Jesus said we will know false prophets by their fruit. So it is not an empty accusation. Like I said, I have been discussing this topic with OSAS proponents for a long time now and I know my opponent very well (in how they behave and in what they believe).
Well, not all gospels are the same. There is the one true gospel of Jesus Christ that promotes repentance and righteous living and then there are false gospels that do not do so. For we are told to put away outside of the church that brother who is behaving wickedly (or in a sinful manner within the church).
"But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no not to eat.
For what have I to do to judge them also that are outside? do not you judge them that are within? But them that are outside God judges. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person." (1 Corinthians 5:11-13).
This is within the unity o fthe Spirit within the true church of God. This does not include those who have accepted a false Christ or a false gospel that allows for one to sin and still be saved or to think that they will forever sin because of some fallen sin nature.
Yes, very good. This actually refutes the OSAS proponent's false way of thinking that they will never fall away from the faith. For if a believer sins (that Paul lists above) and they do not repent and forsake those sins, then they will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
Again, this actually refutes the OSAS Proponent because the Pharisees do what the father (the devil) desires and Jesus says they are not of God. This lines up with what John says in 1 John 3:8. For he says that he that sins is of the devil. He then says he that is born of God does righteousness. However, the OSAS proponent will claim this as heresy and Works Salvationism. Some in the OSAS camp say that one can even sin and still be saved at this point. However, what the OSAS proponent fails to understand is that it is Christ who does the good work within the believer. The believer merely surrenders to Christ and the Lord works his righteousness in their heart and lives. That is why it is not works salvation. For if God lives in you, then surely the fruit will be evident to show that (See 2 Corinthians 13:5).
Well, if you were to keep reading past John 3:16 (Which is the #1 most popular verse in the Bible), then you would also come across the "Condemnation" in Scripture in John 3:19-21. For it says everyone who does evil hate the light. So if one is an OSAS proponent who thinks they can sin and still be saved does not understand the "Condemnation" in what it says.
Well, when you read 2 Peter 3:16, you also have to read the verses that proceed it. For it says we look for the promise of a new heavens and new earth wherein dwells righteousness. This is why we are to be found of him in peace, and without spot and blameless.
"Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, in which dwells righteousness. Therefore, beloved, seeing that you look for such things, be diligent that you may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless." (1 Peter 3:13-14).
So 1 Peter 3:16 does not support a sin and still be saved doctrine or a belief that you will always sin at some point in the future.
Belief is synonymous with faith (See James 2:17-19); And faith is described as both a belief and as an action in Hebrews 11. Faith is also said to be dead without works, too (James 2:17). For Titus 1:16 says that there are those who deny Him in works. Hebrews 5:9 says Jesus became the author of eternal salvation to all who OBEY Him. Jesus said, why do you call me LORD, LORD, if you do not do what I say? Jesus said if you love me, you will keep His commandments. In John 14:23, Jesus says, "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." John 12:48 says if we reject the words of Jesus, then those very words will judge us on the last day. Paul says, if any man speaks contrary to the words of Jesus Christ and the doctrine of Godliness is proud and knows nothing (1 Timothy 6:3-4).
Well, I believe Jesus can be found in many shadows and types in the Old Testament. But this verse does not help you to prove OSAS. For when you read John 5:39 you also have to read verse 29 when Jesus says,
"And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of condemnation."
Did you catch that? It says that they that have done evil will be at the resurrection of damnation. So the OSAS proponent who thinks they can sin (do evil) and still be saved will not be at the resurrection of life because they have not done good.
Yes, this verse disproves the OSAS Proponent's false belief that all future sin is forgiven them. For if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins. Meaning confessing sin = forgiveness of sin.
Being one in Christ Jesus only applies to those saints who are faithful to Christ. However, in my experience in talking with OSAS proponents, I have been called some pretty nasty stuff and have been falsely accused many times. But the Scriptures talk about how this was going to happen, though.
"But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now." (Galatians 4:29).
"One day Sarah saw the son that Hagar the Egyptian had borne to Abraham, poking fun at her son Isaac." (Genesis 21:9 MSG).
What type of sheep will never perish and not be snatched out of his hand? The passage says it is sheep that FOLLOW Jesus. This is not talking about rebellious sheep being dragged on leashes by their necks. For Isaiah says, we are like sheep who have gone astray. So it is possible for sheep to go astray and be lost. The key question is: What type of sheep do you choose to be? A sheep that follows? Or a sheep that goes astray?
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