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My answer would be a qualified yes.
It would depend on:
1) her relationship withthe guy.
2) where they were when she rebuked him.
3) how she went about it.
1) IMO, a woman can properly rebuke: her son (of any age), her husband, a guy who is courting her, or her daughter.
2) in private
3) gently and only if she truly believes that the rebuke is in his best interest. [Exception: a woman can and should rebuke a guy who is courting if he oversteps her limits.
It would depend on:
1) her relationship withthe guy.
2) where they were when she rebuked him.
3) how she went about it.
1) IMO, a woman can properly rebuke: her son (of any age), her husband, a guy who is courting her, or her daughter.
2) in private
3) gently and only if she truly believes that the rebuke is in his best interest. [Exception: a woman can and should rebuke a guy who is courting if he oversteps her limits.
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I asked the Lord into my heart at age 10 and 46yrs later I'm writing this post. I have seen in the bible where God has raised up women to do that which a man should. Moses and his wife, the book of esther, I know that God has a order and prefers a man to teach over a woman. And I have seen where a man was not found or did not submit to the calling that God choose a women to the calling but not to be ordained as the teacher but to fill in in till a man was to be found. Now with that being said as far as bible study is concerned a woman is not to teach other men or boys unless she is married and has her husbands approval in which case it has to be under his roof and he is to be present. She can teach under his authority but only in his presence and under his roof or in a church where the pastor agrees with the husband. That is my understanding of it.
And where was your Scriptural authority for this? The OP requested references. 
I've been a Christian for 25 years, and growing (inconsistently) the whole time. I'd quote Galatians 3:28, but Word_Swordsman already did so I'll spare you. I have no trouble with being taught, reproved, corrected or trained in righteousness by a woman or a man. Preach on, Sisters! If I rejected all the instruction I've received from females, I'd be less than half-grown. Which is not to say I'm all grown yet; that will take a lifetime, maybe a little longer.
That all said, there are contexts in which it is culturally more acceptable for a man to address another man, and for a woman to address another woman, and not cross those lines. And there are also contexts where both should be able to speak their minds to others, regardless of gender.
Blessings,
Dino
I've been a Christian for 25 years, and growing (inconsistently) the whole time. I'd quote Galatians 3:28, but Word_Swordsman already did so I'll spare you. I have no trouble with being taught, reproved, corrected or trained in righteousness by a woman or a man. Preach on, Sisters! If I rejected all the instruction I've received from females, I'd be less than half-grown. Which is not to say I'm all grown yet; that will take a lifetime, maybe a little longer.
That all said, there are contexts in which it is culturally more acceptable for a man to address another man, and for a woman to address another woman, and not cross those lines. And there are also contexts where both should be able to speak their minds to others, regardless of gender.
Blessings,
Dino
And where was your Scriptural authority for this? The OP requested references.
I've been a Christian for 25 years, and growing (inconsistently) the whole time. I'd quote Galatians 3:28, but Word_Swordsman already did so I'll spare you. I have no trouble with being taught, reproved, corrected or trained in righteousness by a woman or a man. Preach on, Sisters! If I rejected all the instruction I've received from females, I'd be less than half-grown. Which is not to say I'm all grown yet; that will take a lifetime, maybe a little longer.
That all said, there are contexts in which it is culturally more acceptable for a man to address another man, and for a woman to address another woman, and not cross those lines. And there are also contexts where both should be able to speak their minds to others, regardless of gender.
Blessings,
Dino
I've been a Christian for 25 years, and growing (inconsistently) the whole time. I'd quote Galatians 3:28, but Word_Swordsman already did so I'll spare you. I have no trouble with being taught, reproved, corrected or trained in righteousness by a woman or a man. Preach on, Sisters! If I rejected all the instruction I've received from females, I'd be less than half-grown. Which is not to say I'm all grown yet; that will take a lifetime, maybe a little longer.
That all said, there are contexts in which it is culturally more acceptable for a man to address another man, and for a woman to address another woman, and not cross those lines. And there are also contexts where both should be able to speak their minds to others, regardless of gender.
Blessings,
Dino
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. (Gal 3:28)
This means IN CHRIST there is neither etc.. But in the local Church and in this world there remains bond and free, male and female, Jew and Gentile. Onesimus was a runaway slave to his christian master Philemon. Paul gave specific instructions to wives and other instructions to husbands...both being Christian. Paul when he went into a town if possible preached to the Jews first then the Gentiles.
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This is what I'm looking for, although I disagree on women becoming pastors. (If the men in church won't.can't stand up for the job, then go find one who will. It's not like they don't exist. Who's coming out of seminaries? Men!) And my apologize to any female pastors reading this, but I did say I wasn't shy or fearful.
BUT, you didn't hit on my question at all. I'm not talking authorized women -- pastors, judges, prophets. I'm talking your run-of-the-mill Christian woman. One of the congregation.
BUT, you didn't hit on my question at all. I'm not talking authorized women -- pastors, judges, prophets. I'm talking your run-of-the-mill Christian woman. One of the congregation.
And where was your Scriptural authority for this? The OP requested references.
I've been a Christian for 25 years, and growing (inconsistently) the whole time. I'd quote Galatians 3:28, but Word_Swordsman already did so I'll spare you. I have no trouble with being taught, reproved, corrected or trained in righteousness by a woman or a man. Preach on, Sisters! If I rejected all the instruction I've received from females, I'd be less than half-grown. Which is not to say I'm all grown yet; that will take a lifetime, maybe a little longer.
That all said, there are contexts in which it is culturally more acceptable for a man to address another man, and for a woman to address another woman, and not cross those lines. And there are also contexts where both should be able to speak their minds to others, regardless of gender.
Blessings,
Dino
I've been a Christian for 25 years, and growing (inconsistently) the whole time. I'd quote Galatians 3:28, but Word_Swordsman already did so I'll spare you. I have no trouble with being taught, reproved, corrected or trained in righteousness by a woman or a man. Preach on, Sisters! If I rejected all the instruction I've received from females, I'd be less than half-grown. Which is not to say I'm all grown yet; that will take a lifetime, maybe a little longer.
That all said, there are contexts in which it is culturally more acceptable for a man to address another man, and for a woman to address another woman, and not cross those lines. And there are also contexts where both should be able to speak their minds to others, regardless of gender.
Blessings,
Dino
God----MAN----WOMAN-----Child
The bible is clear......argue it if you want!
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What's a child? That's my conundrum. If it's birth age, then are you a child to me? I recognize you're a man, in all respects, but I helped raise my "little brother" when Mom died. I'm his godmother and that meant something to me. (He's a grown up now, so I'm retired godmother, unless he needs something I can give him.) He's your age! Yup, also every inch a man, but I revert right back to mom-form if he ever gave me some lip. (Good relationship, so he doesn't give me lip. lol)
Or is it years in Christ? Generally speaking, I wouldn't tell any man how to run his life. I'd never correct or reprove, but what if a 65 y.o. man comes to the Lord and instant believes he is in charge of me? (And hubby isn't around to give him what-for. And that is one thing you never want to do to me, if hubby is around. lol) Can I speak up?
Got to say, if a 65 y.o. man tries to tell me how to run my life and he's been a Christian for 50 years, I'm not going to take it anyway. That's hubby's job. If he has problems with me, talk to hubby. And even hubby knows he doesn't have complete authority over me. (Ask me to change, and I'll do it for him, but only because he asks nicely, has a good plan, loves me dearly, and I love him. That's my reason for submitting. But he cannot micromanage me.)
So, sure. There is that order, but that doesn't get to the nitty nor the gritty of what I'm asking.
Or is it years in Christ? Generally speaking, I wouldn't tell any man how to run his life. I'd never correct or reprove, but what if a 65 y.o. man comes to the Lord and instant believes he is in charge of me? (And hubby isn't around to give him what-for. And that is one thing you never want to do to me, if hubby is around. lol) Can I speak up?
Got to say, if a 65 y.o. man tries to tell me how to run my life and he's been a Christian for 50 years, I'm not going to take it anyway. That's hubby's job. If he has problems with me, talk to hubby. And even hubby knows he doesn't have complete authority over me. (Ask me to change, and I'll do it for him, but only because he asks nicely, has a good plan, loves me dearly, and I love him. That's my reason for submitting. But he cannot micromanage me.)
So, sure. There is that order, but that doesn't get to the nitty nor the gritty of what I'm asking.
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Easy question first:
The wife can't rebuke once the courtship goes to marriage, but the hubby oversteps her limits? (It's not like guys instantly learn house-rules. Toilet-set-down takes 6 months to a year, before understood by some guys, for instance. And let's not get into dirty-laundry habits. lol)
Harder question:
If your wife was getting a whatnot lecture by some babe in Christ who mistakenly believed she SHOULD wait on him hand-and-foot, but you're not there, you don't think she has the right to give him what-for? I mean, I really would go get a guy in church a sandwich if he asked nicely. I wouldn't be so kind to him if he thought I was his maid.
The wife can't rebuke once the courtship goes to marriage, but the hubby oversteps her limits? (It's not like guys instantly learn house-rules. Toilet-set-down takes 6 months to a year, before understood by some guys, for instance. And let's not get into dirty-laundry habits. lol)
Harder question:
If your wife was getting a whatnot lecture by some babe in Christ who mistakenly believed she SHOULD wait on him hand-and-foot, but you're not there, you don't think she has the right to give him what-for? I mean, I really would go get a guy in church a sandwich if he asked nicely. I wouldn't be so kind to him if he thought I was his maid.
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Two separate thoughts:
1. Wow! I so would not feel comfortable teaching men, even in our house, even with hubby's approval. I can only think of one case where he could talk me into it -- if he was going to teach, but got sick. (I was always the one typing his notes, so, by the time he taught, I already knew the material, because he'd ask my advice on if something was clear often enough.) Even then, I'd want a recorder, so he could hear what I taught, ans fix what I messed up the next week.
2. What did Moses' wife do, other than stick with him even through the improbable plan? From my understanding, she spent most of her life living with her Dad raising the kids while her hubby was wandering the wilderness for 40 years. (And, I didn't even like it when hubby had to work at night or, worse yet, Saturday night. lol)
1. Wow! I so would not feel comfortable teaching men, even in our house, even with hubby's approval. I can only think of one case where he could talk me into it -- if he was going to teach, but got sick. (I was always the one typing his notes, so, by the time he taught, I already knew the material, because he'd ask my advice on if something was clear often enough.) Even then, I'd want a recorder, so he could hear what I taught, ans fix what I messed up the next week.
2. What did Moses' wife do, other than stick with him even through the improbable plan? From my understanding, she spent most of her life living with her Dad raising the kids while her hubby was wandering the wilderness for 40 years. (And, I didn't even like it when hubby had to work at night or, worse yet, Saturday night. lol)
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And where was your Scriptural authority for this? The OP requested references.
I've been a Christian for 25 years, and growing (inconsistently) the whole time. I'd quote Galatians 3:28, but Word_Swordsman already did so I'll spare you. I have no trouble with being taught, reproved, corrected or trained in righteousness by a woman or a man. Preach on, Sisters! If I rejected all the instruction I've received from females, I'd be less than half-grown. Which is not to say I'm all grown yet; that will take a lifetime, maybe a little longer.
That all said, there are contexts in which it is culturally more acceptable for a man to address another man, and for a woman to address another woman, and not cross those lines. And there are also contexts where both should be able to speak their minds to others, regardless of gender.
Blessings,
Dino
I've been a Christian for 25 years, and growing (inconsistently) the whole time. I'd quote Galatians 3:28, but Word_Swordsman already did so I'll spare you. I have no trouble with being taught, reproved, corrected or trained in righteousness by a woman or a man. Preach on, Sisters! If I rejected all the instruction I've received from females, I'd be less than half-grown. Which is not to say I'm all grown yet; that will take a lifetime, maybe a little longer.
That all said, there are contexts in which it is culturally more acceptable for a man to address another man, and for a woman to address another woman, and not cross those lines. And there are also contexts where both should be able to speak their minds to others, regardless of gender.
Blessings,
Dino
1. Not to worry about DC not giving refs. He was telling the basics, so I was seeing the references, (even if I can't ever remember actual quotes lol), with that list. I'm assuming people got the implications that I had some understanding of the subject, if I'm going all nitpicky on one aspect of the subject.
2. According to American culture, the proper attitude for men ought to be, "How high do you want me to jump, honey?" Followed by memorizing the answer, so she doesn't have to repeat herself. Kind of the problem with talking cultures -- they tend to rarely mesh with scripture.