Black Holes = Worm holes? Gods way for us to travel great distances?

[prove-all]

How can scientists never consider the possibility
that God created all of this?

“[T]heir eyes they have closed” (Matthew 13:15).
These scientists are studying God’s creation—and their eyes are closed!
They choose to exalt the creation above the magnificent Creator

Romans 1:19-20: “[T]hat which may be known of God is manifest
in them [people who disbelieve]; for God hath shewed it unto them.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world
are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made,
even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.”

Never have we been so “without excuse” as we are today

“When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers,
the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;
What is man, that thou art mindful of him? …” (Psalm 8:1, 3-4).

Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands;
thou hast put all things under his feet: All sheep andnoxen, yea,
and the beasts of the field; The fowl of the air, and the fish of the
sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas” (4, 6-8).

that which God gave mankind in the creation of man—the solid earth,
the Earth’s atmosphere, and the waters and sea (as in Genesis 1:26-28)

 

[EdisonTrent]

How can scientists never consider the possibility
that God created all of this?

“[T]heir eyes they have closed” (Matthew 13:15).
These scientists are studying God’s creation—and their eyes are closed!
They choose to exalt the creation above the magnificent Creator

Romans 1:19-20: “[T]hat which may be known of God is manifest
in them [people who disbelieve]; for God hath shewed it unto them.

[h=1]Romans 1:19-20English Standard Version (ESV)[/h]19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[a] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

is the scientist and their findings who study gods creation not believing God created all this is true
or the nonscientist knowing that the scientist are studying gods creation, believe their findings aren't true

 

[The_Wanderer]

I think the black holes and the pull that they provide represent the internal (SPRINGS) of the Universe and keep all things in motion.......just my view and for sure time travel is possible....God can do it!

Of course He can, since He resides outside of time. He created time and is not subject to it.

 

[The_Wanderer]

if the nearest black hole is more than 1500 light-years away from earth, it's not going to be very useful as a transportation device for earthling who can only travel at some small percentage of light speed. it'll take us thousands of years to get there, and if we could do that, we really don't have any need for a wormhole to begin with.

I understand that the Voyager I spacecraft that's out beyond our solar system now would take about 20,000 years to travel one light year. And that's traveling at speeds of around 35,000 m.p.h.

 

[posthuman]

PH use that big brain of yours and explain to us how our earth, which is a smaller planet is able to hold the moon in place? the physics dont add up. the moon should float away but it dont.

the moon actually is floating away from the earth, some calculations say about an inch a year, but they're approximate. well, more precisely, the earth and moon are both floating away from each other. the moon doesn't exactly orbit the earth; the earth and the moon both orbit a point that's the center of their combined mass. that point is pretty close to the center of the earth, because it's so big. the sun actually "wobbles" a bit too, because of the gravitational effect of all the planets, but of course the sun is HUGE comparatively, so the point that's the center of the sun/planet system is also very close to the center of the sun.

do you know what a bolo is? a weapon that some (i think African) tribes use to trip animals? a couple of weights with a rope that ties them together. you swing it and toss it, and when the rope hits some legs, the two weights swing around and around and tie them up. or, there's an old pirate weapon called a mast-breaker, that's a couple of canon balls with a chain between them. same principle. if you imagine one of these spinning, it spins around the center of the chain or rope, if the two weights are equal. that makes sens, right?
same thing with the earth/moon -- only one weight is way bigger, so the point the two rotate around is much closer to the big one. this is how every two-body orbit works.
the 'rope' that holds them together is gravity - and you can imagine that if a bolo was spinning fast enough, the rope could break and they would fly apart, with the weights flying off in a straight line in whatever direction they were spinning when the force of them moving overcame the force holding them together.
the reason the moon doesn't fly off is because its speed in orbit isn't enough to add up to enough force to overcome the pull of gravity towards the earth. same for the earth not flying off into space away from the sun, or for any satellite not flying off away from the earth. if you got it going faster, it would fly off -- like when we send a probe to mars for example, it is going much faster than one that's just circling the earth. so it depends on the velocity - the direction & speed whatever's orbiting with. if the speed is big enough, or the direction is pointed at a big enough angle away from the earth, whatever it is that's orbiting earth can escape orbit.

but the moon is actually getting further away. this is because the moon is actually slowing the earth's rotation down - because of the action of tides, the seas being pulled toward the moon. this produces a slight drag on the earth. this in effect adds some energy to the moon - because energy in the whole system is conserved - making the moon orbit a little bit faster & further out.

there's some good discussion in this link --https://www.physicsforums.com/thread...o-space.67691/
not all of it is correct though - but i think all of the incorrect comments get corrected, if you keep reading.

 

[skylove7]

Thank you for the interesting info posthuman

 

[posthuman]

Thank you for the interesting info posthuman

by request, hehe

it's all garbled and rambling to me, when i read it now tho lol - copied from a PM.
so much easier if i could just post Kepler's equations, and assume you could all see from the math how it shakes out!

like . . .



and . .



there, BAM!

"o OK post, now i get it!"

lol

 

[jaybird88]

by request, hehe

it's all garbled and rambling to me, when i read it now tho lol - copied from a PM.
so much easier if i could just post Kepler's equations, and assume you could all see from the math how it shakes out!

like . . .

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and . .

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there, BAM!

"o OK post, now i get it!"

lol

PH i tried to figure out the equation and i had to bring up the windows task manager on my brain when it crashed.

 

[jaybird88]

the moon actually is floating away from the earth, some calculations say about an inch a year, but they're approximate. well, more precisely, the earth and moon are both floating away from each other. the moon doesn't exactly orbit the earth; the earth and the moon both orbit a point that's the center of their combined mass. that point is pretty close to the center of the earth, because it's so big. the sun actually "wobbles" a bit too, because of the gravitational effect of all the planets, but of course the sun is HUGE comparatively, so the point that's the center of the sun/planet system is also very close to the center of the sun.

do you know what a bolo is? a weapon that some (i think African) tribes use to trip animals? a couple of weights with a rope that ties them together. you swing it and toss it, and when the rope hits some legs, the two weights swing around and around and tie them up. or, there's an old pirate weapon called a mast-breaker, that's a couple of canon balls with a chain between them. same principle. if you imagine one of these spinning, it spins around the center of the chain or rope, if the two weights are equal. that makes sens, right?
same thing with the earth/moon -- only one weight is way bigger, so the point the two rotate around is much closer to the big one. this is how every two-body orbit works.
the 'rope' that holds them together is gravity - and you can imagine that if a bolo was spinning fast enough, the rope could break and they would fly apart, with the weights flying off in a straight line in whatever direction they were spinning when the force of them moving overcame the force holding them together.
the reason the moon doesn't fly off is because its speed in orbit isn't enough to add up to enough force to overcome the pull of gravity towards the earth. same for the earth not flying off into space away from the sun, or for any satellite not flying off away from the earth. if you got it going faster, it would fly off -- like when we send a probe to mars for example, it is going much faster than one that's just circling the earth. so it depends on the velocity - the direction & speed whatever's orbiting with. if the speed is big enough, or the direction is pointed at a big enough angle away from the earth, whatever it is that's orbiting earth can escape orbit.

but the moon is actually getting further away. this is because the moon is actually slowing the earth's rotation down - because of the action of tides, the seas being pulled toward the moon. this produces a slight drag on the earth. this in effect adds some energy to the moon - because energy in the whole system is conserved - making the moon orbit a little bit faster & further out.

there's some good discussion in this link --https://www.physicsforums.com/thread...o-space.67691/
not all of it is correct though - but i think all of the incorrect comments get corrected, if you keep reading.

you told me earlier about the moon moving about an inch a year away. will it reach a point where it comes back? i read a few post in the phisics forum and saw how the rotations slow up on earth and speed up on moon. so is this how it works itself out. im trying to understand how the cosmic cycles balence. i think our Lord gave all things this harmonic balance.

 

[skylove7]

by request, hehe

it's all garbled and rambling to me, when i read it now tho lol - copied from a PM.
so much easier if i could just post Kepler's equations, and assume you could all see from the math how it shakes out!

like . . .

View attachment 132744

and . .

View attachment 132746

there, BAM!

"o OK post, now i get it!"

lol

ahhhh by all means! lol

 

[skylove7]

Hmmm I may not understand the mathmatics sigh sorry

But I did find out today. Johannes Kepler did not in fact poison Tycho Brahe. Though Brahe in fact was Keplers stepping stone.
Brahe wore a metal nose...his was lost in a duel.
He also had a dwarf for a servant he would throw scraps to from his dining table. Ugh very inhumane. A very weird man...but a genius in his time.
I think Galileo was my favorite then.
Especially the touching story of his daughters visits in prison.

Oh me!
Am I derailing.
Sorry. I just know the history. Not math.

Sigh

 

[skylove7]

Actually the above news was posted 2012
I just found out today sigh

Hopeless

I tell you I waited 9 long years for that funky cam to hit Pluto
I thought it got their last year

Then when I found out it hit recently
I was so burned out on confusing myself
I didnt even care to see it land

Sorry I'm rambling
Its late east time

Thank you brother PostHuman
I pray for your health every night

God bless you

 

[Brainfreeze]

What's cern?

This scientist says it could lead to some bad stuff... Black holes and so fourth. They're supposed to be turning this thing on again with more power next month.

[video=youtube;qnj9UZ6RwTA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnj9UZ6RwTA[/video]