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And I haven't conversed with her since as I made one statement about attacking another poster, but have not had any discussion back and forth with her since she said she was putting me on ignore.
I am done with her unless things can change in the discussions, but if another person asks me something I am not going to not answer them !!!
I am done with her unless things can change in the discussions, but if another person asks me something I am not going to not answer them !!!
Hi Ember, it started with me around the same time also. It is a little campaign of evil. I have been stalked on two threads by the person who had no previous interest in it, except to come and attack me. All the things that person habitually does is turned around again and I am accused of the same things. That person and the accomplices will not be happy until we are banned, or leave because it is intolerable.
It is definitely a very nasty spirit at work: I have seen the same thing. I agree that allowing the same thing to work through us is bad news, but that is what it does by pushing pushing pushing until you retaliate. Thankfully however, if we don't play ball, there is no ball to play.
I keep trying to get away from the vileness but as I said, it keeps pursuing me.
It is good to see you again after all this time.
Blessings, Con
It is definitely a very nasty spirit at work: I have seen the same thing. I agree that allowing the same thing to work through us is bad news, but that is what it does by pushing pushing pushing until you retaliate. Thankfully however, if we don't play ball, there is no ball to play.
I keep trying to get away from the vileness but as I said, it keeps pursuing me.
It is good to see you again after all this time.
Blessings, Con
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I find no joy in seeing another user banned. I will be happy when you attempt to make amends with the individual instead of publicly gossiping about the individual.
By the way, I'm not an "it" -- I'm a person.
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You do not show you are trying to "get away", when you underhandedly refer to this scuffle in other threads -- or when you blatantly do so, as you have here!
By the way, I'm not an "it" -- I'm a person.
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You do not show you are trying to "get away", when you underhandedly refer to this scuffle in other threads -- or when you blatantly do so, as you have here!
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2nd Century quotes
Justin Martyr - (A.D. 100-165).
But I believe that even those, who have been persuaded . . . to observe the legal dispensation along with their confession of God in Christ, shall probably be saved. And I hold, further, that such as have confessed and known this man to be Christ, yet who have gone back from some cause to the legal dispensation, and have denied that this man is Christ, and have not repented before death, shall by no means be saved. Further, I hold that those of the seed of Abraham who live according to the law, and do not believe in this Christ before death, shall likewise not be saved . . . – Justin Martyr, Dialogue Of Justin 47
Shepherd of Hermas - (A.D. 155-180)
They only who fear the Lord and keep His commandments have life with God; but as to those who keep not His commandments, there is no life in them. Shepherd of Hermas, 2.7 (A.D. 155).
And he said, “If you do not guard yourself against [anger], you and your house lose all hope of salvation . . . Hermas. Pastor of Hermas. Book 1.4.1.
“Hear now,” said he, “how wicked is the action of anger, and in what way it overthrows the servants of God by its action, and turns them from righteousness. But [anger] does not turn away those who are full of faith, nor does it act on them, for the power of the Lord is with them. Hermas. Shepherd of Hermas. Book 1-2, Commandment Fourth, Chap. 1.
Irenaeus –(A.D. 120-200)
Those who do not obey Him . . . have ceased to be His sons. – Irenaeus, Irenaeus Against Heresies, Book 4.41.3.
But with respect to obedience and doctrine we are not all the sons of God: those only are so who believe in Him and do His will. And those who do not believe, and do not obey His will, are sons and angels of the devil, because they do the works of the devil. Irenaeus, Irenaeus Against Heresies, Book 41, 2.
Tertullian – Tertullian (A.D. 150-220) makes the following statement which echoes the same message of 1 John 2:19.
But what if a bishop, if a deacon, if a widow, if a virgin, if a doctor, if even a martyr, have fallen from the rule (of faith), will heresies on that account appear to possess the truth? Do we prove the faith by the persons, or the persons by the faith? No one is wise, no one is faithful, no one excels in dignity, but the Christian; and no one is a Christian but he who perseveres even to the end. Tertullian, The Prescription Against Heretics, Chap 3.
Cyprian – 3rd Century (201-300 AD)
Whoever is separated from the Church and is joined to an adulteress, is separated from the promises of the Church; nor can he who forsakes the Church of Christ attain to the rewards of Christ. He is a stranger; he is profane; he is an enemy. He can no longer have God for his Father, who has not the Church for his mother. Cyprian, Treatises of Cyprian. Treaties 1.6.
Justin Martyr - (A.D. 100-165).
But I believe that even those, who have been persuaded . . . to observe the legal dispensation along with their confession of God in Christ, shall probably be saved. And I hold, further, that such as have confessed and known this man to be Christ, yet who have gone back from some cause to the legal dispensation, and have denied that this man is Christ, and have not repented before death, shall by no means be saved. Further, I hold that those of the seed of Abraham who live according to the law, and do not believe in this Christ before death, shall likewise not be saved . . . – Justin Martyr, Dialogue Of Justin 47
Shepherd of Hermas - (A.D. 155-180)
They only who fear the Lord and keep His commandments have life with God; but as to those who keep not His commandments, there is no life in them. Shepherd of Hermas, 2.7 (A.D. 155).
And he said, “If you do not guard yourself against [anger], you and your house lose all hope of salvation . . . Hermas. Pastor of Hermas. Book 1.4.1.
“Hear now,” said he, “how wicked is the action of anger, and in what way it overthrows the servants of God by its action, and turns them from righteousness. But [anger] does not turn away those who are full of faith, nor does it act on them, for the power of the Lord is with them. Hermas. Shepherd of Hermas. Book 1-2, Commandment Fourth, Chap. 1.
Irenaeus –(A.D. 120-200)
Those who do not obey Him . . . have ceased to be His sons. – Irenaeus, Irenaeus Against Heresies, Book 4.41.3.
But with respect to obedience and doctrine we are not all the sons of God: those only are so who believe in Him and do His will. And those who do not believe, and do not obey His will, are sons and angels of the devil, because they do the works of the devil. Irenaeus, Irenaeus Against Heresies, Book 41, 2.
Tertullian – Tertullian (A.D. 150-220) makes the following statement which echoes the same message of 1 John 2:19.
But what if a bishop, if a deacon, if a widow, if a virgin, if a doctor, if even a martyr, have fallen from the rule (of faith), will heresies on that account appear to possess the truth? Do we prove the faith by the persons, or the persons by the faith? No one is wise, no one is faithful, no one excels in dignity, but the Christian; and no one is a Christian but he who perseveres even to the end. Tertullian, The Prescription Against Heretics, Chap 3.
Cyprian – 3rd Century (201-300 AD)
Whoever is separated from the Church and is joined to an adulteress, is separated from the promises of the Church; nor can he who forsakes the Church of Christ attain to the rewards of Christ. He is a stranger; he is profane; he is an enemy. He can no longer have God for his Father, who has not the Church for his mother. Cyprian, Treatises of Cyprian. Treaties 1.6.
Well all, I have really had enough of all this. It seems I am not allowed to stand up for myself and must put up with false accusations negativity and mud slinging of a really nasty kind.
I have tried to get away from the accuser, but he pursues me and spreads more nastiness. He gossips with others and sucks up to any people he thinks I might be befriending, in order to spoil things for me.
I have complained formally at least twice, but nothing is done.
When I go and find another thread to contribute on, no doubt he will follow me there and keep on stirring things up for me.
If you think that is a nice thing to do to someone then you are welcome to him. Have fun.
I do not believe I have behaved in a bad way but have told the truth from the beginning. Some people need to hear the truth spoken clearly, even bluntly...and even then they will not accept it.
Bye for now.
I have tried to get away from the accuser, but he pursues me and spreads more nastiness. He gossips with others and sucks up to any people he thinks I might be befriending, in order to spoil things for me.
I have complained formally at least twice, but nothing is done.
When I go and find another thread to contribute on, no doubt he will follow me there and keep on stirring things up for me.
If you think that is a nice thing to do to someone then you are welcome to him. Have fun.
I do not believe I have behaved in a bad way but have told the truth from the beginning. Some people need to hear the truth spoken clearly, even bluntly...and even then they will not accept it.
Bye for now.
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You're allowed to stand up for yourself.
I never intended to make any false accusations (if I have, please show me and I'll apologize).
I'm not presently slinging mud -- I'm earnestly trying to resolve whatever this is!
I'm not going to continue to argue with you either; You're dead wrong -- you are the one making false accusations (you did it here again), I can show you why I think you're wrong, but you have to be willing to resolve this as well.
Perhaps you're not even intending to make an accusation here -- perhaps you're just sharing "how you feel". This might very well be the case, but I don't know you -- I can't interpret your emotion by what you have said here. At face-value, it looks an awful lot like you're accusing me of stalking you, gossiping to others, sucking-up to others, actively trying to spoil things for you, stirring things up... Guess what? I'm not.
I never intended to make any false accusations (if I have, please show me and I'll apologize).
I'm not presently slinging mud -- I'm earnestly trying to resolve whatever this is!
I'm not going to continue to argue with you either; You're dead wrong -- you are the one making false accusations (you did it here again), I can show you why I think you're wrong, but you have to be willing to resolve this as well.
Perhaps you're not even intending to make an accusation here -- perhaps you're just sharing "how you feel". This might very well be the case, but I don't know you -- I can't interpret your emotion by what you have said here. At face-value, it looks an awful lot like you're accusing me of stalking you, gossiping to others, sucking-up to others, actively trying to spoil things for you, stirring things up... Guess what? I'm not.
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well, in the end, we can only answer for ourself...and the other interesting thing is that, as some entanglements do carry over from other threads, it is not always an understandable conflict if someone comes along and does not see what has happened to reach a certain point in any one thread
Christians forums are interesting to say the least
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I have a real problem with mud-slinging. Those who talk about others here as if they don't exist or somehow cannot read it. Such comments should be between the individuals concerned by private message. I also have a problem with those dissing Angela, a wonderful spirit-filled woman of God, a woman who knows the word, has made it her goal to learn truth and a woman faced with more challenges than most will face in several lifetimes!
I'm sorry it had to be said - might as well be me saying it!
I'm sorry it had to be said - might as well be me saying it!
