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MikeHenderson

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Colossians 1:16-18
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

Colossians 1:24
[SUP]24 [/SUP] I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of His body, which is the church,

Ephesians 1:22
[SUP]22 [/SUP] And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church,

Its Jesus Christ who is the True Church, not the corrupted Catholic Church.

Since Jesus IS in Heaven the True Church IS in Heaven.
 
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bondservant

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Ok I saw you said it was in heaven....ok......so church is also body of Christ and bride of Christ?
 
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KennethC

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MikeHenderson said:
Colossians 1:16-18
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

Colossians 1:24
[SUP]24 [/SUP] I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of His body, which is the church,

Ephesians 1:22
[SUP]22 [/SUP] And He put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church,

Its Jesus Christ who is the True Church, not the corrupted Catholic Church.

Since Jesus IS in Heaven the True Church IS in Heaven.
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No those scriptures say He is the Head of the Church, and the church is the body of believers.......
 
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KennethC

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bondservant said:
Ok I saw you said it was in heaven....ok......so church is also body of Christ and bride of Christ?
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The Church is not in heaven yet, only the Head of the Church Jesus Christ is, as the body of believers in Him are the Church.
We are still here on earth so we can not be in heaven yet, if the Church is in heaven then we would be to as we are the body.
 
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bondservant

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So the body but not the bride?
 
mwc68

mwc68

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MikeHenderson said:
See how mwc68 hates the Truth. Everything he hate he makes fun of. When will you allow the Holy Spirit to indwell you mwc68? Ken may be a broken record but God does say Mary was a sinner.

Why do you hate God so much mwc68 that you reject His Truths for the false teachings of the Catholic Church?

Do you not know if you keep on rejecting God He eventually will turn His back on you and allow you to wallow in your sins?

God does not force us to accept Him, nor does He force anyone to follow Him.

If you really want to walk away from God mwc68 He will allow you to do it.
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Why are you lying about me? Simple question, why are you lying about me? You can disagree with doctrine is one thing. To say I don't love God is a flat out lie and I will ask you to please stop that nonsense
 
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bondservant

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Mwc68 I am so sorry about the way you were treated here. I was and still am working on a thread because this type of posting has to stop. I do not believe in judging a person from where they come from neither did Christ. Look at his first picks a tax collector a fisherman etc. and look what they became lol. Ok even me but he's not done with me. Lol let us both agree that Jesus is Lord and he will handle it from here.
 
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Mec99

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The problem with you mwc68 is you do not just disagree, you also attack the person for the Truth and call them a broken record.

Will believing in false Doctrines keep one out of Heaven? Yes! If that Doctrine is used by people to justify their Worship of Mary as their God!

Its not a matter of just Disagreeing on a few points of a Doctrine, its a matter of false Doctrines that were made up by the Catholic Church that deceive the Catholics into believing there is nothing wrong with Idolatry.

Praying to Mary is Idolatry which will keep a Believer from entering into Heaven.

Galatians 5:19-21
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Those who practice Idolatry by Praying to Mary will not Inherit the Kingdom of God.
 
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mwc68

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bondservant said:
Mwc68 I am so sorry about the way you were treated here. I was and still am working on a thread because this type of posting has to stop. I do not believe in judging a person from where they come from neither did Christ. Look at his first picks a tax collector a fisherman etc. and look what they became lol. Ok even me but he's not done with me. Lol let us both agree that Jesus is Lord and he will handle it from here.
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I agree! Jesus is Lord and the bondage he delivered me from is proof for me!
 
mwc68

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Mec99 said:
The problem with you mwc68 is you do not just disagree, you also attack the person for the Truth and call them a broken record.

Will believing in false Doctrines keep one out of Heaven? Yes! If that Doctrine is used by people to justify their Worship of Mary as their God!

Its not a matter of just Disagreeing on a few points of a Doctrine, its a matter of false Doctrines that were made up by the Catholic Church that deceive the Catholics into believing there is nothing wrong with Idolatry.

Praying to Mary is Idolatry which will keep a Believer from entering into Heaven.

Galatians 5:19-21
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Those who practice Idolatry by Praying to Mary will not Inherit the Kingdom of God.
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Idolatry is worshipping something as God. I don't do this so your accusation has no merit
 
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bondservant

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Don't understand what's the purpose of praying to Mary if Jesus is Lord?
 
mwc68

mwc68

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bondservant said:
Don't understand what's the purpose of praying to Mary if Jesus is Lord?
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Intercession is biblical. The difference seems to be the misconceptions that I worship Mary which, of course, is ridiculous. Intercessory prayer is biblical and part of the doctine of the Communion of Saints. Not worship, intercession.
 
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bondservant

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Like when Moses prayed for Israel, our when I pray for you, our you for me?
 
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KenAllan

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No its not the same.

In Intercessory prayer you are Praying to God to intercede for a nation like Israel, or asking God to help another person.

Intercessory prayers go to God who then acts on them.

The Intercessory prayers the Catholics do go through Mary and she then acts on them. Mary is NOT God! Asking Mary to intercede for you is a Mortal sin because it is Idolatry!

Only God we are to Pray to and only God can answer our prayers. Mary CANNOT!

Praying to Mary to intercede for you is making Mary your God mwc68!

Moses prayed TO GOD! Not to Mary! This is the difference between True Christians and Catholics. We do not PRAY to Mary to intercede for us!
 
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KenAllan

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Now whether The True Church is in Heaven or is on the Earth makes very little difference and its differences like this we can debate about.

Mary being our Intercessor or Mary being without sin are false Doctrines and these we do not debate! Instead we are to point out the falsehood of these Doctrines, not debate them!
 
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mwc68

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KenAllan said:
Now whether The True Church is in Heaven or is on the Earth makes very little difference and its differences like this we can debate about.

Mary being our Intercessor or Mary being without sin are false Doctrines and these we do not debate! Instead we are to point out the falsehood of these Doctrines, not debate them!
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Fine, whatever! Can we move on now or do you want to continue having a hissy fit?
 
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mwc68 said:
Intercession is biblical. The difference seems to be the misconceptions that I worship Mary which, of course, is ridiculous. Intercessory prayer is biblical and part of the doctine of the Communion of Saints. Not worship, intercession.
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The communion of the saints is not with those who have departed this life. Paganism seeks the intercession of departed souls and begs their assistance in this life.

Those who are in heaven have no knowledge of this world. They cannot bear the sinfulness of this world now that they are in the presence of the Lord and removed from sin.

For the cause of Christ
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"The dead know nothing..." From Ecc 9:5
 
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