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You stated that you are opposed to the DP because of mercy, love, forgiveness.
But when we apply that mercy, love, and forgiveness to life in prison. You sing a different tune.
Ridiculous. Opposed to the death penalty because we are to forgive.
"Love and mercy requires protection for others as well, it can not be just one sided." Where's the forgiveness?
"Mercy can't be just one sided."
"Love can't be just one sided."
But you didn't include forgiveness, why?
Love, mercy, forgiveness, one sided?
Genesis 9:6 The Lord is for the death penalty in that verse. Yes He is. What is the basis of the DP according to the Lord?
Ken, who are we to forgive? When are we to forgive? Does our forgiving someone of murder make null and void the command in Genesis 9:6?
You assume keeping a murder alive on death row is an act of love toward the family of the murdered victim. Where did you come with that assumption?
Yours Page 9/ 168:
I did to include forgiveness as here is my quote;
Love, mercy, and forgiveness is to be shown to all people not just victims, and not just offenders, but both equally !!!
If you are talking about why I did not mention it for victims, why would a victim need to be forgiven as they are the one the sin was done to, not the one who committed the sin.
Once again Genesis 9:6 is part of the old covenants standards, not the new covenant as the Lord said we are to show love, mercy, and forgiveness instead and then He also adds we are to pray, do good to them.
We walk by the perfect law of liberty (Christ teaching and commands from the gospels), not the oldness of the letter of the law from the old covenant.
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Now here are the questions left unanswered. Remember, they are related to your anti-DP. Okay. According to you, DP is wrong because WE are to have mercy, love, forgiveness.
Below are the questions you did not answer. Where did you answer them? (I've numbered the pasted questions below for clarity.)
1. Genesis 9:6 The Lord is for the death penalty in that verse. Yes He is. What is the basis of the DP according to the Lord?
2. Ken, who are we to forgive?
3. When are we to forgive?
4. Does our forgiving someone of murder make null and void the command in Genesis 9:6?
5. You assume keeping a murder alive on death row is an act of love toward the family of the murdered victim. Where did you come with that assumption?
1) Putting one to death does not fit under love, mercy, and forgiveness to the one who committed the sin
(I did answer this one already multiple times)
Lord said no to an eye for eye, tooth for a tooth and if you look at
Exodus 21:23-36 you will see that a life for a life is in that ordinance that Jesus is referring to in
Matthew 5:38-42.
2) We are to show forgiveness to all who have sinned, as we were forgiven of ours.
(I answered this way before also)
3) We are to forgive when they ask for it, but that asking does not always happen right away and it is not our place to force an apology out of a person by shorting their lifespan. Going that route most of the time will most likely lead to a false confession just to get out of punishment. Real repentance must be given time to come from the heart !!!
4) Did the Lord have those in the bible such as Moses, David, and Paul put to death when they murdered ??? No, therefore repenting and being under grace by faith in the Lord releases one from the curse of the law !!!
5) I highlighted your number 5 because that is your assumption, not mine, because I never said keeping a murderer alive shows love to the victims family.
What I said is that keeping them alive shows love, mercy, and forgiveness to the one who committed the murder.
Please do not twist my words to say something I didn't, and again love must be shown to both the victim/victims family and the one who committed the murder/sin. You can not do away with one over the other or you are disobeying the Lord to show love and mercy to all, and to forgive those who sin as you have been forgiven.
Once again have you committed adultery (this includes just looking lustfully at another woman), have you murdered (this includes showing hatred to another), have you worked on the Sabbath, and have you broken any other commandments or laws that required the death penalty in the OT ???
Should we put you or the rest of us in the electric chair or lethal injection then and be killed ???
If not why ???
For if the curse of the law still applies to this one sin why does it not apply to the others ???