Is the Devil bound right now...?
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Re: Keep running...
Your Greek is not in question. It is your interpretation theologically/scripturally what it means. You cannot even get out of your personal box and explain just how your view aligns with scripture. You make the claim that either the Cross or death binds Satan but cannot show just what that means, or what it accomplishes, or how it effects our salvation.
So far you are the one ignoring scripture. I gave you the understanding that has held unchanged for 2000 years from the beginning. There is ample historical support, yet you cannot show your view to be other than your unique personal interpretation.
Your Greek is not in question. It is your interpretation theologically/scripturally what it means. You cannot even get out of your personal box and explain just how your view aligns with scripture. You make the claim that either the Cross or death binds Satan but cannot show just what that means, or what it accomplishes, or how it effects our salvation.
So far you are the one ignoring scripture. I gave you the understanding that has held unchanged for 2000 years from the beginning. There is ample historical support, yet you cannot show your view to be other than your unique personal interpretation.
Re: Observe and learn...
Well that depends on whether the 'thousand year (long period of time)' reign of Christ is taking place NOW having bound Satan (Matt 12.28-29) or whether, as you erroneously believe, it will occur during a spurious millennium.
The king of the angels and many of the angelic host are certainly bound now for they will be released in Rev 9.1-11. And this is in accordance with JESUS clear teaching that Satan has been bound (Matt 12.28-29) and that powerful evil angels were led in triumph by the risen Christ (Col 1.15). You simply ignore Scriptures that don't agree with you
Well that depends on whether the 'thousand year (long period of time)' reign of Christ is taking place NOW having bound Satan (Matt 12.28-29) or whether, as you erroneously believe, it will occur during a spurious millennium.
The king of the angels and many of the angelic host are certainly bound now for they will be released in Rev 9.1-11. And this is in accordance with JESUS clear teaching that Satan has been bound (Matt 12.28-29) and that powerful evil angels were led in triumph by the risen Christ (Col 1.15). You simply ignore Scriptures that don't agree with you
Re: Keep running...
Seems you have a problem following the discussion. I already stated that there have been 2000 years of Greek language use and understanding and none of them have ever come to your conclusion. Your batting thin air.
It s not your Greek, but your understanding of what it means scripturally and theologically. A meaning, as I stated before, has existed the same from the beginning in Greek. That understanding was explained to you. Yet you think that your feeble attempt at being a theologian can change the meaning that the Holy Spirit gave with the Apostles before the NT you have had even been put to ink.
Seems you have a problem following the discussion. I already stated that there have been 2000 years of Greek language use and understanding and none of them have ever come to your conclusion. Your batting thin air.
It s not your Greek, but your understanding of what it means scripturally and theologically. A meaning, as I stated before, has existed the same from the beginning in Greek. That understanding was explained to you. Yet you think that your feeble attempt at being a theologian can change the meaning that the Holy Spirit gave with the Apostles before the NT you have had even been put to ink.
I think there is a certain point indeed that in many ways Satan was bound moreso to his ultimate destiny because of Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection. After all since Jesus be raised by God back to His right hand, there's no way Satan could even potentially stop Jesus now, but then there never was a chance to begin with for God is mightiest. However by that standard then Satan was bound from Genesis 1 onwards with Jesus being in the beginning with God.
As to the specific binding though into the bottomless pit like Revelation details that has not happened yet. It's rather simple. First said pit has to be opened first. That opening is also mentioned earlier on in Revelation. No where in history or in this current time has that happened, but time still marches forward. It will all happen one day though and those days are not far from us, and even that is not the end, but Jesus does come quickly. Praise Jesus and may those few blessed of that generation endure.
As to the specific binding though into the bottomless pit like Revelation details that has not happened yet. It's rather simple. First said pit has to be opened first. That opening is also mentioned earlier on in Revelation. No where in history or in this current time has that happened, but time still marches forward. It will all happen one day though and those days are not far from us, and even that is not the end, but Jesus does come quickly. Praise Jesus and may those few blessed of that generation endure.
Re: Keep running...
'Stating' something and 'Demonstrating' something are two entirely different things.
For some bizarre reason, you think that you can make an assertion about Greek (of which you know absolutely NOTHING about), and without so much as a link for reference....and expect to somehow have everyone believe you.
Nope.
I have proven my point, that Satan was bound at The Cross, with the Greek, complete with verifiable references.
You have not.
Simple fact.
Now...you have been reduced to ignoring ALL of my posts that directly address the Greek...and you sophomorically claim nothing has even been rebutted.
Deal with it...
Provide one of your Catholic references for your position.
If not...well, you have nothing but your unreferenced opinion......again...
'Stating' something and 'Demonstrating' something are two entirely different things.
For some bizarre reason, you think that you can make an assertion about Greek (of which you know absolutely NOTHING about), and without so much as a link for reference....and expect to somehow have everyone believe you.
Nope.
I have proven my point, that Satan was bound at The Cross, with the Greek, complete with verifiable references.
You have not.
Simple fact.
Now...you have been reduced to ignoring ALL of my posts that directly address the Greek...and you sophomorically claim nothing has even been rebutted.
Deal with it...
Provide one of your Catholic references for your position.
If not...well, you have nothing but your unreferenced opinion......again...
Matthew 24:32-34
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
[SUP]33 [/SUP]So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
[SUP]33 [/SUP]So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Demonstrates that one will know when the end of time approaches by the signs preceding the day. Indeed though it is because Jesus was crucified and resurrected by God and prepares for the day.
For that dragon to be bound for the 1,000 years in the bottomless pit the pit must be opened first. So my question to you is simple. Where in time and place has that pit been opened?
For that dragon to be bound for the 1,000 years in the bottomless pit the pit must be opened first. So my question to you is simple. Where in time and place has that pit been opened?
Re: Observe and learn...
Jesus must have been stupid to say he is bound and then inspire Peter to write he is walking around seeking whom he may devour....wake up PAL
Well that depends on whether the 'thousand year (long period of time)' reign of Christ is taking place NOW having bound Satan (Matt 12.28-29) or whether, as you erroneously believe, it will occur during a spurious millennium.
The king of the angels and many of the angelic host are certainly bound now for they will be released in Rev 9.1-11. And this is in accordance with JESUS clear teaching that Satan has been bound (Matt 12.28-29) and that powerful evil angels were led in triumph by the risen Christ (Col 1.15). You simply ignore Scriptures that don't agree with you
The king of the angels and many of the angelic host are certainly bound now for they will be released in Rev 9.1-11. And this is in accordance with JESUS clear teaching that Satan has been bound (Matt 12.28-29) and that powerful evil angels were led in triumph by the risen Christ (Col 1.15). You simply ignore Scriptures that don't agree with you