Is the Devil bound right now...?
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Although, John informs us here that it was the death upon the Cross which triggers the binding of Satan...
Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world shall be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all to Myself. But He said this, signifying by what kind of death He was about to die. (John 12.31 - 33)
Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world shall be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all to Myself. But He said this, signifying by what kind of death He was about to die. (John 12.31 - 33)
In Eph 2:2, who is the prince of the power of the air who walks with the sons of disobedience? This after the resurrection. Or do you mean that he is bound to earth after being thrown out of heaven...and this is your meaning of being bound?
Being bound has nothing to do with demon (Satan) possessing anyone. It ONLY deals with the fact that Christ defeated death, thus binding Satan from have absolute control over man. The whole meaning is really locked into one verse, Heb 2:14. There are several others, but that is why Christ came and came as Incarnated man.
Observe...
Since, then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, in like manner He Himself also shared the same things, that through death He might cause to cease the one having the power of death, that is, the devil; (Heb 2.14)
Your example further proves my point, as the physical death of Jesus is what rendered the Devil ‘katargeó….i.e. literally 'to make completely inoperative'…thus, bound.
Since, then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, in like manner He Himself also shared the same things, that through death He might cause to cease the one having the power of death, that is, the devil; (Heb 2.14)
Your example further proves my point, as the physical death of Jesus is what rendered the Devil ‘katargeó….i.e. literally 'to make completely inoperative'…thus, bound.
I think that verse means that Jesus stopped satan from stealing our souls, since Jesus died to save them. Not that he bound satan from doing evil, because obviously he's sowing seeds of evil all over the earth right now.. jmo
In the story of scripture going right back to Gen 3:15, Satan knew that at some time someone would come to defeat Him.
All through the Gospels it is clearly portrayed that Satan, through the demons knew Jesus. Satan, through the Wise Men and then the slaughter of all babies under 2 was an effort to defeat and destroy Jesus. Satan actually thought He had defeated Christ by killing him, however he was mightily shocked when Christ arose from the dead.
It is the actual resurrection that gives life, not the death. Death makes it possible for Christ to be raised and gives life to the world. This is also clearly delineated in I Cor 15 which puts the resurrection as central in Christ's atonement. Without the resurrection, nothing is valid.
Why would death even bound Satan when that was the tool that he used to destroy man and this creation. His tool was destroyed by Christ's Incarnated resurrection. Satan would have been an eternal victor if Christ ONLY died.
All through the Gospels it is clearly portrayed that Satan, through the demons knew Jesus. Satan, through the Wise Men and then the slaughter of all babies under 2 was an effort to defeat and destroy Jesus. Satan actually thought He had defeated Christ by killing him, however he was mightily shocked when Christ arose from the dead.
It is the actual resurrection that gives life, not the death. Death makes it possible for Christ to be raised and gives life to the world. This is also clearly delineated in I Cor 15 which puts the resurrection as central in Christ's atonement. Without the resurrection, nothing is valid.
Why would death even bound Satan when that was the tool that he used to destroy man and this creation. His tool was destroyed by Christ's Incarnated resurrection. Satan would have been an eternal victor if Christ ONLY died.
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You seem to be confusing events here...
As you can see, even in your very own scriptural example, the Devil is rendered impotent (i.e. bound) at the Cross, when Jesus is crucified.
There is no mention of binding Satan at Jesus' Resurrection.
If you think otherwise, then you would need to defend that stance with scripture...
First, you seem to think that the meaning of binding means Satan is hog tied and cannot operate. It has no such meaning. Death is the tool of Satan, not Christ.
The story of Jesus in the Gospels is about Christ taking the spoils of Satan.
There are numerable texts that describe Christ as a robber, thief Matt 26:25, transgressor Is 53:12 and in Rev 3:3 as a thief again. Then Luke 12:39 Jesus calls Satan a good man. A good man if he had known would have watched and not have his house broken into. Matt 12:29. Jesus states that he bound the "strong man". By so doing He, Jesus would be able to take the spoils, goods from his possession. This house of Satan is Hades. Christ at His death, decended into Hades and took those held captive by Satan.
When Christ was crucified His death represented the second death that would be the end of man if not redeemed. He decended into Hell. When he rose from the dead, Christ had bound Satan, in that He now has limited power over the second death. Christ also took with him those of the OT saints. This is the taking of the spoils of the strong man, Satan. Rev 20: 1-3. The devil is bound in that he lost some of his power over death and Hades. From the time of Christ's first coming Christ's Church is formed where the Gospel is preached. Man is summoned to the Kingdom of God and the devil is barred from preventing their entrance into it. The abyss refers to the hearts of those who have rejected God. That is the evil one sees in the world today. Satan is working mightly to overcome but knows that he will fail.
When Christ was crucified His death represented the death that would be the end of man if not redeemed. He decended into Hell. When he rose from the dead, Christ had bound Satan, in that He now has limited power over death. Christ also took with him those of the OT saints. This is the taking of the spoils of the strong man, Satan. Rev 20: 1-3. The devil is bound in that he lost his absolute power over death and Hades. From the time of Christ's first coming Christ's Church is formed where the Gospel is preached. Man is summoned to the Kingdom of God and the devil is barred from preventing their entrance into it. The abyss refers to the hearts of those who have rejected God. That is the evil one sees in the world today. Satan is working mightly to overcome but knows that he will fail.
Christ did not remove death from us in this life. We will still need to die once in order to rid ourselves of this body of sin. That dead mortal being will be raised to eternal existence at Christ's second coming. Then even this last power, all death, of Satan is defeated permanently.
Also, other scriptures clearly portray Christ coming to defeat Satan and His power. Heb 2:14-17, even Heb 2:9, II Tim 1:10, Col 2:15. Christ's power is in His resurrection, not just His death. Death alone would be meaningless and as I mentioned before, Satan would have become the victor, rather than Christ.
The story of Jesus in the Gospels is about Christ taking the spoils of Satan.
There are numerable texts that describe Christ as a robber, thief Matt 26:25, transgressor Is 53:12 and in Rev 3:3 as a thief again. Then Luke 12:39 Jesus calls Satan a good man. A good man if he had known would have watched and not have his house broken into. Matt 12:29. Jesus states that he bound the "strong man". By so doing He, Jesus would be able to take the spoils, goods from his possession. This house of Satan is Hades. Christ at His death, decended into Hades and took those held captive by Satan.
When Christ was crucified His death represented the second death that would be the end of man if not redeemed. He decended into Hell. When he rose from the dead, Christ had bound Satan, in that He now has limited power over the second death. Christ also took with him those of the OT saints. This is the taking of the spoils of the strong man, Satan. Rev 20: 1-3. The devil is bound in that he lost some of his power over death and Hades. From the time of Christ's first coming Christ's Church is formed where the Gospel is preached. Man is summoned to the Kingdom of God and the devil is barred from preventing their entrance into it. The abyss refers to the hearts of those who have rejected God. That is the evil one sees in the world today. Satan is working mightly to overcome but knows that he will fail.
When Christ was crucified His death represented the death that would be the end of man if not redeemed. He decended into Hell. When he rose from the dead, Christ had bound Satan, in that He now has limited power over death. Christ also took with him those of the OT saints. This is the taking of the spoils of the strong man, Satan. Rev 20: 1-3. The devil is bound in that he lost his absolute power over death and Hades. From the time of Christ's first coming Christ's Church is formed where the Gospel is preached. Man is summoned to the Kingdom of God and the devil is barred from preventing their entrance into it. The abyss refers to the hearts of those who have rejected God. That is the evil one sees in the world today. Satan is working mightly to overcome but knows that he will fail.
Christ did not remove death from us in this life. We will still need to die once in order to rid ourselves of this body of sin. That dead mortal being will be raised to eternal existence at Christ's second coming. Then even this last power, all death, of Satan is defeated permanently.
Also, other scriptures clearly portray Christ coming to defeat Satan and His power. Heb 2:14-17, even Heb 2:9, II Tim 1:10, Col 2:15. Christ's power is in His resurrection, not just His death. Death alone would be meaningless and as I mentioned before, Satan would have become the victor, rather than Christ.
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You are not yet scripturally buttressing your interjection that Satan was bound at Jesus’ Resurrection.
In fact, the scriptural example that you provided (Heb 2.14) emphatically supports my position that Satan was rendered impotent ‘katargeó’ when Jesus was crucified…NOT when He was Resurrected.
Show us your very best scriptural example to prove your assertion…and exegete it for us…
Simple.
Again, that binding was consummated with the resurrection. If you think that Satan was bound by Christ's death, cite texts that state this and that Christ would have overcome death simply by dying. If death is the tool and power of Satan, just how would Christ's death bind him? If Christ only died, then Satan is the victor, not Christ. Christ would have failed to overcome death the power of Satan. The key to understanding is the result. Christ was not held by death as men are, but arose from death and in doing so, defeated death, Satan and gave life to the world.
I Cor 15, if you read it carefully without your current understanding you will see the centrality of the Resurrection in the atonement.
I Cor 15, if you read it carefully without your current understanding you will see the centrality of the Resurrection in the atonement.
Your verses have nothing to do with binding of Satan. So they don't need refuting. If you want to use those verses, provide the logical argument, theologically that Christ's death bound Satan, when death is the power of Satan, not Christ.
As long as Christ remained dead, Satan has control over Christ. You need to show just how Christ's death bound Satan, rather than what would be the binding of Christ if Christ ONLY died.
As long as Christ remained dead, Satan has control over Christ. You need to show just how Christ's death bound Satan, rather than what would be the binding of Christ if Christ ONLY died.
Observe and learn...
Here's the logical argument that you wanted...
Heb 2.14
επει ουν τα παιδια κεκοινωνηκεν αιματος και σαρκος και αυτος παραπλησιως μετεσχεν των αυτων ινα δια του θανατου καταργηση τον το κρατος εχοντα του θανατου τουτ εστιν τον διαβολον
epei oun ta paidia kekoinōnēken haimatos kai sarkos kai autos paraplēsiōs meteschen tōn autōn hina dia tou thanatou katargēsē ton to kratos echonta tou thanatou tout' estin ton diabolon
Since, then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, in like manner He Himself also shared the same things, that through death He might render entirely idle the one having the power of death, that is, the devil;
καταργηση = ‘katargēsē’
‘katargēsē’ definition:
Strong’s #G2673. Aorist tense verb, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] person singular. The Devil is to be reduced to inactivity through the death of Christ (Heb 2.14). The Epistle to the Hebrews fills out this declaration by stating that through the death of Christ even the one who has power over death, the devil, is condemned to inactivity or ineffectiveness in relation to the Christian (Heb 2.14).To cause something to come to an end or no longer in existence, abolish, wipe out, set aside. To render idle, unemployed, inactivate, inoperative. To cause a person or thing to have no further efficiency. To deprive of force, influence, power. To cause to cease, put an end to, do away with, annul, abolish. To cease, to pass away, be done away. To be severed from, separated from, discharged from, loosed from any one. To terminate all intercourse with one. to be (render) entirely idle (useless), literally or figuratively: - abolish, cease, cumber, deliver, destroy, do away, become (make) of no (none, without) effect, fail, loose, bring (come) to nought, put away (down), vanish away, make void. To cause something to be unproductive, use up, exhaust, waste. To cause something to lose its power or effectiveness, invalidate, make powerless. From #G2596 & #G691.
Strong’s #G2596. Down from.
Strong’s #G691. To be idle.
References:
Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (TDNT), Gerhard Kittel, Gerhard Friedrich, & Geoffrey W. Bromiley, volume one, pp. 452 - 454
A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian Literature, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] edition (BDAG), Frederick William Danker, pp. 525 - 526
Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Joseph H. Thayer, p. 336
The Complete Wordstudy Dictionary of the New Testament, Warren Baker, Warren Baker, based on the lexicons of Edward Robinson & John Parkhurst, pp. 841 - 842
The New Strong’s expanded exhaustive concordance of the Bible (red-letter edition), James Strong, LL.D., S.T.D., p. 133
Time to change your worldview...
Here's the logical argument that you wanted...
Heb 2.14
επει ουν τα παιδια κεκοινωνηκεν αιματος και σαρκος και αυτος παραπλησιως μετεσχεν των αυτων ινα δια του θανατου καταργηση τον το κρατος εχοντα του θανατου τουτ εστιν τον διαβολον
epei oun ta paidia kekoinōnēken haimatos kai sarkos kai autos paraplēsiōs meteschen tōn autōn hina dia tou thanatou katargēsē ton to kratos echonta tou thanatou tout' estin ton diabolon
Since, then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, in like manner He Himself also shared the same things, that through death He might render entirely idle the one having the power of death, that is, the devil;
καταργηση = ‘katargēsē’
‘katargēsē’ definition:
Strong’s #G2673. Aorist tense verb, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] person singular. The Devil is to be reduced to inactivity through the death of Christ (Heb 2.14). The Epistle to the Hebrews fills out this declaration by stating that through the death of Christ even the one who has power over death, the devil, is condemned to inactivity or ineffectiveness in relation to the Christian (Heb 2.14).To cause something to come to an end or no longer in existence, abolish, wipe out, set aside. To render idle, unemployed, inactivate, inoperative. To cause a person or thing to have no further efficiency. To deprive of force, influence, power. To cause to cease, put an end to, do away with, annul, abolish. To cease, to pass away, be done away. To be severed from, separated from, discharged from, loosed from any one. To terminate all intercourse with one. to be (render) entirely idle (useless), literally or figuratively: - abolish, cease, cumber, deliver, destroy, do away, become (make) of no (none, without) effect, fail, loose, bring (come) to nought, put away (down), vanish away, make void. To cause something to be unproductive, use up, exhaust, waste. To cause something to lose its power or effectiveness, invalidate, make powerless. From #G2596 & #G691.
Strong’s #G2596. Down from.
Strong’s #G691. To be idle.
References:
Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (TDNT), Gerhard Kittel, Gerhard Friedrich, & Geoffrey W. Bromiley, volume one, pp. 452 - 454
A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian Literature, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] edition (BDAG), Frederick William Danker, pp. 525 - 526
Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Joseph H. Thayer, p. 336
The Complete Wordstudy Dictionary of the New Testament, Warren Baker, Warren Baker, based on the lexicons of Edward Robinson & John Parkhurst, pp. 841 - 842
The New Strong’s expanded exhaustive concordance of the Bible (red-letter edition), James Strong, LL.D., S.T.D., p. 133
Time to change your worldview...
Re: Observe and learn...
You didn't carry it far enough. It is NOT the death that does the binding. Heb 2:14 is the declaration of Christ's Incarnation, He needed to become like us, have a mortal human nature so that He could die. Having died, which is Satan's power can only be bound IF CHRIST DEFEATS DEATH. THE ONLY WAY TO DEFEAT DEATH IS TO HAVE LIFE. CHRIST AROSE FROM THE DEAD. That confirms the binding of Satan. Death is NO longer a power He controls. He no longer has dominion over man or this world.
If Christ simply died, it would do nothing except to guarantee that Satan is still in control and has the power of death. You missed the whole meaning of the Incarnation and why it was necessary. You missed the central meaning of Christ's Atonement.
Your source also misses the whole meaning of why Christ needed to be Incarnated and to die and be raised to life. Christ did not defeat death by dying, but died so that He could raise our natures to life, thus defeating death.
You didn't carry it far enough. It is NOT the death that does the binding. Heb 2:14 is the declaration of Christ's Incarnation, He needed to become like us, have a mortal human nature so that He could die. Having died, which is Satan's power can only be bound IF CHRIST DEFEATS DEATH. THE ONLY WAY TO DEFEAT DEATH IS TO HAVE LIFE. CHRIST AROSE FROM THE DEAD. That confirms the binding of Satan. Death is NO longer a power He controls. He no longer has dominion over man or this world.
If Christ simply died, it would do nothing except to guarantee that Satan is still in control and has the power of death. You missed the whole meaning of the Incarnation and why it was necessary. You missed the central meaning of Christ's Atonement.
Your source also misses the whole meaning of why Christ needed to be Incarnated and to die and be raised to life. Christ did not defeat death by dying, but died so that He could raise our natures to life, thus defeating death.