Why are there so many different sects?

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Ahhh very good.. Sister EMBER is pretty wise..

....eh grasshopper??? err, I mean Zoe ;)

I gotta tell yuh...but shhhh...it's a secrud...when I pray in the Spirit alot...things become so focused for me that it's like I am more alive

He does quicken our minds...t'aint me ma'am...tis the Spirit of God!!!


but shhhhhhhh....:eek:
 

JaumeJ

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When theologies and denominations creep in to the Word as taught by the Holy Spirit, sects are rampant. They do not only occur in Christianity, they are also rampant in Islam, what has come to be known as Judaism, philosophies, and all levels of science. I am only permitted to share what I have come to believe after the infilling of the Holy Spirit which led me to the faith of Abraham, as taught by all of the Word, from Adam leading to Abraham, among the last of mankind who still communed with the Maker of all that is. Reading and sharing the Word, Jesus Christ, and straying from His teachings of the faith of Abraham is a deviation from the Way taught by our blessed Lord and Savior.
 
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When theologies and denominations creep in to the Word as taught by the Holy Spirit, sects are rampant. They do not only occur in Christianity, they are also rampant in Islam, what has come to be known as Judaism, philosophies, and all levels of science. I am only permitted to share what I have come to believe after the infilling of the Holy Spirit which led me to the faith of Abraham, as taught by all of the Word, from Adam leading to Abraham, among the last of mankind who still communed with the Maker of all that is. Reading and sharing the Word, Jesus Christ, and straying from His teachings of the faith of Abraham is a deviation from the Way taught by our blessed Lord and Savior.
Here is what I have learned. The reason that there are so many different religious sects is because the true doctrine of Christ is the least popular amongst the professing Christian sects today, but not all.

Case in point......... How many of us see the posts of many who cannot accept that man 'shall live by EVERY word that proceeds out of the mouth of God?'

When we see controversy concerning what words of God are acceptable, and what words are not, or we see posts that say those words of God are for another sect such as Israel, then we know that the doctrine being pumped is a false one.

Like I said, the least popular doctrine is the true one built on faith that believes fervently that ALL of what God has ever spoken (both old and new testament) are for all of us today. Jesus said so.

If there is a refusal to build upon the correct foundation on Christ being the Word of God (All of God's word), then that foundation will crumble.

If we get this ONE basic truth firmly impacted in each of our hearts and minds, then maybe edification will ensue.

"But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." (2 Corinthians 11:3)

This verse doesn't mean to be simple minded. :rolleyes:

 

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The only way a lamp can burn and give light is when there is oil in the lamp.

The only way the Holy Spirit can operate in us and through us is if we align with His word.

The tangible operation of the Holy Spirit in the body of Christ will bring unity and agreement, not without pitfalls. Keep an iron handy. Wrinkles you know.

The ecclesia (church) is out of alignment thereby quenching the HS, making for disunity or divisions.

Split after split after split resulting in thousands of denominations. And the splits continue on.

This is why the word of God warns us not to yield to the clerical/laity system. Deeds of the Nicolaitans. Someone hates that. Guess Who!

This is why the word of God warns against self exaltation over the brethren. See: 3John....Pastor Diotrephes.

This is why the word of God warns against covetousness and greed for filthy lucre, mammon.

This is why the word of God tells us 'freely you have received, freely give' and Paul not charging for his ministry.

These are all the reasons we have an untold number of denominations. Men and women desiring to be at the top of the heap!

Desiring noteriety, specialness, and priviledge and a pay check!

Take note now: no Holy Spirit, thereby no discernment. Many denominations now playing footsie with the homosexual community and the whore of revelation, the Roman Catholic Church, Islam,etc.,etc., the WCC! The new world order and the one world religion creating the atmosphere for the easy rise of the anti-Christ!

Sorry, I'm sort of long winded.
 
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When theologies and denominations creep in to the Word as taught by the Holy Spirit, sects are rampant. They do not only occur in Christianity, they are also rampant in Islam, what has come to be known as Judaism, philosophies, and all levels of science. I am only permitted to share what I have come to believe after the infilling of the Holy Spirit which led me to the faith of Abraham, as taught by all of the Word, from Adam leading to Abraham, among the last of mankind who still communed with the Maker of all that is. Reading and sharing the Word, Jesus Christ, and straying from His teachings of the faith of Abraham is a deviation from the Way taught by our blessed Lord and Savior.
Different denominations disagree with you. They believe they're right. Problem still exists.
 
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There are many "sects" of Christianity. We see many of these divided by certain "doctrinal differences". We argue quite a bit over who is correct and who is wrong among these doctrines. And to be honest some of these doctrines are "man made". We need to look at Scripture and actually see where we the same rather than where we are different. I personally don't care if you are Roman Catholic, Presbetarian, Baptist or Reformed. Look at who is first in someone's life. If Jesus is first and you have given your life to Christ and you follow Him then you are my brother or sister in Christ. I believe in predestination and you might not. Does this mean one of us isn't a Christian? I believe in baptism and you might not does this mean one of us isn't a Christian? I have accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior and you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior...we are brothers or sisters in Christ. We worry too much about the "little things" and miss the big picture. Jesus is Lord and Savior and whether you are Roman Catholic or Presbetarian or whatever if you have accepted Him and asked Him for forgiveness of your sins then you for sure are in my family in Christ.

And for sure I know quite a few on here will argue this with me but it comes down to Jesus first or not at all. Doctrinal differences are satan's way of dividing the true Church of Christ because we then forget that Jesus is the true Church not these "little things".
 
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What makes so many Christian sects on earth? And what is the difference among them?
Because someone couldn't be persuaded. (That's both a good thing and a bad thing. Sometimes it's both sides bad.)
 
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You got the point! When I posted this tread, Im more concerned that how could people know that "Jesus is the true and only church" when they have different interpretation on "doctrine".

There are many "sects" of Christianity. We see many of these divided by certain "doctrinal differences". We argue quite a bit over who is correct and who is wrong among these doctrines. And to be honest some of these doctrines are "man made". We need to look at Scripture and actually see where we the same rather than where we are different. I personally don't care if you are Roman Catholic, Presbetarian, Baptist or Reformed. Look at who is first in someone's life. If Jesus is first and you have given your life to Christ and you follow Him then you are my brother or sister in Christ. I believe in predestination and you might not. Does this mean one of us isn't a Christian? I believe in baptism and you might not does this mean one of us isn't a Christian? I have accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior and you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior...we are brothers or sisters in Christ. We worry too much about the "little things" and miss the big picture. Jesus is Lord and Savior and whether you are Roman Catholic or Presbetarian or whatever if you have accepted Him and asked Him for forgiveness of your sins then you for sure are in my family in Christ.

And for sure I know quite a few on here will argue this with me but it comes down to Jesus first or not at all. Doctrinal differences are satan's way of dividing the true Church of Christ because we then forget that Jesus is the true Church not these "little things".
 
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What makes so many Christian sects on earth? And what is the difference among them?
Because every sect is not a group of people who are born again.

You might find some born again people in some sects but they will not be the majority. It is only by being born again that we receive the Holy Spirit Who leads us into all truth.

If you are born again you want the truth of God and you know it when you receive it, by the Holy Spirit. This means you have to get out of every place that teaches untruth, not according to the Spirit.

So the bottom line is, as Jesus said, ye must be born again :)
 

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Because every sect is not a group of people who are born again.

You might find some born again people in some sects but they will not be the majority. It is only by being born again that we receive the Holy Spirit Who leads us into all truth.

If you are born again you want the truth of God and you know it when you receive it, by the Holy Spirit. This means you have to get out of every place that teaches untruth, not according to the Spirit.

So the bottom line is, as Jesus said, ye must be born again :)
Pentecostals and charismatics would be considered by definition sects.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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There are two different churches within every "sect" of Christianity. There is the visable church and the invisible church. The visable church are all those we see sitting listening to the pastor. The invisible church are those who are true Christians. Not everyone in the visable church is part of the invisible church. But everyone in the invisible church is part of the visable church. Every "sect" of the Christian church has within its walls true followers of Christ.

I have a good friend who attends a Catholic church. He grew up in the church. He grew up with all the rituals and praying the "rosary". When he became a true follower of Christ he tried switching churches. He was so used to all the rituals he was uncomfortable in any other church. He still attends the Catholic Church but no longer prays the "rosary" and no longer does certain "rituals" as he now sees them as incorrect doctrine. He has heard some false teaching from the Priest but God has taught him something in every sermon because he had opened his mind to the teaching of the Holy Spirit not the teaching of the man speaking the words.

Proof posative that we cannot place labels on someone because of a certain "sect" within the true church of Christ.
 
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Pentecostals and charismatics would be considered by definition sects.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
I am pentecostal and charismatic according to the power of God, not according to any sect.
 

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I am pentecostal and charismatic according to the power of God, not according to any sect.
Every sect makes the same claim.

God gave us His word that we might try the sects against His perfect standard to see if they are legitimate.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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There are two different churches within every "sect" of Christianity. There is the visable church and the invisible church. The visable church are all those we see sitting listening to the pastor. The invisible church are those who are true Christians. Not everyone in the visable church is part of the invisible church. But everyone in the invisible church is part of the visable church. Every "sect" of the Christian church has within its walls true followers of Christ.

I have a good friend who attends a Catholic church. He grew up in the church. He grew up with all the rituals and praying the "rosary". When he became a true follower of Christ he tried switching churches. He was so used to all the rituals he was uncomfortable in any other church. He still attends the Catholic Church but no longer prays the "rosary" and no longer does certain "rituals" as he now sees them as incorrect doctrine. He has heard some false teaching from the Priest but God has taught him something in every sermon because he had opened his mind to the teaching of the Holy Spirit not the teaching of the man speaking the words.

Proof posative that we cannot place labels on someone because of a certain "sect" within the true church of Christ.
Amen. When I was first saved and everything was new, I started a little Christian discussion group in the hospital chapel at work. We met every lunchtime until I married and left there. A few years later I thought I would pay them a visit. The discussions were still going but apparently run by a nun. I was feeling a little affronted that it was taken over by catholics...lol...and so we fell into discussion.

I knew I had had the genuine born again experience but I foolishly imagined that no one in the catholic church could have experienced the same. Yet as we talked she assured me that God had sent charismatic believers to deliver a message to the catholic church to expose its hardened heart against the power of the Holy Spirit. She told me that there are many catholics who now speak in tongues etc.

This taught me a lesson that was not forgotten. Just because someone attends a church building that I would not attend, doesn't mean that their experience is not genuine. I can see that God truly calls all men everywhere to repent, and if we are caught up in the various sects at that time, I am pretty sure that by and by we will lose our taste for them, and God will deliver us into a better experience of His truth.

What followed was a heart search to find more "real ones" as in real Christians that I could fellowship with. I met them in all sorts of places, and so I began to see that even fellowship is spiritual, the meeting of two or more born again people sharing together....but that what is done in those "sects" and CALLED spiritual, is often something else. :)
 
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Every sect makes the same claim.

God gave us His word that we might try the sects against His perfect standard to see if they are legitimate.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Exactly, which is why anyone claiming that the gifts and the power of God are not for today, as the Word plainly says, must be a sect at the very least.
 
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What makes so many Christian sects on earth? And what is the difference among them?
I am not a church historian. In the beginning there was the Catholic Church. I think there developed an east-west rift, which was the birth of the Orthodox Church. More recently (around 500 years ago?) there was a certain amount of corruption in the Catholic Church, such that Protestant churches were born. Nowadays there are conservative-liberal tensions in churches.
 
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I am not a church historian. In the beginning there was the Catholic Church. I think there developed an east-west rift, which was the birth of the Orthodox Church. More recently (around 500 years ago?) there was a certain amount of corruption in the Catholic Church, such that Protestant churches were born. Nowadays there are conservative-liberal tensions in churches.
Well good thing you are not a church historian, because the Catholic church was formed in the 4th century of the early church.

There was no such thing as even the term catholic tell the 2nd century (101-200 AD), and then it was only used to define the universal stance that anybody from any nation can become a believer in Christ. It was never used in the first 4 centuries a denominational term, or as that only a person in that Catholic church is saved as has been so falsely taught for years.
 
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What makes so many Christian sects on earth? And what is the difference among them?
One reason is that God is using the divisive nature of humanity (imperfect Christians) . As soon as you have some sort of disagreement you have a split. This usually causes a new movement which gives greater coverage of the Gospel message. Instead of one Church you have two. This is not the will of God necessarily but I am saying that he uses our mistakes, errors, lack of love, understanding, ignorance, and disagreements to His advantage. A kind of "Turning evil into good" type of situation. When persecution comes, however, these problems will subside or hopefully totally disappear.
 
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That is something I have wondered about for years. I think it may have something to do with the reformation. Before that happened there was really only two denominations in Europe you could be part of, the Roman Catholic Church or the Eastern Orthodox. Once the reformation happened things began to unravel and over a period of time denominations sprouted like weeds. For the first time in centuries if you disagreed with one you could either join another or start your own. Its still going on to this day. The ecumenical movement has tried to reunite the major denominations but cant manage it because the doctrinal differences are to great.
They have a better chance of making it by themselves than joining that ungodly movement, which include the catholics, prosperity preachers, purpose-driven maniacs..... need I say more?