LGBT activists.
  • Aaron Klein is defiant, saying the BOLI commissioner "has no power over me," "he thinks he can tell me to be quiet," "I refuse to comply."
  • Starnes concludes: "The Kleins had a choice. They could obey the government or they could obey God. They chose God – and now they must pay the price."
Oregon's Bureau of Labor and Industry (BOLI) apparently is intent on sending a message to Christian business owners: It is a human right to be served by a business, even though that's not what it says in the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, 42 U.S. Code § 2000bb–1 - Free exercise of religion protected, enacted by Congress under Bill Clinton. It allows for actions that would normally be considered violations of others' civil rights, unless such allowance is against a demonstrable and compelling government interest, and enforcement is the least restrictive means of furthering that interest.

The Kleins don't think the Oregon ruling meets that test. Neither do I. Let's take it to the Supreme Court, for all the good that will do.
 
When will the pressure on people to act against their God given conscience stop?
 
When will the pressure on people to act against their God given conscience stop?

I would also say it will stop when Christians stop falling to worldly arguments.

This is still a free country, but it will only remain free if people exercise their rights and actively walk with God. Bowing to the whims of totalitarians only leads to more bowing.
 
Homosexuals are purposely targeting Christian businesses as punishment because we don't agree with them about their lifestyle. It's also a form of bullying and intimidation for anybody who dares to disagree with them. They are wanting to frighten people into accepting their lifestyle.
 
The anti-Christ progressives murdered the older tolerance birthed in Christianized Western Civilization (see Dr. Rodney Stark's publications) and replaced it with a "new tolerance" they appropriated from their father the devil which opposes Holy Creator God and His Kingdom.

Historically, the abandonment of what Unwin termed "absolute monogamy" for a pro-homosexual culture always represents the start of what becomes that civilization's bottom. The end result, whether it takes mere years or a few centuries, is replacement.

Unfortunately, between the moral decline and replacement comes oppression and persecution. You will see these counterfeit "liberals" use the sexual immorality of homosexuality to oppose and persecute Christian people, Christian institutions, Christian businesses, and Christian organizations in the years ahead... something John Locke would never have advocated.

Though the rise, decay, and fall of civilizations has been consistent throughout human history, it's noteworthy that there is also a biblical end-times prophetic element involved in this present civilization's case.

Genuine Christians will do as we have always have when the people around us fall into great deception and immorality. Wash, rinse, repeat until the Lord's return.

מַה־שֶּֽׁהָיָה֙ ה֣וּא שֶׁיִּהְיֶ֔ה וּמַה־שֶּׁנַּֽעֲשָׂ֔ה ה֖וּא שֶׁיֵּעָשֶׂ֑ה וְאֵ֥ין כָּל־חָדָ֖שׁ תַּ֥חַת הַשָּֽׁמֶשׁ׃
 
Wash, rinse, repeat until the Lord's return.

מַה־שֶּֽׁהָיָה֙ ה֣וּא שֶׁיִּהְיֶ֔ה וּמַה־שֶּׁנַּֽעֲשָׂ֔ה ה֖וּא שֶׁיֵּעָשֶׂ֑ה וְאֵ֥ין כָּל־חָדָ֖שׁ תַּ֥חַת הַשָּֽׁמֶשׁ׃

Is that the English translation from the Hebrew?
 
No; however, it is Hebrew and renders in English per the often misunderstood "That which has been is that which will be, And that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun" from Ecclesiastes 1:9.


Wash, rinse, repeat until the Lord's return.

מַה־שֶּֽׁהָיָה֙ ה֣וּא שֶׁיִּהְיֶ֔ה וּמַה־שֶּׁנַּֽעֲשָׂ֔ה ה֖וּא שֶׁיֵּעָשֶׂ֑ה וְאֵ֥ין כָּל־חָדָ֖שׁ תַּ֥חַת הַשָּֽׁמֶשׁ׃

Is that the English translation from the Hebrew?
 
I heard there were dozen other bakers in the area...good grief and now a gag order on the couple.
Can't figure out if this is 1936 or 37.
 
I heard there were dozen other bakers in the area...good grief and now a gag order on the couple.
Can't figure out if this is 1936 or 37.
Maybe its Nazi Germany or Stalinism all over again.
 
Won't be too long until sexual orientation is moved into protected class status like race, sex, and age. It'll eventually be about the same as segregationists with their skewing of scripture (like Matthew 25:32) to justify not serving blacks. Everyone can see it on the horizon.
 
Won't be too long until sexual orientation is moved into protected class status like race, sex, and age. It'll eventually be about the same as segregationists with their skewing of scripture (like Matthew 25:32) to justify not serving blacks. Everyone can see it on the horizon.
Anything goes once the Rule Book is removed or redefined. :(
 
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http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0767917189

I heard there were dozen other bakers in the area...good grief and now a gag order on the couple.
Can't figure out if this is 1936 or 37.
 
Make the cake...but add a bible scripture as part of your brand name that has to be on every cake you sell
 
Won't be too long until sexual orientation is moved into protected class status like race, sex, and age. It'll eventually be about the same as segregationists with their skewing of scripture (like Matthew 25:32) to justify not serving blacks. Everyone can see it on the horizon.

That's exactly what happened the other day in the supreme court...its now illegal to not approve homosexuals in a public way.
 
Make the cake...but add a bible scripture as part of your brand name that has to be on every cake you sell

That's exactly what happened the other day in the supreme court...its now illegal to not approve homosexuals in a public way.
Yeah, they'd probably get sued for offending their tender consciense with that scripture verse.
 
Homosexuals are purposely targeting Christian businesses as punishment because we don't agree with them about their lifestyle. It's also a form of bullying and intimidation for anybody who dares to disagree with them. They are wanting to frighten people into accepting their lifestyle.
The only way around some things is to be non-profit, if Christians are in the bed and breakfast business then remove double beds and replace with single beds.



from the article,

“This case is not about a wedding cake or a marriage,” the final order read. “It is about a business’s refusal to serve someone because of their sexual orientation. Under Oregon law, that is illegal.”
 
from the article,

“This case is not about a wedding cake or a marriage,” the final order read. “It is about a business’s refusal to serve someone because of their sexual orientation. Under Oregon law, that is illegal.”
Isn't the case about refusing to serve someone due to conscience sake based on convictions of faith?

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By Todd Starnes

Published July 03, 2015

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The owners of a mom and pop bakery have just learned there is a significant price to pay for following their religious beliefs.

Aaron and Melissa Klein, the owners of Sweet Cakes By Melissa, have been ordered to pay $135,000 in damages to a lesbian couple after they refused to bake them a wedding cake in 2013.

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The Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industry (BOLI)awarded $60,000 to Laurel Bowman-Cryer and $75,000 in damages to Rachel Bowman-Cryer for “emotional suffering.”

“This case is not about a wedding cake or a marriage,” the final order read. “It is about a business’s refusal to serve someone because of their sexual orientation. Under Oregon law, that is illegal.”

According to the BOLI, the lesbian couple suffered great angst. One of the women “felt depressed and questioned whether there was something inherently wrong with the sexual orientation she was born with.” They said she had “difficulty controlling her emotions and cried a lot.”

The other woman “experienced extreme anger, outrage, embarrassment, exhaustion, frustration, intense sorrow and shame” simply because the Kleins refused to provide them with a wedding cake.

Jeez. That must have been one heck of a cake.

It sounds as if the state of Oregon is sending a stern warning to Christian business owners like the Kleins.

“Within Oregon’s public accommodations law is the basic principle of human decency that every person, regardless of their sexual orientation, has the freedom to fully participate in society,” the ruling states. “The ability to enter public places, to shop and dine, to move about unfettered by bigotry.”

Does The Bureau of Labor and Industry truly believe that Christians who want to follow the teachings of their faith are bigots?

It certainly seems to me the only entity guilty of unfettered bigotry is the Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industry.

Since the day they turned away the lesbian couple’s business, the Kleins have suffered greatly. Their business was subjected to boycotts and pickets. LGBT activists and their supporters threatened any wedding vendor that did business with Sweet Cakes By Melissa.

Mrs. Klein told me her five children were subjected to death threats -- death threats for simply refusing to participate in a same-sex wedding. That doesn’t sound very tolerant to me.

Eventually, the bullying became so severe the family had to shut down their retail store and Mr. Klein had to take a job picking up garbage. Today, Mrs. Klein continues to make cakes in her home.

“We were just running our business the best we could – following the Lord’s example,” she said. “I’m just blown away by the ruling. They are punishing us for not participating in the wedding.”
 
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Make the cake...but add a bible scripture as part of your brand name that has to be on every cake you sell

I like that idea... do like In N Out burger and put a verse on every cup, burger package, fries package etc... Just stamp it on the back of each cake and if they don't like it tough lol.