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Aedin

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Hey all, I'm new to this message board, and I'm not well-known here, but it was the only place I could think of to come ask for advice. There's a girl I really like, and we're pretty serious. She really likes me too. The only thing is, she's had some sexual experiences before (I post this in the singles forum because I couldn't find a relationship board, sorry if this is the wrong place to put this) and it really hurts me. We're both Christians, and I've been praying to God to bless our friendship and relationship, and to help us know if we're the people he has planned for each other, and what she did just really hurts me, and I'm having a hard time figuring out how I'm gonna forgive her. I want to be with her, I don't want her past mistakes to ruin things with us, but I'm just finding it really hard to forgive her.
 
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I assume she did these things as a christian. If it bothers you so much, perhaps a relationship with her is not the best thing. These sorts of issues can cause cracks to appear in the relationship later on if they are not resolved. I mean no disrespect by this but why go with "second-hand goods" ? , particularly if you have made sexual purity an important thing in your life. And is her behavior warning signs of potential trouble that could occur in the future if you continue the relationship further? eg marriage.
 
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Aedin

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Thank you. I've talked to her about it some and found out some more details, and it's getting a little easier to get over and forgive her for. I can't say much about it, since I don't know if she'd want me to give details of her life out to people, but I found out some stuff that makes it easier to forgive her.
 
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Jessiemusical

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I do agree with MahogonySnail (sorry, don't know your name)...I believe (and been told so too) that when you have been saving yourself until marriage, God will give you someone that has also done the same....so I think that you should pray to God about this :)
 
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Jaykay104

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Mahoganysnail - "second hand goods"? Come on dude, a bit much huh? All have sinned and fallen short, I don't think Jesus minded to much about you being second hand goods youself did He?

Aedin - Forgiveness was the greatest thing that ever happened to us. I've known of Pastors whose wives have cheated on them, and after alot of councelling they are still together. Have you asked how she feels about this whole thing? I can tell you that living with that guilt is heavy, and maybe God has put you to a test? Don't let your own judgements get in the way man.

And if she did it before you were in a relationship, I don't think you have the right to "forgive" her.
 
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carpetmanswife

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when i find myself struggling with forgiveness it helps me when i think of things that others and God has forgiven me for. Somehow when i do that and really reflect back its becomes easier to forgive others
 
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consider lightening up....I am sure that you have done...or have habits that annoy or bother her....how would you feel if someone dropped the ax on a relationship because of something that you have no more control of??? Ppl make mistakes...its life
 
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easygoing

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Look at it this way. If we judged every person and held grudges on the things that they had done in the past then none of us would be worthy of anything good. All of us have made mistakes in our past and will continue to make mistakes in the future as well. Don't be too quick to pass judgment because you are not perfect either.
 
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vaz

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Personally MahogonySnail i believe you are being very harsh when you are calling this woman "second hand goods" because we are all second hand goods!!! but back to the subject at hand. She may have done it as a Christian and big deal and she my have not if you like this girl and want to give it a shot then you have to try, God will talk to you the entire time and youll know if it isnt right!!!
 
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"second hand goods", I think you know what I meant, in this particular case. We are all sinners. But fornication is not something a christian should do. For a start, they have the power of God to help them overcome it, secondly they have self control, it's a fruit of the Spirit. Frankly if a person makes sexual purity a priority in their life why should they be expected to stick around with someone who couldn't care about sexual purity. Now I know the reputation of some church's youth groups that think they can go at it like rabbits and still call themself a christian, but fornication is one of the sins that can keep a person out of heaven. But you all call it a "mistake" .
 
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vaz

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Here as a christian i have been not the best but i am still a virgin and i dont believe in sex before marriage and that has been tested and traied many times. and even as a christian my view of sex before marriage changed some of my best friends are christians and have had sex before marriage and still do im not saying its right but you cant judge a person on facts you dont know
 
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there are some facts we do know,
1. God says it is wrong.
2. Christians shouldn't do it. You'd have to question whether they are christian if they don't see a problem with it and live in sin.
3. Fornicators won't inherit the kingdom of God.

and the bible talks about correcting our bro/sis in Christ when we see them commit a sin.
 
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vaz

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i still maintian u have no right to judge this girl!
 
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Kyra

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Honestly, to the person who posted, it sounds like you have gotten help with your problem, that you have found some help in forgiving her. Props to you. I hope things work out for the best.

And to those who condemn people who have repented, romans 8:1 There is no condemnation for those who are under Christ Jesus.





 
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The fact is we can judge between right and wrong Vaz. As a christian if another christian is living in sin as you say your friends are Vaz, they shouldn't be, and we shouldn't be close friends with anyone who calls themselves christian but their lifestyle is not Christ-like. If they have repented of course that is a different issue. I personally wouldn't go with someone who has a problem with self control, period, whether it is sex, or finances, they are the biggest things that can destroy relationships. It's just not worth it in the end.
 
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KristenNicole777

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Hey I just stumbled upon this and felt i needed to share something. To the poster or whoever decided to read.
I myself am a virgin, but my Fiancee is not. Now granted he wasnt wholly saved when he made his mistakes and choices to sleep with the women he was with, and going into our relationship I knew he wasnt a virgin, but didnt know the details of his past, only in the last year (and weve been together almost 2 years) have i gotten to fully know about his past experiences. Some of it was hard to hear, but God reminded me, He has forgiven me from alot of things and He has forgiven my fiancee, who am I to judge him. When i was younger i did pray for God to send me a husband who was going to be a virgin as i was, but it didnt happen that way, not saying it could not have, it just didnt. I knew I was supposed to marry this person 3 weeks after meeting him and 9-10 months before we even began dating, God told me in a dream he was to be my husband. So i know God chose us to be together. We do all make mistakes and no matter how big the mistake that person deserves forgiveness.. The only other option is to choose not to be in that relationship if it is that much of a bother, but forgiveness is something God desires from us all. AND I will even go farther and tell something very personal on the note of forgiveness and sexual sin. Just recently (in the last year) my fiancee got caught in a version of sexual sin that caused him and I some major problems, so much so we are still going through it. We even had to postpone our wedding because of it, the incident happened one month before our wedding date, so tell me how bad of a shock that was. This sin was something he had been struggling with for years and felt he almost had it under control, but he didnt, and when he got caught it put a strain on alot of people, because it became public knowledge, you know the verse where it is said if you keep hiding something God will bring it to the surface, well this was brought to the surface, not only was I hurt by him, i had to hear about it from everyone we knew, in fact i had to leave where i lived for about 2 weeks and went to stay with my mom just to be away from people. It was hard and harsh, here was the man I chose to marry, that God put in my life doing this and hurting me like this, I had a major choice. But even upon hearing what happened, even in the 1st 5 minutes i knew i could not leave him, God gave me a peace and said, you have to forigive him and stay by his side, he is going to need you through this battle, you are going to be a major part of the puzzle that puts him back together, i know you are hurt, but i chose him for you because i knew you could handle this... God never gives us more than we can bear... It was hard and we are still struggling, he still has thoughts of what took place but he has been in counseling and doing so much better, he is back working with our church, the pastor has worked with him and i am just very proud of him and i love him veery much. I dont know why i shared all this but i just felt the need to. No matter how bad things can get if you believe that God brought this person to you, God already knows what is going to take place even if we dont. Our job is to love honr cherish, forgive and help our significant others and spouses make it thorugh when they have an issiue, stand by thier side and encaourage them. Just think if the show was on the other foot, wouldnt you want them to stand by you? wouldnt you think, yes i made a mistake but I know we can fix it? Wouldnt you want a second chance? I hope ive not offended anyone but just think about it.
God Bless
 
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Aedin

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Thank you all. And thank you KristenNicole, it's nice to hear about someone who just knew the person they were supposed to be with. She and I feel like we're supposed to be together as well, and I keep praying to God about it, and it just feels like there's a lot that fits, and a lot that says we're supposed to be together, so it's nice to hear about someone in a similar situation like that.
 
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KristenNicole777

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I just felt like God wanted me to share my struggles with you. I will tell you sometimes it is not easy but God will get you through if He put you both together. He has a reason for the things that he does. My fiancee and i are still working through things but we know God chose us to be together. The incident that happened between us was a major test of my devotion and love for him...it hurt, i was very hurt, but i knew what God told me and i stood by my fiancee and God is doing awesome things in our life right now. Just keep beliving in what you know God is telling you and has told you
God Bless
 

Godsrocker

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one question did she do this when u two where together? or was it before u got together and she is not second hand goods if she did what she did before she started seeing u then well what do u hve to forgive her for? on the other hand if she did cheat on u then maybe u should just keep on pray for the her and just take it slow and see if u can trust her again
 

olivetree32

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Hey I just stumbled upon this and felt i needed to share something. To the poster or whoever decided to read.
I myself am a virgin, but my Fiancee is not. Now granted he wasnt wholly saved when he made his mistakes and choices to sleep with the women he was with, and going into our relationship I knew he wasnt a virgin, but didnt know the details of his past, only in the last year (and weve been together almost 2 years) have i gotten to fully know about his past experiences. Some of it was hard to hear, but God reminded me, He has forgiven me from alot of things and He has forgiven my fiancee, who am I to judge him. When i was younger i did pray for God to send me a husband who was going to be a virgin as i was, but it didnt happen that way, not saying it could not have, it just didnt. I knew I was supposed to marry this person 3 weeks after meeting him and 9-10 months before we even began dating, God told me in a dream he was to be my husband. So i know God chose us to be together. We do all make mistakes and no matter how big the mistake that person deserves forgiveness.. The only other option is to choose not to be in that relationship if it is that much of a bother, but forgiveness is something God desires from us all. AND I will even go farther and tell something very personal on the note of forgiveness and sexual sin. Just recently (in the last year) my fiancee got caught in a version of sexual sin that caused him and I some major problems, so much so we are still going through it. We even had to postpone our wedding because of it, the incident happened one month before our wedding date, so tell me how bad of a shock that was. This sin was something he had been struggling with for years and felt he almost had it under control, but he didnt, and when he got caught it put a strain on alot of people, because it became public knowledge, you know the verse where it is said if you keep hiding something God will bring it to the surface, well this was brought to the surface, not only was I hurt by him, i had to hear about it from everyone we knew, in fact i had to leave where i lived for about 2 weeks and went to stay with my mom just to be away from people. It was hard and harsh, here was the man I chose to marry, that God put in my life doing this and hurting me like this, I had a major choice. But even upon hearing what happened, even in the 1st 5 minutes i knew i could not leave him, God gave me a peace and said, you have to forigive him and stay by his side, he is going to need you through this battle, you are going to be a major part of the puzzle that puts him back together, i know you are hurt, but i chose him for you because i knew you could handle this... God never gives us more than we can bear... It was hard and we are still struggling, he still has thoughts of what took place but he has been in counseling and doing so much better, he is back working with our church, the pastor has worked with him and i am just very proud of him and i love him veery much. I dont know why i shared all this but i just felt the need to. No matter how bad things can get if you believe that God brought this person to you, God already knows what is going to take place even if we dont. Our job is to love honr cherish, forgive and help our significant others and spouses make it thorugh when they have an issiue, stand by thier side and encaourage them. Just think if the show was on the other foot, wouldnt you want them to stand by you? wouldnt you think, yes i made a mistake but I know we can fix it? Wouldnt you want a second chance? I hope ive not offended anyone but just think about it.
God Bless
sister i really think your posts are a blessing from God. thanks for sharing with everyone.
love you!
olivetree32