The flood and the nephilim

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Graybeard

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Lol, I wonder how many times God had to do a /facepalm reading through this. Interesting ideas and postulations, though.
maybe so..lol..or maybe He says "now that's faith!"
 
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Graybeard

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Sons of God were Sethites.

The story is told in the "Book of Adam and Eve" and the "Book of Cave Treasures"
I found the Book of Adam and Eve on the internet as I have never heard of it......interesting reading I must say...but where did these writings come from, from what age are they?...how authenticated are they because some of it appears to contradict Genesis...are they to be taken seriously?
BTW I see now where you you get some of your beliefs:)
 
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No..I'm saying there COULD be sex, we don't know. Fornication is confined to us humans here on Earth, how do we know that in Heaven it is not because we are free from the confines of human nature/limitations...don't get me wrong, this is not what I believe..lol....but we are so caught up in our three dimensional world that we cannot even imagine what it is like to be in our glorified bodies without sin and living with God who has no limits.
For all we know God could say to us in the age to come..."okay now go and multiply and fill the universe! lol
Why do I suddenly have a mental image of a heavenly hippie camp?
 
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Miktre - it figures that there were giant humans. Afterall there were giant kangaroos, wasps, dragonflies, wombats, everything was super-sized. That explains why Adam and Eve never had to climb a tree to get its fruit. And how Adam's rib was big enough that God could create another person out of it.
 
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Miktre - it figures that there were giant humans. Afterall there were giant kangaroos, wasps, dragonflies, wombats, everything was super-sized. That explains why Adam and Eve never had to climb a tree to get its fruit. And how Adam's rib was big enough that God could create another person out of it.
they never had to climb a tree because of they height, wow and the whole time I thought they trained the serpent to fetch their fruit for them!!
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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I found the Book of Adam and Eve on the internet as I have never heard of it......interesting reading I must say...but where did these writings come from, from what age are they?...how authenticated are they because some of it appears to contradict Genesis...are they to be taken seriously?
BTW I see now where you you get some of your beliefs:)
There are a number of translations I would reccommend they be edited by Rutherford H. Platt, Jr.

These book are apocryphal also known as 'The Forgotten Books of Eden', because these books were hidden for centuries and this was because the Church accepted some books and rejected others, I believe that Christians, can make up their own mind with the help of the Holy Spirit to discern whether part or all of these books are inspired, there are many Christians who are believers in the authenticity of these scriptures.
 
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Slepsog4

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There are NO missing books of the Bible. God superintended the preservation of His Word.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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No..I'm saying there COULD be sex, we don't know. Fornication is confined to us humans here on Earth, how do we know that in Heaven it is not because we are free from the confines of human nature/limitations...don't get me wrong, this is not what I believe..lol....but we are so caught up in our three dimensional world that we cannot even imagine what it is like to be in our glorified bodies without sin and living with God who has no limits.
For all we know God could say to us in the age to come..."okay now go and multiply and fill the universe! lol
But the moment that we interpret this to be fallen angels, allowing them to have sex with women, doesn't that become fornication. If it is fornication because the angel can't marry the women, but it isn't formication if it's angel-angel, then does thqat mean that they do marry or what? And if there is such a thing as angelic male and female, then why didn't the Daughters of God mate with the Sons of men. It becomes a intellectual mess. lol
 
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SeekinHIM

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WOW THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE TOPICS TO DISCUSS................I HAVE STUDIED EXTENSIVELY ON THE NEPHILIM AND NOAH AND THE FLOOD:

First of all: When Adam and Eve FELL, WHEN THEY ATE THE FRUIT AND DIED SPIRITUALLY, GOD said a very interesting thing to Adam, Eve, and the Serpent----HE said to the Serpent"HE SHALL BRUISE YOUR HEAD, YOU SHALL BRUISE HIS HEEL...............This is a direct reference to the lineage of JESUS CHRIST, AND THE FUTURE OF THE HUMAN RACE..............The reason in Genesis ch. 6 that the Nephilim appeared at this point, was to GENETICALLY CHANGE OR ALTER THE RACE, SO AS TO THWART THE ARRIVAL OF JESUS CHRIST.............REMEMBER IN THE GOSPEL OF JOHN ch.1 verse 1- It states, In the Beginning was THE WORD............This is a direct reference to JESUS CHRIST, and Satan was there in Heaven then, he was called Lucifer- he was the worship leader FOR ALL THE ANGELS.... before the THRONE OF YAWEH - FATHER GOD. So Satan knew YAHWEH HAD A PLAN TO RESCUE MAN RIGHT FROM THE START............

Second: To clear up a few points here, during Noah's day the "CANOPY" covered the Earth..........This is very similar to what we see when we look at Jupiter today. Scientists state that Jupiter is a "GASEOUS GIANT". This is similar to OUR EARTH in the days of Noah. The Earth was surrounded by a thick gaseous cloud, yet sunlight could penetrate it without any problem, but NOTHING LIKE TODAY, with the UV RAYS, AND GAMMA RAYS we hear so much about.

Why do you think REDWOOD TREES ARE SO BIG......WHY DO YOU THINK DINOSAURS WERE SO BIG, WHY DO YOU THINK BLUE WHALES ARE SO BIG............LET'S TAKE A CLOSER LOOK......THIS IS WHY THE NEPHILIM WERE SO BIG ALSO..............GIANTS IN THOSE DAYS.............

The Canopy which surrounded the Earth, caused the atmospheric pressure to be approximately 26 pounds per square inch, which increased the oxygenation of all things UNTIL IT ALMOST reached SATURATION POINT..............MEANING.......MEN AND WOMEN LIVED TO VERY OLD AGE........They were all DEEP BREATHERS, using the fullness of capacity of their lungs.........Also, because of the ALMOST PURE OXYGEN LEVELS, THE EARTH WAS ALMOST ENTIRELY VOID OF ALL FERMENTATION.................JUST READ THE FIRST 5 CHAPTERS OF GENESIS.........ONLY CAIN DIED AT A VERY YOUNG AGE AND OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE HE WAS KILLED..................EVERY ONE ELSE LIVED LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF YEARS...........

FOR EXAMPLE:

NOAH--- 930 YEARS OLD
METHUSALAH---969 YEARS OLD
KENAN ---910 YEARS OLD
JARED (THE FATHER OF ENOCH) LIVED 962 YEARS OLD
LAMECH---777 YEARS OLD AND WAS THE FATHER OF NOAH................

Now when you read of the very first events that occurred AFTER THE FLOOD, one of the very first things that Noah did was grow a vineyard, he made WINE AND GOT DRUNK......................THAT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE THE FLOOD BECAUSE WINE COULD NOT BE MADE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO FERMENTATION, WINE ONLY OCCURS BECAUSE OUR ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURIZATION OF OXYGEN IS NOW ONLY ABOUT 12 LBS/ PER SQARE INCH........

IMMEDIATELY THE AGE OF MEN (AND WOMEN) DROPPED DRAMATICALLY.........BY ABRAHAM'S TIME (JUST A FEW CHAPTERS AFTER THE FLOOD) THE LIFESPAN DROPPED TO 175 YEARS OLD...........BECAUSE THE OXYGENATION LEVELS WERE TOTALLY CHANGED AFTER THE CANOPY FELL TO THE EARTH DURING THE FLOOD, AND YES, IT COVERED THE ENTIRE EARTH...............STUDIES BY VARIOUS UNIVERSITIES CONCLUDED THIS LONG AGO, THEY TESTED CORE SAMPLES ON EACH OF THE 7 CONTINENTS, AND AT APPROXIMATELY THE SAME DEPTH, THERE IS A DEEP LAYER OF CLAY...........CONSISTENT WITH A CATASTROPHIC FLOOD COVERING THE EARTH...............NOT LOCALIZED AS SOME BELIEVE, BESIDES IF GOD SAID IT COVERED THE WHOLE EARTH, COULD THERE BE ANY DOUBT................REMEMBER HE DOES NOT LIE!!!

PRESENT DAY PROOF OF THESE TRUTHS................JUST ASK A DOCTOR THIS, THE NEXT TIME YOU VISIT HIM / HER...............IF MY BODY IS FLOODED WITH OXYGEN, CAN DISEASE FORM??? IF HE IS TRULY SERVING YOUR BEST INTEREST AND ISN'T "BOUGHT" BY BIG PHARMA.........HE WILL NO DOUBT SAY ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! DISEASE CANNOT FORM IN AN OXYGEN RICH ENVIRONMENT, FERMENTATION CAUSES DISEASE........AND ULTIMATELY DEATH. CANCER LIVES AND THRIVES ON SUGARS----BREAKS THEM DOWN THROUGH THE FERMEMTATION PROCESS, WHICH FORCES OUT OXYGEN AND THIS CAUSES CANCER TO THRIVE TO THE POINT OF TAKING OVER THEIR HOST.................WHY DO YOU THINK MANY SMOKERS DIE, BECAUSE THEIR BODIES ARE VOID OF OXYGEN, WHICH CAUSES FERMENTATION IN THE LUNGS, CAUSING CANCERS TO FORM! AND MUCH OF OUR FOODS TODAY ARE PRE-PACKAGED, PROCESSED FOODS, THAT ARE VOID OF OXYGEN---- THIS IS WHY CANCER IS ALMOST THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF DEATH, ALMOST BEATING OUT HEART DISEASE................

SeekinHIM
 
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miktre

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Hollywood to this day glamorizes relations between angels and women.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zSG_oVliis[/video]​
 
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Yes and sexual relationships between spirits and humans is in the occult...but the thing is, how on earth can a spirit let alone an angel produce offspring? And here's an even scarier thought - why would God even create it to be possible?
 
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Lad

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meh angels and transform themselves to humans, lyk they did with abram and sarai. but mebbe, just mebbe, the angels continued to have relations after the flood? just a thought...
 
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charisenexcelcis

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Numbers 13:33 links the Nephilim with the sons of Anak, the Raphahim, of which were the giants of Gath, Goliath being the most famous.
 
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Harley_Angel

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WOW THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE TOPICS TO DISCUSS................I HAVE STUDIED EXTENSIVELY ON THE NEPHILIM AND NOAH AND THE FLOOD:

First of all: When Adam and Eve FELL, WHEN THEY ATE THE FRUIT AND DIED SPIRITUALLY, GOD said a very interesting thing to Adam, Eve, and the Serpent----HE said to the Serpent"HE SHALL BRUISE YOUR HEAD, YOU SHALL BRUISE HIS HEEL...............This is a direct reference to the lineage of JESUS CHRIST, AND THE FUTURE OF THE HUMAN RACE..............The reason in Genesis ch. 6 that the Nephilim appeared at this point, was to GENETICALLY CHANGE OR ALTER THE RACE, SO AS TO THWART THE ARRIVAL OF JESUS CHRIST.............REMEMBER IN THE GOSPEL OF JOHN ch.1 verse 1- It states, In the Beginning was THE WORD............This is a direct reference to JESUS CHRIST, and Satan was there in Heaven then, he was called Lucifer- he was the worship leader FOR ALL THE ANGELS.... before the THRONE OF YAWEH - FATHER GOD. So Satan knew YAHWEH HAD A PLAN TO RESCUE MAN RIGHT FROM THE START............

Second: To clear up a few points here, during Noah's day the "CANOPY" covered the Earth..........This is very similar to what we see when we look at Jupiter today. Scientists state that Jupiter is a "GASEOUS GIANT". This is similar to OUR EARTH in the days of Noah. The Earth was surrounded by a thick gaseous cloud, yet sunlight could penetrate it without any problem, but NOTHING LIKE TODAY, with the UV RAYS, AND GAMMA RAYS we hear so much about.

Why do you think REDWOOD TREES ARE SO BIG......WHY DO YOU THINK DINOSAURS WERE SO BIG, WHY DO YOU THINK BLUE WHALES ARE SO BIG............LET'S TAKE A CLOSER LOOK......THIS IS WHY THE NEPHILIM WERE SO BIG ALSO..............GIANTS IN THOSE DAYS.............

The Canopy which surrounded the Earth, caused the atmospheric pressure to be approximately 26 pounds per square inch, which increased the oxygenation of all things UNTIL IT ALMOST reached SATURATION POINT..............MEANING.......MEN AND WOMEN LIVED TO VERY OLD AGE........They were all DEEP BREATHERS, using the fullness of capacity of their lungs.........Also, because of the ALMOST PURE OXYGEN LEVELS, THE EARTH WAS ALMOST ENTIRELY VOID OF ALL FERMENTATION.................JUST READ THE FIRST 5 CHAPTERS OF GENESIS.........ONLY CAIN DIED AT A VERY YOUNG AGE AND OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE HE WAS KILLED..................EVERY ONE ELSE LIVED LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF YEARS...........

FOR EXAMPLE:

NOAH--- 930 YEARS OLD
METHUSALAH---969 YEARS OLD
KENAN ---910 YEARS OLD
JARED (THE FATHER OF ENOCH) LIVED 962 YEARS OLD
LAMECH---777 YEARS OLD AND WAS THE FATHER OF NOAH................

Now when you read of the very first events that occurred AFTER THE FLOOD, one of the very first things that Noah did was grow a vineyard, he made WINE AND GOT DRUNK......................THAT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE THE FLOOD BECAUSE WINE COULD NOT BE MADE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO FERMENTATION, WINE ONLY OCCURS BECAUSE OUR ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURIZATION OF OXYGEN IS NOW ONLY ABOUT 12 LBS/ PER SQARE INCH........

IMMEDIATELY THE AGE OF MEN (AND WOMEN) DROPPED DRAMATICALLY.........BY ABRAHAM'S TIME (JUST A FEW CHAPTERS AFTER THE FLOOD) THE LIFESPAN DROPPED TO 175 YEARS OLD...........BECAUSE THE OXYGENATION LEVELS WERE TOTALLY CHANGED AFTER THE CANOPY FELL TO THE EARTH DURING THE FLOOD, AND YES, IT COVERED THE ENTIRE EARTH...............STUDIES BY VARIOUS UNIVERSITIES CONCLUDED THIS LONG AGO, THEY TESTED CORE SAMPLES ON EACH OF THE 7 CONTINENTS, AND AT APPROXIMATELY THE SAME DEPTH, THERE IS A DEEP LAYER OF CLAY...........CONSISTENT WITH A CATASTROPHIC FLOOD COVERING THE EARTH...............NOT LOCALIZED AS SOME BELIEVE, BESIDES IF GOD SAID IT COVERED THE WHOLE EARTH, COULD THERE BE ANY DOUBT................REMEMBER HE DOES NOT LIE!!!

PRESENT DAY PROOF OF THESE TRUTHS................JUST ASK A DOCTOR THIS, THE NEXT TIME YOU VISIT HIM / HER...............IF MY BODY IS FLOODED WITH OXYGEN, CAN DISEASE FORM??? IF HE IS TRULY SERVING YOUR BEST INTEREST AND ISN'T "BOUGHT" BY BIG PHARMA.........HE WILL NO DOUBT SAY ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! DISEASE CANNOT FORM IN AN OXYGEN RICH ENVIRONMENT, FERMENTATION CAUSES DISEASE........AND ULTIMATELY DEATH. CANCER LIVES AND THRIVES ON SUGARS----BREAKS THEM DOWN THROUGH THE FERMEMTATION PROCESS, WHICH FORCES OUT OXYGEN AND THIS CAUSES CANCER TO THRIVE TO THE POINT OF TAKING OVER THEIR HOST.................WHY DO YOU THINK MANY SMOKERS DIE, BECAUSE THEIR BODIES ARE VOID OF OXYGEN, WHICH CAUSES FERMENTATION IN THE LUNGS, CAUSING CANCERS TO FORM! AND MUCH OF OUR FOODS TODAY ARE PRE-PACKAGED, PROCESSED FOODS, THAT ARE VOID OF OXYGEN---- THIS IS WHY CANCER IS ALMOST THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF DEATH, ALMOST BEATING OUT HEART DISEASE................

SeekinHIM
Wow, that was REALLY interesting! This actually makes me want to do some research into it. Now, could you expand a bit more on this gaseous canopy? Where is evidence of it? I know that our atmosphere has changed a lot, especially with all of our tampering and pollution. Skin cancer was all but unheard of in the middle ages and not a single one of them had sunscreen!

Anyway, thank you for your post, that was really neat to read.
 
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miktre

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Yes and sexual relationships between spirits and humans is in the occult...but the thing is, how on earth can a spirit let alone an angel produce offspring? And here's an even scarier thought - why would God even create it to be possible?
Snail I think these videos will help you understand, they did me.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPy5PVSNFAs[/video]

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28Y3W5tSGiA[/video]
 
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Graybeard

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Numbers 13:33 links the Nephilim with the sons of Anak, the Raphahim, of which were the giants of Gath, Goliath being the most famous.
So Anak was the descendant of Arba, who was Arba's farther...where did these people come from?
 

Sharp

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Genesis 19

Two angels came to Lot in Sodom

The people in Sodom wanted to have sex with them.

Sex between angels and humans appears to be possible.
 
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Harley_Angel

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Well, maybe not Sharp. They wanted to RAPE them. You can rape a person in many different ways other than intercourse. Besides, they were all men, and if I remember right the angels came disguised as men, too. Wanting to do the naughty no pants dance with something and actually being able to do it are two different things (think people who have a thing for trees, or socks, or like cookie jars or something....you knw they are out there)
 
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