Don't Mix law & Grace

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No I am putting across what the bible says is truth, and then it falls on those who hear what the bible says to believe it or not.

Then you state that none of really have the truth, but once again the bible refutes that thinking as well because it says multiple times the Holy Spirit will guide us in all truth. To say none of has the truth is saying the Holy Spirit is not doing His job to keep us in the Truth of the Lord, but the bible says He will do just that; Keep us in the truth of the word, and help guide us away from iniquity so that we no longer live sinful unfruitful lives !!!
You can read my posts and see that I do not operate in love (thus don't have THE truth). And, I can read your posts and see that you do not operate in love (thus don't have THE truth).
 
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You can read my posts and see that I do not operate in love (thus don't have THE truth). And, I can read your posts and see that you do not operate in love (thus don't have THE truth).

Once again that is your opinion and not the truth !!!

1) Do I defend all of Gods word out of love for my Lord and Savior ? Yes

2) Do I preach warnings of continuing in sin as Paul did because out of love I do not wish to see any perish ? Yes

3) Do I give the scriptures in the Word that are God's truth, so by love others can see this as well ? Yes

If you do not like what I have to say when I am giving you the scriptures from the bible, go and read them for yourself and pray to God over them to give you understanding. Because I understand that you do not want to take it from me, but please I ask out of love do not deny the true words of the Lord !!!
 
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Once again that is your opinion and not the truth !!!

1) Do I defend all of Gods word out of love for my Lord and Savior ? Yes

2) Do I preach warnings of continuing in sin as Paul did because out of love I do not wish to see any perish ? Yes

3) Do I give the scriptures in the Word that are God's truth, so by love others can see this as well ? Yes

If you do not like what I have to say when I am giving you the scriptures from the bible, go and read them for yourself and pray to God over them to give you understanding. Because I understand that you do not want to take it from me, but please I ask out of love do not deny the true words of the Lord !!!
You speak the truth.
"Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord." (Leviticus 19:17-18)

"Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked." (Deuteronomy 10:16)

"And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:" (Colossians 2:10-11)
 
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Romans 3:31
Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

James 2:14-24
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your[a] works, and I will show you my faith by my[b] works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?[c] 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”[d] And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.




 
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Romans 3:31
Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

James 2:14-24
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your[a] works, and I will show you my faith by my[b] works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?[c] 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”[d] And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.





Yes and this is all summed up by;

"You shall love your neighbor as yourself"

Romans 13:10
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
 
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Mathew 4:4
Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"

2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

Luke 16:17
But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void.

1 Peter 1:24
For, "All people are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord endures forever." And this is the word that was preached to you.

Mathew 5:18-20
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Mathew 23:2-3
The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.


 
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I can believe that, because there doesn't seem to be much you see except what you choose to.
smh......I can see that she sees things VERY clearly here! I see the same things. It is so very sad that you and everyone else that has fallen for this unsaved mans heresy and do not SEE! The good news is that if you are truly searching Gods spirit can lead you back onto a path of TRUTH.

Oh and btw: Just so you know, I am speaking in love and not hate. The truth shall set you free
 
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This is so true. It is almost ALWAYS just our arrogant assumption that only OUR interpretations can possibly be correct...... and we are going to shove them down other people's throats no matter what.

(Sounds a little like The Crusades and The Inquisitions.)

Shoving down throats? LOL Id say posting a link to joseph prince HERESY and neglecting to tell people who it is to begin with is underhanded and not being forthright! :) But I suppose that I wouldnt tell people who the link portrayed either if I was propagating heresy! Its not arrogant and its not assumption when one is putting forth truth ie BIBLE TRUTH. You just see it that way because your flesh desires to cling to a heretics teaching. I personally do not want my ears tickled but then thats just me
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Once again that is your opinion and not the truth !!!

1) Do I defend all of Gods word out of love for my Lord and Savior ? Yes

2) Do I preach warnings of continuing in sin as Paul did because out of love I do not wish to see any perish ? Yes

3) Do I give the scriptures in the Word that are God's truth, so by love others can see this as well ? Yes

If you do not like what I have to say when I am giving you the scriptures from the bible, go and read them for yourself and pray to God over them to give you understanding. Because I understand that you do not want to take it from me, but please I ask out of love do not deny the true words of the Lord !!!
Those who walk in error do not see truth as loving. Those whom adhere to a unsaved heretics words will naturally turn the tables on you and tell you that it is YOU that isnt loving. Youve done a good thing. I think you have given it the ole one two Kenneth. Shake the dust off. May the Lord open the eyes to those who are walking in error. Amen
 

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Shoving down throats? LOL Id say posting a link to joseph prince HERESY and neglecting to tell people who it is to begin with is underhanded and not being forthright! :) But I suppose that I wouldnt tell people who the link portrayed either if I was propagating heresy! Its not arrogant and its not assumption when one is putting forth truth ie BIBLE TRUTH. You just see it that way because your flesh desires to cling to a heretics teaching. I personally do not want my ears tickled but then thats just me
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Joseph Prince, an ear tickler? I think ear tickling would be better associated with stroking your ego, in particularly the ego of the self-righteous. How good is it to the self-righteous to hear that their works are not in vain but indeed keep them saved? Does it not tickle the ears of the self-righteous to know that they have something to boast in? This concept and insult of ear tickling seems to be one placed in pride, one placed in ignorance of the goodness of God.
 
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I'd like to think that I know a bit of what the Bible has to say. But, despite the fact that I have a few disagreements with what Prince teaches, he is far and away one of the most brilliant men I have read. And IMHO it would take a real fool to just indiscriminately disregard his wisdom.
 
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I'd like to think that I know a bit of what the Bible has to say. But, despite the fact that I have a few disagreements with what Prince teaches, he is far and away one of the most brilliant men I have read. And IMHO it would take a real fool to just indiscriminately disregard his wisdom.
IMHO it would take a real fool to cling to his heresy.
 
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Those who walk in error do not see truth as loving. Those whom adhere to a unsaved heretics words will naturally turn the tables on you and tell you that it is YOU that isnt loving. Youve done a good thing. I think you have given it the ole one two Kenneth. Shake the dust off. May the Lord open the eyes to those who are walking in error. Amen
Yes I pray for them all the time that their eyes will be opened, because I get the impression they don't really read what we say. They just skim through it and see what they want to see and bypass the truth, and yes the bible does say that bad doctrine will blind some to the truth.
 
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Joseph Prince, an ear tickler? I think ear tickling would be better associated with stroking your ego, in particularly ths ego of the self-righteous. How good is it to the self-righteous to hear that their works are not in vain but indeed keep them saved? Does it not tickle the ears of the self-righteous to know that they have something to boast in? This concept and insult of ear tickling seems to be one placed in pride, one placed in ignorance of the goodness of God.
Im not sure where you are coming from but I am in agreement with Kenneth.
 
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Yes I pray for them all the time that their eyes will be opened, because I get the impression they don't really read what we say. They just skim through it and see what they want to see and bypass the truth, and yes the bible does say that bad doctrine will blind some to the truth.

It is impossible to get a blind man to see by merely holding a mirror to his face. Only the Spirit of the Living God can enable the blind see.
 
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Ever read one of his books?
Don't need to read his books as I have heard 5 of his sermons and each time he said something that did not align with the bible.

For I have watched a number of biblical preachers on TV to see if they line up with the word of God in what they say, or if they speak contradictory to the bible. The other thing I do is look to see who's ministry program they are associated with to see if they are trust worthy as well. For if they connected with other false teachers then that is another showing of their character, and Prince is associated with Joel Osteen who is a prosperity teacher that chargers people to hear him.
 
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Shhhhhhhhh. Just take another blue pill each, and go back to sleep.