Woman position ( 1 Corinthians 14:34-37)

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34. let the women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but let them be in subjection, as also saith the law. 35. And if they would learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home: for it is shameful for a woman to speak in the church. 36. What? was it from you that the word of God went forth? or came it unto you alone? 37. If any man thinketh himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him take knowledge of the things which I write unto you, that they are the commandment of the Lord. (1 Corinthians 14:34-37)

So like our dear brother Paulos writes here, that it is a commandment of the Lord Yeshua, that women's position should be as a listener, in a church.

God has made woman form men, and this should be the order also in our time.

Humility this takes to woman, but there is nothing wrong about humility, even though this world time, seems to try to lead us understand differently.

It is a vital doctrine and everyone should keep it.



The word of exhortation: In the Lord Messiah Yešua
I am a man so I can say this is true for me. If a woman only wants to learn from me and does not desire to teach me anything about herself and her views, I'd rather have nothing to do with her.
 
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Galahad

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Funny how the same guy who wrote that also wrote this:

Galatians 3:25 .) But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 .) For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 .) For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 .) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 .) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


Hmm.............
I think I see your point. But would you then affirm that if any woman desires the office of an elder that she be the husband of one wife? Or, wife of one wife?

Where does Galatians 3:25 fit in with 1 Timothy 3?
 

Reborn

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ok. This is exactly the kind of stuff that has our other brother in the state he is in.

Where in my post did I say women can't speak? That is NOT my position. There is one lady on this site in particular, that has taught me a lot.
There are quite a few women here that have awesome imput.

That number might be higher than the mens posts worth reading here.
 
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I am a man so I can say this is true for me. If a woman only wants to learn from me and does not desire to teach me anything about herself and her views, I'd rather have nothing to do with her.
All well and good outside the assembly.
 
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I think I see your point. But would you then affirm that if any woman desires the office of an elder that she be the husband of one wife? Or, wife of one wife?

Where does Galatians 3:25 fit in with 1 Timothy 3?
One is spiritual seed, the other is physical elder.
 

melita916

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i have a question. or 2.

a woman being silent in the assembly - does this only refer to preaching/teaching/leadership?

or does it also include leading the music portion of service for worship?
 
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i have a question. or 2.

a woman being silent in the assembly - does this only refer to preaching/teaching/leadership?

or does it also include leading the music portion of service for worship?
Depends on how well she can sing. :eek:
Hey, that's true of preachers. How well do they preach or teach. Otherwise they get the boot.
 
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No, a learning relationship has to go two ways not one way.
A one way learning relationship is a sick relationship, inside or outside the assembly.
Sorry, you don't believe the word of God written. . .
 
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i have a question. or 2.

a woman being silent in the assembly - does this only refer to preaching/teaching/leadership?

or does it also include leading the music portion of service for worship?
Really, really hard to lead worship silently. lol

The whole teaching is about not interrupting service. Worshiping isn't interrupting service, so you're good to go. :D
 
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Jesus said, "For I will give you the words and wisdom which none of your opponents will be able to resist or refute."
 
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i have a question. or 2.

a woman being silent in the assembly - does this only refer to preaching/teaching/leadership?

or does it also include leading the music portion of service for worship?
The music portion of the service is conducted by what is called a worship leader in some assemblies.

Women are not to appear to be in authority over men in the assembly.
To lead the assembly in music would be leadership, in my opinion.

What think ye, oldhermit and Marc?
 
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atwhatcost

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I am a man so I can say this is true for me. If a woman only wants to learn from me and does not desire to teach me anything about herself and her views, I'd rather have nothing to do with her.
Sounds sweet and true, until one notes you refuse God. By refusing God, that tells me you aren't learning from women or men. Instead, you present your opinions as if that makes them fact. If a man doesn't trust God, the only instruction I will accept is how-to fix or make something tangible.

It seems learning isn't part of your itinerary on here, so you have little to do with us anyway.
 
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Galahad

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One is spiritual seed, the other is physical elder.
Elin,
Galatians 3:25 seems to have been applied to women keeping silent. The reason it was applied or introduced is to show or prove that women can speak in church, for there in Christ there is neither male nor female.

If Galatians 3 applies to 1 Cor. as a nullifier of sorts to the command of Paul for women to keep silent, then it would likewise nullify the explicit teaching of 1 Timothy 3.

The truth in Galatians 3 does not nullify the explicit teaching in 1 Timothy 3 or in 1 Corinthians.

Yes, we are spiritual seed, descendants. Being a physical descendant of Abraham does not make one a child of God. One are God's children through Jesus Christ. I agree.

The physical elder? Yes. The elder is physical. But the qualifications and work are spiritual.

Just a bit confused on what you meant by: physical elder.

To be clear, Galatians 3 does not contradict Paul's teaching in 1 Corinthians or in 1 Timothy 3. The subject of Galatians and 1 Corinthians are different.
 
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VioletReigns

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People, please do some research online about who Paul was actually speaking to (hint: it was NOT the general Christian population!), what Paul's real point was, and why he was addressing Timothy about it. And most of all, please ask God to give you His wisdom on this subject rather than taking a few scriptures out of context.