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The more I watch some of these conspiracy things the more it seems the folks who make all this stuff up are the ones with a agenda...It seems to me much of this stuff is just propaganda made up to weaken the trust folks would have in our system. I often notice that very few liberals even seem to be involved in these conspiracy plans. But every republican seems to be right in the thick of every evil plot... Why is this...if we lose all confidence in our western system, what other system or group would benefit? Who benefits when we think all our western leaders can no longer be trusted? Who benefits when the folks no longer believe we should stand up for our traditional ideas? I would like to know if a powerful propaganda group like the KGB could be behind much of these conspiracy ideas? Just my thoughts
 
Mitspa said:
The more I watch some of these conspiracy things the more it seems the folks who make all this stuff up are the ones with a agenda...It seems to me much of this stuff is just propaganda made up to weaken the trust folks would have in our system. I often notice that very few liberals even seem to be involved in these conspiracy plans. But every republican seems to be right in the thick of every evil plot... Why is this...if we lose all confidence in our western system, what other system or group would benefit? Who benefits when we think all our western leaders can no longer be trusted? Who benefits when the folks no longer believe we should stand up for our traditional ideas? I would like to know if a powerful propaganda group like the KGB could be behind much of these conspiracy ideas? Just my thoughts
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I think it is the work of people with over active imaginations or those who have found a way of making a quick fortune
selling books to gullible people. If there was a sinister plot behind it all the perpetrators appear to use some very old news stories at times.
 
Mitspa said:
The more I watch some of these conspiracy things the more it seems the folks who make all this stuff up are the ones with a agenda...It seems to me much of this stuff is just propaganda made up to weaken the trust folks would have in our system. I often notice that very few liberals even seem to be involved in these conspiracy plans. But every republican seems to be right in the thick of every evil plot... Why is this...if we lose all confidence in our western system, what other system or group would benefit? Who benefits when we think all our western leaders can no longer be trusted? Who benefits when the folks no longer believe we should stand up for our traditional ideas? I would like to know if a powerful propaganda group like the KGB could be behind much of these conspiracy ideas? Just my thoughts
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Where exactly, in the bible, does it say to put your trust in political leaders?

Where is that in scripture?

Where does it say, in the bible, to put your trust in MAN?

The last I checked, it said all men were sinners.
That would include me, you, western politicians, eastern politicians, and everyone else.

I'm not into "conspiracy theories"... but ALL MEN are corrupt.
We are a fallen race.
If you think that some particular group of leaders is sinless... you need to rethink your position.
 
maxwel said:
Where exactly, in the bible, does it say to put your trust in political leaders?

Where is that in scripture?

Where does it say, in the bible, to put your trust in MAN?

The last I checked, it said all men were sinners.
That would include me, you, western politicians, eastern politicians, and everyone else.

I'm not into "conspiracy theories"... but ALL MEN are corrupt.
We are a fallen race.
If you think that some particular group of leaders is sinless... you need to rethink your position.
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Take a blue pill and consider my logic :)
 
We need to put our trust and faith in God to allow us to make the right decision on who to vote for. However, I believe once they are sworn in we need to be praying for them to make the right decisions and for our country.
 
cmarieh said:
We need to put our trust and faith in God to allow us to make the right decision on who to vote for. However, I believe once they are sworn in we need to be praying for them to make the right decisions and for our country.
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I agree 100%.

However, praying for them, and hoping they do everything right, is NOT THE SAME as assuming they must be doing everything right just because they won an election.

That would just be silly.
 
I can't believe people in the Conspiracy Forum are teasing me.


That could only mean....

there's a conspiracy.
 
Mitspa said:
The more I watch some of these conspiracy things the more it seems the folks who make all this stuff up are the ones with a agenda...It seems to me much of this stuff is just propaganda made up to weaken the trust folks would have in our system. I often notice that very few liberals even seem to be involved in these conspiracy plans. But every republican seems to be right in the thick of every evil plot... Why is this...if we lose all confidence in our western system, what other system or group would benefit? Who benefits when we think all our western leaders can no longer be trusted? Who benefits when the folks no longer believe we should stand up for our traditional ideas? I would like to know if a powerful propaganda group like the KGB could be behind much of these conspiracy ideas? Just my thoughts
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yes there is an agenda behind conspiracy theory...a very old agenda...

the whole idea of conspiracy theory traces back to the original conspiracy theorist...

'do you seriously believe the official story about the fruit of that tree?'
 
Most conspiracy theories are just that theories made up of people seeking any way they can to involve a person into some corrupt agenda to discredit a person.

However with that being said I have seen some that were very insightful and did raise some very valid questions.

Even the bible shows we are not to take things at face value, for we are called to test all things and not accept every whim as truth.

Have you seen the video, "911: In Plane Site"?

If not you should as this person breaks down the things that happened back in 2001, and he started this inquiry to prove another conspiracy group wrong that made a video called, "Hunt the Boeing."

One of the questions raised is how does a 100+ foot across plane fit in a 16-18 ft. hole, or a 65 ft. across hole after collapse of that part of the building and leave no debris ???
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
yes there is an agenda behind conspiracy theory...a very old agenda...

the whole idea of conspiracy theory traces back to the original conspiracy theorist...

'do you seriously believe the official story about the fruit of that tree?'
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Nice try, Rachel -- and, your intended point is easily understood -- however, the comparison is really weak. It would be far closer to the truth to say that Satan is the Father of all conspiracy than to suggest that he labeled [ the Holy Trinity ] as conspirators.

Satan was / is not a conspiracy theorist...

Satan was / is a conspiracy instigator...

:)
 
Mitspa said:
Who benefits when we think all our western leaders can no longer be trusted?
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Everyone -- because it is the truth. The most damaging thing we can do is "make believe" that they can be trusted...

:)
 
Mitspa said:
The more I watch some of these conspiracy things the more it seems the folks who make all this stuff up are the ones with a agenda...It seems to me much of this stuff is just propaganda made up to weaken the trust folks would have in our system. I often notice that very few liberals even seem to be involved in these conspiracy plans. But every republican seems to be right in the thick of every evil plot... Why is this...if we lose all confidence in our western system, what other system or group would benefit? Who benefits when we think all our western leaders can no longer be trusted? Who benefits when the folks no longer believe we should stand up for our traditional ideas? I would like to know if a powerful propaganda group like the KGB could be behind much of these conspiracy ideas? Just my thoughts
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The problem is not "the system" -- it is "those running it"... ( I know that this suggests that - ultimately - there is a problem with the system. And, it is true that it is not a perfect system. )

There is not necessarily anything wrong with "traditional ideas" -- it depends on whose tradition, and what ideas... ;)

What you have to understand is that -- the 'system' has been "trashed" by evil-doers. Democrats and Republicans alike are "right in the thick of every evil plot" -- they ( the ones involved ) "are all on the same side"... ( "Yes - it is a conspiracy." )

:)
 
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The bible offers the biggest conspiracy - That Lucifer will exalting himself to be like God.You will find all the other conspiracies are part of this.It's not the conspiracy theorists who are spreading propaganda or are looney....it's the conspirators.
 
Mitspa said:
Take a blue pill and consider my logic :)
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"Hey --- you are starting to sound like a conspirator..." ;)

( Only a conspirator would tell someone to "take a blue pill" -- i.e., "go [ back ] to sleep" :eek: )

"Just sayin'..." :p ( hehe )

:)
 
Elysian said:
It's not the conspiracy theorists who are spreading propaganda or are looney....it's the conspirators.
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While I might be tempted to say something like:

"Sometimes, conspiracy theorists - intentionally or unintentionally - create their own propaganda..."

-- I also know that - in the absolute majority of cases - it is the conspirators that "lay out" the propaganda [ snare ] that some conspiracy theorists "fall into" so easily...

"Yes - it is the conspirators who are 'looney'..." ;)

:)
 
GaryA said:
Everyone -- because it is the truth. The most damaging thing we can do is "make believe" that they can be trusted...

:)
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Seeing that almost none of this stuff can be proven in the legal sense...how do you know what is true and maybe the folks telling you how evil others are...are the evil ones?
 
Mitspa said:
Seeing that almost none of this stuff can be proven in the legal sense...how do you know what is true and maybe the folks telling you how evil others are...are the evil ones?
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The answer to your question is "just a bit" complex -- the short answer is represented by these two statements in my signature:


Awareness + Open Eyes + Common Sense + Discernment =>
"The ability to step outside the MATRIX and see it for yourself..."

Humility => Knowledge + Awareness + Discernment
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The place to start? The Bible, of course! The Bible has the answers to your questions.

When a person learns - from the Bible - enough about God, Satan, Humanity, etc. -- and, obtains a "deep-enough" understanding of the "full meaning" of this verse of scripture:


Ephesians 6:

[SUP]12[/SUP] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.



And then -- applies all of that to the second statement ( above ) first --- the "good result" of that will "lend itself" to the accomplishing of the first statement ( above ) after that...

Having done that --- a person will see the world ( 'physical' and 'spiritual' ) as it really is --- and, will no longer believe the "fairy tale" that they have been 'fed' all of their life...



:)
 
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