Woman position ( 1 Corinthians 14:34-37)
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What was the discussion when you both first found out? Didn't he come up with a course of action of what he wanted you to do back then?
The disease takes over a person. We often have to differentiate between the person and the disease. Dad made plans before he had to. He made a living will. When he found out, he put my oldest brother in charge of making decisions for him when he was no longer able to do it for himself. I'm the one stuck with when to pull the plug, if it comes to that. That plan is still in effect despite the disease now spreading at such a rate, he's beyond knowing what's good for him or why my brother does what he does. (Why do you have my car? I want my car back. I'm doing great. What cops?)
I'm assuming your husband wanted you to help him. Taking care of him as long as you can, now means not listening to the disease. Listen to what he said when you knew it was him saying it. It's not easy, but you know you're doing the right thing for him, so, yes, you are submitting.
The disease takes over a person. We often have to differentiate between the person and the disease. Dad made plans before he had to. He made a living will. When he found out, he put my oldest brother in charge of making decisions for him when he was no longer able to do it for himself. I'm the one stuck with when to pull the plug, if it comes to that. That plan is still in effect despite the disease now spreading at such a rate, he's beyond knowing what's good for him or why my brother does what he does. (Why do you have my car? I want my car back. I'm doing great. What cops?)
I'm assuming your husband wanted you to help him. Taking care of him as long as you can, now means not listening to the disease. Listen to what he said when you knew it was him saying it. It's not easy, but you know you're doing the right thing for him, so, yes, you are submitting.
Goodbye.Dear Convallaria,
I am sorry you were ignored by the people who needed to hear this: it is probably because you are a woman. You are correct, when we seek ministry we are seeking to receive from God, not man or woman. God has called you to speak but many will want to silence you and your other sisters. This is not a gender war because the weapons of OUR warfare are not carnal but MIGHTY through God to the pulling down of strongholds, casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.
Convallaria it is possible that some carnally minded people will have to be humbled in the days ahead if they refuse to hear the Holy Spirit speaking through women, because whichever way you dice it, they are refusing God. You will be able to see this carnality in the deadness of their message, while they try to impress you that it is alive.You and your sisters can no longer submit Christ in you to the carnality of their thinking so let it out: speak and don't hold back.
Stand up and be who you are in Christ. If God has called you to minister don't let anyone persuade you it is not so. This is not a time to be making cakes and knitting bootees in the vestry: this is a time to share Christ like never before. Shout it from the rooftops what Jesus did for you. Tell them that what He did for you He can do for anyone, no matter their gender. Thank God we are counted among the blessed "whosoever" who received Jesus and became DAUGHTERS of God. Yes Daughters.
You go girl!
Convallaria
I am sorry you were ignored by the people who needed to hear this: it is probably because you are a woman. You are correct, when we seek ministry we are seeking to receive from God, not man or woman. God has called you to speak but many will want to silence you and your other sisters. This is not a gender war because the weapons of OUR warfare are not carnal but MIGHTY through God to the pulling down of strongholds, casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.
Convallaria it is possible that some carnally minded people will have to be humbled in the days ahead if they refuse to hear the Holy Spirit speaking through women, because whichever way you dice it, they are refusing God. You will be able to see this carnality in the deadness of their message, while they try to impress you that it is alive.You and your sisters can no longer submit Christ in you to the carnality of their thinking so let it out: speak and don't hold back.
Stand up and be who you are in Christ. If God has called you to minister don't let anyone persuade you it is not so. This is not a time to be making cakes and knitting bootees in the vestry: this is a time to share Christ like never before. Shout it from the rooftops what Jesus did for you. Tell them that what He did for you He can do for anyone, no matter their gender. Thank God we are counted among the blessed "whosoever" who received Jesus and became DAUGHTERS of God. Yes Daughters.
You go girl!
Convallaria
This too is a woman in submission to her husband.
Proverbs 31:10-31
10An excellent wife, who can find?
For her worth is far above jewels. 11The heart of her husband trusts in her,
And he will have no lack of gain.
12She does him good and not evil
All the days of her life.
13She looks for wool and flax
And works with her hands in delight.
14She is like merchant ships;
She brings her food from afar.
15She rises also while it is still night
And gives food to her household
And portions to her maidens.
16She considers a field and buys it;
From her earnings she plants a vineyard.
17She girds herself with strength
And makes her arms strong.
18She senses that her gain is good;
Her lamp does not go out at night.
19She stretches out her hands to the distaff,
And her hands grasp the spindle.
20She extends her hand to the poor,
And she stretches out her hands to the needy.
21She is not afraid of the snow for her household,
For all her household are clothed with scarlet.
22She makes coverings for herself;
Her clothing is fine linen and purple.
23Her husband is known in the gates,
When he sits among the elders of the land.
24She makes linen garments and sells them,
And supplies belts to the tradesmen.
25Strength and dignity are her clothing,
And she smiles at the future.
26She opens her mouth in wisdom,
And the teaching of kindness is on her tongue.
27She looks well to the ways of her household,
And does not eat the bread of idleness.
28Her children rise up and bless her;
Her husband also, and he praises her, saying:
29“Many daughters have done nobly,
But you excel them all.”
30Charm is deceitful and beauty is vain,
But a woman who fears the LORD, she shall be praised.
31Give her the product of her hands,
And let her works praise her in the gates.
Proverbs 31:10-31
10An excellent wife, who can find?
For her worth is far above jewels. 11The heart of her husband trusts in her,
And he will have no lack of gain.
12She does him good and not evil
All the days of her life.
13She looks for wool and flax
And works with her hands in delight.
14She is like merchant ships;
She brings her food from afar.
15She rises also while it is still night
And gives food to her household
And portions to her maidens.
16She considers a field and buys it;
From her earnings she plants a vineyard.
17She girds herself with strength
And makes her arms strong.
18She senses that her gain is good;
Her lamp does not go out at night.
19She stretches out her hands to the distaff,
And her hands grasp the spindle.
20She extends her hand to the poor,
And she stretches out her hands to the needy.
21She is not afraid of the snow for her household,
For all her household are clothed with scarlet.
22She makes coverings for herself;
Her clothing is fine linen and purple.
23Her husband is known in the gates,
When he sits among the elders of the land.
24She makes linen garments and sells them,
And supplies belts to the tradesmen.
25Strength and dignity are her clothing,
And she smiles at the future.
26She opens her mouth in wisdom,
And the teaching of kindness is on her tongue.
27She looks well to the ways of her household,
And does not eat the bread of idleness.
28Her children rise up and bless her;
Her husband also, and he praises her, saying:
29“Many daughters have done nobly,
But you excel them all.”
30Charm is deceitful and beauty is vain,
But a woman who fears the LORD, she shall be praised.
31Give her the product of her hands,
And let her works praise her in the gates.
B
Your willingness to "listen" to anyone who is holding the word of God up as the standard is the issue not your personal circumstances. God has ordered creation and authority and that is that. That your husband is incapacitated by disease which has caused hardship for your household doesn't change the word of God. I pose to you that HAD you already choose to agree with God at some previous juncture in your life, repented and pursued obedience vs looking for reasons to avoid obedience... you would not be throwing out the question you have now. Had you done so... you would recognize that your personal circumstances are not an excuse to nullify the word of God rather a time when you witness, affirm and hold up the standard that HIs word is truth and testify to His grace for your "widowed" circumstances.
E
To share a scripture from The Bible GOD's Word, one must first seek GOD to Reveal and therefore have understanding. In 1 Corinthians 14:34-37 The Apostle Paul is writing to the church of Corinth. Paul is giving them Biblical Sound instructions on how their church must be in order to be a church of Godly principles. The church of Corinth was out of order. Now the correction of the women were to be silent because they were out of order, speaking while the preacher was preaching. notice it states they were to ask any questions to their own husbands at home (not interrupting the service asking the preacher). As it should be instilled today. Women are to listen in the church and ask their husbands at home for understanding of what was preached. I believe this is one of the reasons Bible Study started within the churches.
Now lets take another step forward. The Bible tells us we are not to be just hearers of the Word but doers as well. Therefore there should be nothing that interferes with the flow of Church Service. We all must be obedient during Service. This in no way states a women can not speak at all. What it is stating is that they are not to interrupt. There were many women HE used to speak HIS WORD. JESUS told Mary Magdalene to tell HIS disciples HE is Risen. The Bible also tells of the older women are to teach the younger women. GOD will use whomever HE so chose. Many women have been used by GOD for many reasons. Also keep in mind that many times the women were not mentioned in scriptures by name. And many times they were. Please do not misinterpret scriptures for when we do not take in the full understanding we miss much. GOD has used children and animals as well there is no limits with GOD. It is not about who we are but who GOD is. I do agree there is a Godly order in which GOD is Head, the husband is over the wife and the wife over the children. There is a good reason for it as well and it has nothing to do with superiority but the ability to bear the weight that comes with the position.
Blessings!!!!!!!
Now lets take another step forward. The Bible tells us we are not to be just hearers of the Word but doers as well. Therefore there should be nothing that interferes with the flow of Church Service. We all must be obedient during Service. This in no way states a women can not speak at all. What it is stating is that they are not to interrupt. There were many women HE used to speak HIS WORD. JESUS told Mary Magdalene to tell HIS disciples HE is Risen. The Bible also tells of the older women are to teach the younger women. GOD will use whomever HE so chose. Many women have been used by GOD for many reasons. Also keep in mind that many times the women were not mentioned in scriptures by name. And many times they were. Please do not misinterpret scriptures for when we do not take in the full understanding we miss much. GOD has used children and animals as well there is no limits with GOD. It is not about who we are but who GOD is. I do agree there is a Godly order in which GOD is Head, the husband is over the wife and the wife over the children. There is a good reason for it as well and it has nothing to do with superiority but the ability to bear the weight that comes with the position.
Blessings!!!!!!!
Look, softy, just because your wife wears the pants in your family and you don't have the balls God gave a mouse, does not mean all men are afraid to speak truth. Some people actually think about how to fix the disobedience problem- NOT on how to lay down and continue in emasculation- as you so willingly display. Weak? Hardly. Someone needs to adress the unruliness...
This is the mockery of a non-Biblical "Christian" posing as a believer and trying to use Scripture as a weapon against itself to confound believers in the Bible.
He tries to handle the Scriptures as he sees them handled by believers, being blind to failing so miserably and, depending on his various kinds of insobriety, he is even willing to blaspheme in his attempt to appear a Biblical Christian.
It's all a game with him now, and he is so foolish as to think believers can't see his unbelief, ignorance and mockery.
He's been here many times before under many different screen names, but always the same game. . .trying to separate believers from their faith in the word of God written.
He doesn't have a clue from which powerful source comes our faith in the Bible.
He tries to handle the Scriptures as he sees them handled by believers, being blind to failing so miserably and, depending on his various kinds of insobriety, he is even willing to blaspheme in his attempt to appear a Biblical Christian.
It's all a game with him now, and he is so foolish as to think believers can't see his unbelief, ignorance and mockery.
He's been here many times before under many different screen names, but always the same game. . .trying to separate believers from their faith in the word of God written.
He doesn't have a clue from which powerful source comes our faith in the Bible.
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