I don't think there's a number at how much one should give. It's not like taxes. Whether you have 1 billion, 1 million, 1,000, or 100 dollars in your account, the whole point is to give out of love. I barely make over minimum wage and am finishing up paying off a year's worth of tuition for my school, and even then I still gave to those that needed it more than I did. Now wouldn't it be nice for someone that has 1 billion dollars to be giving A LOT of that back? Of course. But at the end of the day it's all about the heart. God would want us to do it out of love, not like "ugh. I gotta give this guy money because God tells me to." That line of thinking defeats the purpose.
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You obviously have not studied 1 Timothy 6 and believe what it says plainly. It says to the rich that they are to be willing to distribute their wealth so that they may lay hold on eternal life. Meaning, they don't have it.
"Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate; Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life."
"Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate; Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life."
And this becomes an issue of stewardship then yes. But God shows a spirit of Mammon that is alluring. God says you cannot serve both money and God. One must surrender wealth to God to be able to use it to what? God says, to invest it in people. Not goods to represent His blessings. God does not care if you use money for His sake He has blessed many in this way. Yet He cares if you attach your heart to the Spirit of the flesh that Satan has gripped onto with it. What did He tell the man seeking God's favor in the bible, Go and sell everything you own...now that's not what he says all to do, but the principle is the mans reaction, He went away sad, for he was wealthy. The "Love" of money is the root of all evil. Not money itself, yet Money will be used by Satan to tempt you, God warns of it in relationship to your loyalty to Him.
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I think people should try to avoid being stupid, boring and believing everyone should have an opinion just like they do
I believe God gave us brains to USE and far too many people are too lazy to think for themself
I believe it is NOT a sin to be rich
I believe it IS a sin to be envious of those who are rich
I believe that calling what one does not understand, cannot attain and therefore spits on, evil, is a sin in and of itself
I certainly do not mean this as pertains to the author of this op...I am only responding to the op
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Actually, there have been several threads about this topic just recently and in each one, biblical figures who were most definately wealthy were mentionned with references given.
Doesn't matter...seems if someone does not like another that is well to do, then no amount of biblical persuasion will assauge that feeling
I hate 'em cause they are rich! of course never actually said with those words, but rather hinted at from behind a barricade of false humility and the belief there must be special rewards awaiting those who did not have a mansion on earth
Doesn't matter...seems if someone does not like another that is well to do, then no amount of biblical persuasion will assauge that feeling
I hate 'em cause they are rich! of course never actually said with those words, but rather hinted at from behind a barricade of false humility and the belief there must be special rewards awaiting those who did not have a mansion on earth
Are you still not seeing what it says in 1 Timothy 6?
It also says that they that are rich fall into temptation and a snare and into many foolish and hurtful lusts. It then says that those who have coveted after riches have erred from the faith and pierced themselves thru with many sorrows.
Now, here is the contrast.
The man of God.
Listen to what the man of God is supposed to do instead.
It says in 1 Timothy 6 that the man of God is to FLEE THESE THINGS. What things? Riches of course. What else is it talking about? It says INSTEAD that the man of God is supposed to FOLLOW after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, and meekness.
Here is the Scripture (that says what I just said):
9 "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses."
It also says that they that are rich fall into temptation and a snare and into many foolish and hurtful lusts. It then says that those who have coveted after riches have erred from the faith and pierced themselves thru with many sorrows.
Now, here is the contrast.
The man of God.
Listen to what the man of God is supposed to do instead.
It says in 1 Timothy 6 that the man of God is to FLEE THESE THINGS. What things? Riches of course. What else is it talking about? It says INSTEAD that the man of God is supposed to FOLLOW after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, and meekness.
Here is the Scripture (that says what I just said):
9 "But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses."
God owns everything in the universe because He created it all. The only truly unique gift God can give us is what He did for us on the cross. But hoarding material wealth while others suffer goes against God's way of loving others.
Have you ever did a study on 1 Timothy 6 and understood what it says plainly?
Have you ever did a study on 1 Timothy 6 and understood what it says plainly?
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Might want to read more of the bible and put things in proper biblical context?
2Co 9:6 ¶ But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:
9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness
11 Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God.
2Co 9:6 ¶ But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:
9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness
11 Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God.
Really? God fed the Israelites with manna from Heaven. Do you really think he needs us to make a ton of cash to provide for all the poor in the world? Did not Jesus say that the poor will always be among you? Can we change other problems that sin has caused in this world? Would it not be better to obey His Word instead of what our own logic says?
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Ok try reading and believing the Word of God....
2Co 9:6 ¶ But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:
9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness
11 Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God.
2Co 9:6 ¶ But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:
9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness
11 Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God.
If someone works a job that pays well (I.e., a doctor) is that the person's fault? Of course not. It's what you choose to do with that money that's the difference. If you're offered a promotion at your job, I would like to think you wouldn't turn it down. I make 10 dollars an hour. I plan on going to grad school, and using my master's degree to get a job in the field I studied. Guess what? I won't be getting paid 10 dollars an hour anymore when that happens. Does that make me evil? Does that make you evil if you take the promotion your supervisor offers you? I'm not really sure what your point is.
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