Re-thinking good and evil

[Elin]

So then Christians don't know enough about the truth, but they know what the truth is?

Yep, they know where to find it.

Entering into paradox mode in 3..2..1

Nope. . .and your perception limps somewhat.

 

[atwhatcost]

The scripture is only useful for you benefit not mine, I don't need bible verses to prove or disprove my understanding or my world views.

Like I said, it's for your benefit.

Sadly, where you defeat is so obvious is you think you come up with answers all on your own. The criteria isn't merely lacking in that presupposition. It's nonexistent.

You're relying on there is no truth as truth, then ask us to back up truth, and talk about you thinking over truth, when, in truth, you swear truth doesn't exist. The Jabberywocky makes more sense than that.

Kind of tells me maybe you're not as good fetching world views and understanding them as you think. What's wrong with a view that's been proven? It sure beats there is no truth as a presup.

 

[Elin]

Tintin, what did Jesus say to do when someone is your enemy. Did he say to act like an ass as you're acting. When are you going to just get around to loving your enemies, because I'm getting very tired of this act you Christians put on. Look you can't lie to God ok, you can't fake loving me to him ok.

You don't have to come here. . .it's your choice. . .you takes your ticket and pays the price.

 

[atwhatcost]

You live and die based on your scripture, I live and die based on principle.

Whew! Good thing there is no truth, or you'd be dead long ago. lol

 

[atwhatcost]

Yes it is a christian forum, but is it not open to all people of all types of faiths and understanding.

No, it is not. You already know that though.

And this is why. Stuck with that, this would be yet another endless barrage I tell you the truth that there is no truth gobbledygook.

 

[Elin]

There is no truth, only purpose.

Including your statement. . .

 

[Elin]

May I suggest a side order of prunes with your frustration? lol

Somewhat weak in the logic dept.

 

[Elin]

You live and die based on your scripture, I live and die based on principle.

Then you live and die on untruth. . .there is no truth, remember?

 

[atwhatcost]

Of course it's silly. . .it's a pursuit of futility.

Help explain why he doesn't see the Truth.

I've covered this more than once for Real. He prefers the darkness to hide his sins. (Unaware we've been shining light in his dark spot all this time. Boy! What happens when you're so fixated on sin you don't even know it's hidden anymore. Been there. Done that.)

John 3:16-21 16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”

 

[Elin]

Learning is the worlds cure.

Who made that rule?

 

[Elin]

The scripture is only useful for you benefit not mine, I don't need bible verses to prove or disprove my understanding or my world views.

Like I said, it's for your benefit.

Since that is what you will be getting here, your coming here makes no sense, just like your reasoning doesn't.

 

[Elin]

Yes it is a christian forum, but is it not open to all people of all types of faiths and understanding.

We only offer what you have already decided to reject. . .talk about a senseless exercise in futility.

 

[atwhatcost]

Who made that rule?

No truth, no reality, no cure. Keep up. lol

Wait! Does that mean there is no Real either?

 

[Elin]

aye, if there is not truth, and we each define our own principle,
realchild may as well be saying "giraffe linear chartreuse pre-soaking" for all the meaning there might be in anything.

no truth, then nothing but confusion - and the only purpose is more confusion.
if our minds are nothing but the product of random mutation and thoughts nothing but random synaptic discharges, any human "reason" and "logic" is pure, random illusion.

lost, man. completely. diseased, deceived and self-inflicted confusion.
first thing humanism says: "i got nothing"
all the rest it says: "my nothing is something"
what kind of .. ??
i don't even. but they think they do.
an epiphany of delusion, self-worshiping blindness.

been there, done that. burned & buried the t-shirt.
thank God for a SOURCE!! which is Him, and is found in Him!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to posthuman again.

 

[MultilingualMessenger]

Tintin, what did Jesus say to do when someone is your enemy.

What does it matter what He said if Jesus is not the Truth, as you believe, since you believe there is no truth? Why quote someone if nothing they say is true, because there's no truth? Do you believe it is the truth that Jesus said that? And do you believe what He said is truth?

When are you going to just get around to loving your enemies, because I'm getting very tired of this act you Christians put on. Look you can't lie to God ok, you can't fake loving me to him ok.

What's a lie when there's no truth? What constitutes fake, with no real to base it on?

Or is there really truth as a reference point, to know what a lie is?

On what do you base your admonition of Tintin?

If you see something as just an act, then you must believe there is something being portrayed that is not based in truth. You must compare this portrayal to truth to come to the conclusion that it is, indeed, an act. If there is no truth, what is an act?

You reveal over and over in your posts that even you don't believe it when you say there's no truth. Because when you speak without monitoring your every word to make absolutely sure that it fits neatly into your erroneous philosophy, you let us all see the gaping holes in your logic, and the many contradictions within your own words. You can't even keep up with yourself. Your mistakes in keeping with your own philosophy put it plainly for everyone to see that no matter how many times you say there's no truth, how loud you say it, how many people you say it to, etc., you know there is truth. That is revealed in the fact that you use truth to judge fake and lies in your own admonition. And then what: It ends up admonishing you.

There is truth. You might as well stop trying to convince us otherwise because you can't even convince yourself.

 

[atwhatcost]

What does it matter what He said if Jesus is not the Truth, as you believe, since you believe there is no truth? Why quote someone if nothing they say is true, because there's no truth? Do you believe it is the truth that Jesus said that? And do you believe what He said is truth?



What's a lie when there's no truth? What constitutes fake, with no real to base it on?

Or is there really truth as a reference point, to know what a lie is?

On what do you base your admonition of Tintin?

If you see something as just an act, then you must believe there is something being portrayed that is not based in truth. You must compare this portrayal to truth to come to the conclusion that it is, indeed, an act. If there is no truth, what is an act?

You reveal over and over in your posts that even you don't believe it when you say there's no truth. Because when you speak without monitoring your every word to make absolutely sure that it fits neatly into your erroneous philosophy, you let us all see the gaping holes in your logic, and the many contradictions within your own words. You can't even keep up with yourself. Your mistakes in keeping with your own philosophy puts it plainly for everyone to see that no matter how many times you say there's no truth, how loud you say it, how many people you say it to, etc., you know there is truth. That is revealed in the fact that you use truth to judge fake and lies in your own admonition. And then what: It ends up admonishing you.

There is truth. You might as well stop trying to convince us otherwise because you can't even convince yourself.

Dare I say it?

True That!

 

[breno785au]

Here's a little story, an apologist was speaking to a bunch of university students, one spoke up and said, "There are no absolutes!" The apologist replied, "Are you absolutely sure?"

 

[Elin]

What does it matter what He said if Jesus is not the Truth, as you believe, since you believe there is no truth? Why quote someone if nothing they say is true, because there's no truth? Do you believe it is the truth that Jesus said that? And do you believe what He said is truth?



What's a lie when there's no truth? What constitutes fake, with no real to base it on?

Or is there really truth as a reference point, to know what a lie is?

On what do you base your admonition of Tintin?

If you see something as just an act, then you must believe there is something being portrayed that is not based in truth. You must compare this portrayal to truth to come to the conclusion that it is, indeed, an act. If there is no truth, what is an act?

You reveal over and over in your posts that even you don't believe it when you say there's no truth. Because when you speak without monitoring your every word to make absolutely sure that it fits neatly into your erroneous philosophy, you let us all see the gaping holes in your logic, and the many contradictions within your own words. You can't even keep up with yourself. Your mistakes in keeping with your own philosophy put it plainly for everyone to see that no matter how many times you say there's no truth, how loud you say it, how many people you say it to, etc., you know there is truth. That is revealed in the fact that you use truth to judge fake and lies in your own admonition. And then what: It ends up admonishing you.

There is truth. You might as well stop trying to convince us otherwise because you can't even convince yourself.

His brain must be fried.

 

[atwhatcost]

So, Real. I hope you come back to see where you missed entirely with this thread, so you can consider better thinking/God.

 

[Tintin]

Here's a little story, an apologist was speaking to a bunch of university students, one spoke up and said, "There are no absolutes!" The apologist replied, "Are you absolutely sure?"

Probably Berkeley.