Marraige Separation

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DebraH

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I have a issue of question dealing with a marriage that ended in separation for the last five years because of him being a alcoholic and not disclosing that to me in the beginning. We have been married for almost 25. I just have not brought myself to divorce him because I don't want to go against Gods feelings about divorse.But have moved on and have a boyfriend I love. I have no love for my husband other than simpathy and do help him because he is ill. I have looked at the dissolution provision lately because it has a fraud clause which I'm interpretating as him not telling me his problem and being a lie in the beginning not disclosing himself as a alcoholic. I went thru almost 20 years of physical abuse from him. Does God really want me not to be happy and move not ever on? I just am so afraid God will punish me if I do this Dissolution to be free to marry again
 
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DebraH

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I have read And reread scripture pertaining to divorce but wonder sometimes if we are bound to live by the law or depend on Gods grace and forgiveness in certain. Situations.
 
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I read your message about an hour after you wrote it. I started then praying about how to respond to you... and if it should be me responding to you. Went to church, ran a few errands, had lunch, you know... the typical things. I really prayed that God would send someone else to respond to you because I didn't want to do it. Alas, you do need a response and as you are still on my heart, I'm in. Here goes.

Debra, you have stepped outside of your vows. You promised to stand by your husband in sickness and in health. I believe that alcoholism is an illness, and an addiction.

I agree that it was probably healthy for you to separate from him for a time, but honestly, I think it's terrifically ill advised for you to have a boyfriend. If you are at all intimate with this boyfriend, you are in adultery - and to be honest, a married but even a separated married person dating someone who is not their spouse is committing adultery - in the strictest sense.

I don't know what reference you are talking about with regards to dissolution, but someone who hid alcoholism from you may have been a valid reason in the beginning for a dissolution based on fraud, but I doubt that would be the case 25 years later. You say above that your husband has been abusive, and that is VERY disconcerting. Have the two of you sought counseling together?

You mention in another thread that the current boyfriend is an atheist and you are returning to your Christian beliefs. I would caution as the Apostle Paul does about not being un-equally yolked. Being romantically involved with a non-believer is rather unwise. IF God brought you into his life as a witness, it would NOT have been as your boyfriend, because God doesn't bring us into sin to spread the Gospel.

Regarding grace. Yes, there is an abundance and I am so thankful that God is so gracious. we have to be very careful about not walking in sin if we know the truth though. I don't think that God banishes us forever for sinning after we've experienced salvation, that would be like banishing a baby or toddler for falling down as they learn to walk and run. He loves us better than any parent. Keep in mind though that there are natural consequences to sin. And even still, God is a God of restoration and he wants to restore us to himself.

So, what do you do? My advice is hard, and I am so sorry that it is, but... I think you need to end the relationship with the boyfriend (though I see that you posted that you are currently separated from him while considering God's plan for you. I am sure it's difficult and confusing, but I applaud you for that).

If your husband had not been violent, I would suggest attempting to reconcile with him. I don't know if there is any counseling the two of you could do together. God does honor the marriage vow and he does intervene and cause change in marriages. Is your husband a believer, a practicing Christian who has fallen into habitual sin? I don't know.

It's on that point I would focus my prayer energies, on God restoring your marriage better than it was before and healing your husband (which won't be an easy road). Your conviction in honoring your vows before God and to him may bring him back into covenant relationship with God too.

It's very complicated, and this is my advice with this very little bit of information: Pray and seek God. He does give answers. Don't make moves based on your feelings (I'm so in love with BF) but based on what you know God would want you to do (and again, stepping outside of your marriage is NOT what God would want you to do).

Praying for you Debra. My in-box is open if you would like to talk further.
 
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Ugly

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Yes, far as having a boyfriend, you are still married. Regardless of what your intentions are with this married, it's still a marriage. Now he, potentially, has grounds for divorce because of your cheating on him. And that will be much easier to prove.

Anytime there is abuse i always recommend ending the marriage. Abusers rarely change.
 
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BarlyGurl

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I have a issue of question dealing with a marriage that ended in separation for the last five years because of him being a alcoholic and not disclosing that to me in the beginning. We have been married for almost 25. I just have not brought myself to divorce him because I don't want to go against Gods feelings about divorse.But have moved on and have a boyfriend I love. I have no love for my husband other than simpathy and do help him because he is ill. I have looked at the dissolution provision lately because it has a fraud clause which I'm interpretating as him not telling me his problem and being a lie in the beginning not disclosing himself as a alcoholic. I went thru almost 20 years of physical abuse from him. Does God really want me not to be happy and move not ever on? I just am so afraid God will punish me if I do this Dissolution to be free to marry again
To be very FRANK, you have jumped thru and assortment of man's tradition HOOPS and are NOW well outside of the WILL of God. Basically, if you want to back up to where you were OKAY... is where you separated yourself, BUT the purpose of separation is for the PURPOSE of being RECONCILLED not for the purpose of DIVORCE to find a NEW MATE.... WHOOPS!!!!
Clearly, you either DID NOT intend to reconcile when you left OR YOU are the adulterer who is now in an adulterous relationship... WHOOPS!!!!
Woman... If you REALLY desire to live by GOD'S WORD... I suggest you repent quickly... because you have goofed! I don't know if BY ACCIDENT or ON PURPOSE... that is between you and God to work in your heart... I am just telling you... where you might be safe backing up to... to be IN his WILL as revealed by HIS WORD.

That fear... that is FEAR OF GOD... that is a precious treasure to have... do not let anyone tell you it isn't. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of WISDOM... you cannot get wisdom apart from the fear of God.
 
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DebraH

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Thank you for your comments. I have no desire to pray to be with a man who caused me so much bodily harm for so many years. He is old now and I am taking care of him for now. So he is not danger anymore more to me. I learned to outrun him years ago. Our relationship is a friendship now but nothing more. My boyfriend ofnthe last five years understands why I'm living at the same house now and he and my husband are friends. It's just not right for me to have been with someone else I know for the last five years but I left out of fear for my life and then later met this other man. I never knew what he might do at the time when I left while I slept or if he caught me off guard. I put up with the abuse too long to ever want him as a husband. His health is bad and he doesn't resemble the sober man I married at all now. I am 13 years younger and it was just too much. I guess I was hoping someone would touch on God knowing my heart and what I had to endure and it would then be in Gods hands because he knows I tryed to keep my marraige together for almost 20 years of living hell. But Thank you all. I will draw closer in prayer to God and wait for him to tell me what I should or should not do about my situation. The boyfriend is starting to believe. He has had a only child recently die in a car accident and I believe God is working on his Atheist heart. I will remain in my house I let my husband live in for the last five years we have been separated. Because his illness now he would not able to survive. I've always paid the morgage for him these past five years.
 
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Consumed

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I don't understand why you even have a boyfriend if you don't want to be divorced.

Now it's my turn to be frank. Getting a divorce is NOT a sin. You will not go to hell for it. God is not going to punish you for it. There will be consequences to pay, but that is all dependent on the situation and how justifiable it is for you to get divorced. Tell me where in the bible God says divorce is unacceptable? He doesn't. Scripture does say that God hates divorce, and unless you have actually been through a divorce you cannot possibly understand why. Also, in regards to God and divorce, the Israelite's in the old testament were actually commanded, by God, to get divorced because their marriages were completely dissolved. Marriage vows were broken, and it wasn't taken seriously. Why would God command someone to sin? Again, it's not a sin, and in certain situations it is justified. Again, you cannot possibly know why God hates divorce until you actually go through one. Numerous Christians constantly misinterpret it as God saying it's sinful. It's not.

My ex and I were in an extremely toxic relationship that involved physical, mental, and emotional abuse. Do I think God would have wanted it to continue? No. I ended it. Despite the fact that we were living in a house of horrors together it was the most emotionally difficult experience I ever went through. It was like losing a piece of myself. Do I think it was because I sinned? No. Do I think it was because God was punishing me? No. I developed a life with someone else, and regardless of how horrible it was, it was still a part of me. I was still extremely hurt, and extremely brokenhearted and I never wish for anyone to ever have to go through it, though I know it will unfortunately be a fact of life. THAT is why God hates divorce.
 
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I read nowhere in GOD's word that separation and divorce from a very abusive, volital situation is the IMPARDONABLE SIN....don't worry over your husband's sins...and how they affected you...counter-act by making a fresh, new positive move towards a stable marriage that awaits you..YOU are the victim, and your spouse broke the marriage contract by his own actions and choice. Speak with your heavenly Father, ask for HIS movement and forgiveness for you and your past marriage and past spouse and move on in total FAITH..period...sister!
 
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BarlyGurl

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Oh good GRIEF... your BOYFRIEND is an ATHIEST???? the boyfriend you shouldn't even HAVE!!! You obviously DO NOT know the word of God or even the basic command that believer NOT join themselves to unbelievers... much less the marriage/divorce teachings. Keep going your own way... you won't like the end result... I did my part and WARNED YA.
 
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DebraH

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Obviously you don't know God either by your tone of voice.
 
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BarlyGurl

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LOL... ya mean the tone of voice YOU HEAR in your head???? I am typing... haven't opened my mouth at ALL... I do however use CAPITALS to give certain words emphasis... it is easier than bold/underline/italic editing.
 
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mokie22yrold

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I've read and had people write me God does not want us to divorce cause it causes so much pain and heartbreak. I'm going through divorce now. it's not what I want. its what my husband wants. we had planned to relocate. we made plans..together. I was to go ahead and get us a place. he stayed behind to finish a job then was going to join me. 6-8 weeks into our plan he had an affair. ...but I didn't find out till later. out of the blue he text me that he was no good for me. that were over. I BEGGED him to talk to me. that I would come back, we could work it out, etc. he kept telling me. no, to stay where I was. that we were over. I was an still am very heartbroken. I've never cried so much in my life. I don't understand how he can do this to me. he's totally different then when we were married. it was never my intentions to get married and end in divorce. He won't talk to me and when he did he was very hurtful in what he said to me. he said he would file but I filed myself cause I have to look out for me. if someone is in a hurtful marriage that won't get better they have to look out for themselves. even if it means getting a divorce. I still care about my soon to be ex even if he hates me. Anyway, sometimes we have to do things we don't want to, even get divorce. God knows our heart's. He knows I want so much to still be with my husband but what else can I do. I'm not judging but if it were me being hit and abused like you write about I'd want a divorce.
 
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DebraH

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Thank you for your comment.
 

Consumed

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And sorry you're getting yelled at by someone who doesn't know you debraH
 
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DebraH

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Ah Consumed Thank you yours words were the words that my ears did hear Dear Heart.
 
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DebraH

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Thanks you Consumed your words my ears did hear.
 
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atwhatcost

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I have read And reread scripture pertaining to divorce but wonder sometimes if we are bound to live by the law or depend on Gods grace and forgiveness in certain. Situations.
Okay, you've read scripture on divorce. What did God tell you thorough it?
 
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And sorry you're getting yelled at by someone who doesn't know you debraH
I'm sorry she hear a lot of what was said, but also I'm sorry she listened to it's okay to get a divorce from a guy who thinks "toxic relationship" is a biblical reason for a divorce.
 
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DebraH

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Toxic is not the word for it. I almost died by his hand once.
 
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atwhatcost

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Toxic is not the word for it. I almost died by his hand once.
You were physically abused for 25 years. I really did get that. That's part of the reason I asked you what you learned about divorce in the Bible.