A "Thank You" to Jason

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Now don't go getting the Big Head about this, 'cause I still think you come off with some VERY strange things that I can't make fit into my beliefs if I pounded them in with a sledge hammer.

But due to a lot of things discussed on the "Self Defense" thread, I have changed some things.

I used to "carry" on my late night walks with my dog. Maybe sometimes not a pistol... perhaps only a small baseball bat...... but always "something." I have decided to stop doing that (have gone "unarmed" for three nights, now.) And I have your thread to thank for that... and you.

Thanks. It feels much more "right" to me than when I knew I could possibly kill someone for no more than maybe trying to rob me of a few bucks.

That's all...........
 
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question, why try to reason with someone you will never ever agree with. even if you uses loving words, or hateful word, your still going to be split. ie we dont define rite or wrong, we follow in faith, regardless of rite or wrong. yet if you claim there is a rite or wrong, then it must be a human rite or wrong.
 
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Willie-T said:
Now don't go getting the Big Head about this, 'cause I still think you come off with some VERY strange things that I can't make fit into my beliefs if I pounded them in with a sledge hammer.

But due to a lot of things discussed on the "Self Defense" thread, I have changed some things.

I used to "carry" on my late night walks with my dog. Maybe sometimes not a pistol... perhaps only a small baseball bat...... but always "something." I have decided to stop doing that (have gone "unarmed" for three nights, now.) And I have your thread to thank for that... and you.

Thanks. It feels much more "right" to me than when I knew I could possibly kill someone for no more than maybe trying to rob me of a few bucks.

That's all...........
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Miss two little punctuation marks and change one little letter in a word, and the meaning of one of your paragraphs was a whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? to me.

Here's how I read your second paragraph.
I used to carry on my late night talks with my dog. Maybe sometimes not a pistol... perhaps only a small baseball bat...... but always "something." I have decided to stop doing that.

Sounded like you're a a suit short of a full deck and for some reason you were having grand conversations about weapons with your doggy. So, now, I have to wonder, will your dog miss those late night conversations. lol
 
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Miss two little punctuation marks and change one little letter in a word, and the meaning of one of your paragraphs was a whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? to me.

Here's how I read your second paragraph.
I used to carry on my late night talks with my dog. Maybe sometimes not a pistol... perhaps only a small baseball bat...... but always "something." I have decided to stop doing that.

Sounded like you're a a suit short of a full deck and for some reason you were having grand conversations about weapons with your doggy. So, now, I have to wonder, will your dog miss those late night conversations. lol
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I'm just leaving for a walk with him, but remind me to tell you a great tale about that....
 
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I wanna hear the story, too! :)
 
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Willie-T said:
Now don't go getting the Big Head about this, 'cause I still think you come off with some VERY strange things that I can't make fit into my beliefs if I pounded them in with a sledge hammer.

But due to a lot of things discussed on the "Self Defense" thread, I have changed some things.

I used to "carry" on my late night walks with my dog. Maybe sometimes not a pistol... perhaps only a small baseball bat...... but always "something." I have decided to stop doing that (have gone "unarmed" for three nights, now.) And I have your thread to thank for that... and you.

Thanks. It feels much more "right" to me than when I knew I could possibly kill someone for no more than maybe trying to rob me of a few bucks.

That's all...........
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Dear Willie:

You are most welcome. I am glad the LORD led you to trust in Him for your protection and that what I had said with the Scriptures was helpful to you. Praise be unto the LORD for sure. I think the more you trust in Him for your protection, the more you will see that there is nothing to fear in this world if we love God and dedicate our lives to Him.

On the other hand: If we are persecuted for our faith, it should be considered an honor that we suffer even as Christ suffered. Either way, God gets all the glory (Whether He protects us from harm or whether He chooses to let us live out the life of Christ in our lives by being persecuted for our faith).

Anyways, blessings, peace, and love be unto you from the LORD Jesus Christ.

With loving kindness to you in Christ,

Sincerely,

~ Jason.


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BenFTW

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Jason0047 said:
Dear Willie:

You are most welcome. I am glad the LORD led you to trust in Him for your protection and that what I had said with the Scriptures was helpful to you. Praise be unto the LORD for sure. I think the more you trust in Him for your protection, the more you will see that there is nothing to fear in this world if we love God and dedicate our lives to Him.

On the other hand: If we are persecuted for our faith, it should be considered an honor that we suffer even as Christ suffered. Either way, God gets all the glory (Whether He protects us from harm or whether He chooses to let us live out the life of Christ in our lives by being persecuted for our faith).

Anyways, blessings, peace, and love be unto you from the LORD Jesus Christ.

With loving kindness to you in Christ,

Sincerely,

~ Jason.


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*reads the bold* And then he picks up his shotgun for his walk. lol
 
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BenFTW said:
*reads the bold* And then he picks up his shotgun for his walk. lol
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Are you saying you are picking up the shutgun or are you talking about me? If you are referring to me: I never owned a gun nor do I ever intend to, either. If you carry a gun when you walk: - Is your trust in God or the weapon?
 
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Jason0047 said:
Are you saying you are picking up the shutgun or are you talking about me? If you are referring to me: I never owned a gun nor do I ever intend to, either. If you carry a gun when you walk: - Is your trust in God or the weapon?
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It was a a joke Jason. He has confidence in God's protection and thanked you for that revelation, but then in your post you say, "On the other hand" and go on to explain how God might not protect you, but rejoice in your sufferings as it is an honor to suffer as Christ suffered. No one likes suffering, therefore if God wouldn't protect him, his shotgun sure will! lol :D
 
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It was a a joke Jason. He has confidence in God's protection and thanked you for that revelation, but then in your post you say, "On the other hand" and go on to explain how God might not protect you, but rejoice in your sufferings as it is an honor to suffer as Christ suffered. No one likes suffering, therefore if God wouldn't protect him, his shotgun sure will! lol
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But then one is not suffering for Christ then if they use their shotgun; For if such were the case, then they would not be giving him the glory and walking as He walked.

However, it is not a contradiction that God can save His people and yet later at another time in their life persecute them for His glory. We see this in the New Testament.
 
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Jason0047 said:
But then one is not suffering for Christ then if they use their shotgun; For if such were the case, then they would not be giving him the glory and walking as He walked.

However, it is not a contradiction that God can save His people and yet later at another time in their life persecute them for His glory. We see this in the New Testament.
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It's okay Jason, it went over your head. lol This isn't something to be debated, its a joke. He had confidence in God's protection then you tell him God may not protect him. So he is like "Wait, what? God might not protect me? *slowly puts pistol in holster*.

PS: I think you killed the joke by now.
 
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BenFTW said:
It's okay Jason, it went over your head. lol This isn't something to be debated, its a joke. He had confidence in God's protection then you tell him God may not protect him. So he is like "Wait, what? God might not protect me? *slowly puts pistol in holster*.

PS: I think you killed the joke by now.
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But you make a good point even in your joke. How does one determine when to be persecuted for their faith? Does one put the gun back in their holster at certain times they just sort of feel like being persecuted?
 
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Jason0047 said:
But you make a good point even in your joke. How does one determine when to be persecuted for their faith? Does one put the gun back in their holster at certain times they just sort of feel like being persecuted?
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Where does it state for us to endure persecution, to sit and take it? Did not Paul depart from one city to another so as to live and preach another day? He knew of God's protection, and yet even he ran from persecution and areas that were getting too heated so as to be able to preach another day to win more souls for Christ. He used wisdom in determining whether he overstayed his welcome or not, and also the danger of whether he would be killed and not be able to continue the commission the Lord gave him.
 
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BenFTW said:
Where does it state for us to endure persecution, to sit and take it? Did not Paul depart from one city to another so as to live and preach another day? He knew of God's protection, and yet even he ran from persecution and areas that were getting too heated so as to be able to preach another day to win more souls for Christ. He used wisdom in determining whether he overstayed his welcome or not, and also the danger of whether he would be killed and not be able to continue the commission the Lord gave him.
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God calls us to sometimes flee and God sometimes protects us and other times God calls us to suffer. For the apostles were persecuted for their faith. If that was not God's will, then it would not have happened. Also, Scripture says,

"For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:" (1 Peter 2:21).
 
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Hi guys It was weird to see Jason talking in a thank you Jason thread. But I get it now. By the way Willie I too am touched by your original comment. One act makes for a ripple affect. God bless you for that.

"If I am being poured out as a drink offering on the sacrifice and service of your faith, I am glad and rejoice with you all." Philippians 2:17.

The question is are we willing to sacrifice ourselves for the work of another believer- to pour out your life sacrificially for the ministry and faith of others? Or do we say, "I am not willing to be poured out right now, and I don't want God to tell me how to serve Him. I want to chose the place of my own sacrifice. And I want to have certain people watching me and saying, "Well done."

It is one thing to follow Gods way of service if you are regarded as a hero, but quite another thing if the road marked out for you by God requires becoming a doormat under other's peoples feet. The seed in the yard that feel on soil is ever so close to sprouting except for that very hard shell around the seed. Until God breaks that shell, we can't sprout it's potential bounty. God's purpose may be to teach you to say, " I know how to be abased...." Philippians 4:12.

Are we all ready to be sacrificed like that? This isn't an issue of protection it is an issue of dedication and surrender. Are we ready to be less than a mere drop in the bucket--to be so totally insignificant that no one remembers you even if they think of those you served?

Are we willing to give and be poured out until we are used and exhausted--not seeking to be ministered to, but to minister! Without fanfare? I see that some of us have a harder time than others maintaining a saintly attitude, because they feel such service is beneath their dignity. But when the hard shell of that seed breaks, so breaks Gods provisions and blessings and Spiritual reality. Your personal reality found in Christ.
 
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Jason0047 said:
But you make a good point even in your joke. How does one determine when to be persecuted for their faith? Does one put the gun back in their holster at certain times they just sort of feel like being persecuted?
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How is this about being persecuted for their faith? From what I read, Willie had a fear of being randomly attacked, not for his faith. Honestly, I can't imagine having the feeling of having to carry a weapon with me, even on late night walks. I'm glad you have been delivered of that Willie :)
 
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Thanks. It feels much more "right" to me than when I knew I could possibly kill someone for no more than maybe trying to rob me of a few bucks.
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Except for the fact that they could kill you while robbing you of a few bucks. After all, people have been murdered for their shoes or less! Drugged or drunk criminals are even more unstable.

Listening to Jason is dangerous. I truly believe that.
 
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Budman said:
Except for the fact that they could kill you while robbing you of a few bucks. After all, people have been murdered for their shoes or less! Drugged or drunk criminals are even more unstable.

Listening to Jason is dangerous. I truly believe that.
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It is written...

"I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far; but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. Convinced of this, I know that I will remain, and I will continue with all of you for your progress and joy in the faith," (Philippians 1:23-25).​

So which is far better? To depart and be with Christ? Or is it to be here in fear of your life?

As for saying I should not be listened to: Well, it is not really me or my opinion that anyone is listening to here. It is the Word of God that convicts a person dear sir. I plant the seed (with the Word) and then God gives the increase. I am nothing. Christ is everything. People will know false prophets by their fruit. So if you accuse someone of being false, you better be able to show their fruit that is bad.
 
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Trusting God is the life that we live as we walk by faith. Being practical and wise in the midst of adversity within a crooked, evil and perverse world is another. Human depravity can not be trusted and when we have so much of it being expressed in this life according to the course of this world and in certain trends of thinking among all people we should do whatever it takes to utilize caution and protect ourselves when possible. We live to be at peace with all men as much as possible and with those who are not at peace we use caution and should be ready to defend ourselves and others when human depravity takes over the heart. People do strange things strung out on drugs (prescription or illegal) and we should avoid confrontations at all cost unless God leads otherwise. If it is not our cup then we can utilize the sword, but if we do not have a sword then we are not prepared and we lack what is needed. If a believer wants to bear arms. it is not because he does not trust God but instead is walking in wisdom because of the times that we live. If a believer is not going to bear arms because they trust God for protection, then tear your fence down, leave your home and car unlocked and trust God in the same way.
 
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Willie-T said:
I'm just leaving for a walk with him, but remind me to tell you a great tale about that....
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Wow! Really long walks with your dog. It's 9 hours later. Kind of hoped to see your story on here after reading this. :D
 
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