Ignore Button Abuse: Ignorance is NOT BLISS!!!

[MarcR]

Let it be known that I didn't name names though there was insinuation that only those with awareness (of the issue) would be able to decipher. I did it that way so the thread wouldn't be removed and we could discuss this issue, but instead I was met with mockery and belittling. People misunderstood the intent of the OP and began attacking me. I even was told I was of the devil... sigh.

Well, as I said before, everything is coming to light and all is plainly being seen. The masks are coming off and whats beneath is being revealed. Reminds me of the Pharisees and Jesus referring them to a tomb.

So many replies, but I would like to thank people that came in support and encouragement. I appreciate it, it makes me know that people see whats going on and are not fooled by certain tactics. So for those people, thank you, thanks for revealing what this is all about and coming in agreement.

Truth you say !!!

I was there and present in the other threads between you and Just-Me, and your stance that he put you on ignore or is ignoring you was not done wrongfully. Which is why what you say would be slander and a lie as well.

You even started your own thread to try and get clarification on those of us you and a couple others were falsely trying to claim legalism on.

He has his reasons and he got tired of being accused of supposedly saying the written ordinances of the Mosaic law have to be obeyed for salvation, in which he never said any such thing.

Just-me and myself are tying to educate others in the Spiritual (moral) meanings behind the law, and to get people to take their focus just off the physical written ordinance form that brought forth death do to the flesh being weak !!!

For this we get accused of being legalist, and frankly we are tired of the false allegations !!!


God bless and dust your feet off and move on instead of accusing others of by your opinion of passing false doctrine which he is not doing !!!

I am trying not to take sides in this post; though I freely admit I favor Ben's side of the argument.

I think that both of you need to differentiate better between differing opinion and lying.

In the course of an argument or discussion all parties to the discussion are likely to have sharply different viewpoints as to what is true. That which is in your opinion, or in fact, untrue is NOT a lie unless the untruth is clearly not believed by the one who wrote or spoke it. If it is believed, but yet untrue, it is an error. The difference is that a lie has inherent malace; but an error does not.

 

[Sirk]

I am trying not to take sides in this post; though I freely admit I favor Ben's side of the argument.

I think that both of you need to differentiate better between differing opinion and lying.

In the course of an argument or discussion all parties to the discussion are likely to have sharply different viewpoints as to what is true. That which is in your opinion, or in fact, untrue is NOT a lie unless the untruth is clearly not believed by the one who wrote or spoke it. If it is believed, but yet untrue, it is an error. The difference is that a lie has inherent malace; but an error does not.

With the throwing around of words such as liar, satans spawn etc.....it makes it easy to spot the people who are stuck in their own pit.

 

[BenFTW]

Seems to me that the ones who protest the most have the most to hide....this comment is not about you btw. But generally, whenever I see someone all bent out of shape about being slighted in some way I think to myself....grow up and get over it.

Someone's name used to be a big thing back then. It was all that they had, it was their reputation. I am only defending mine. It isn't a matter of whining and bickering, it is a matter of self defense. Its me standing up to defamation when I am being accused of things when the source of the problem isn't me.

But beyond that, I understand what you're saying. "Move on." Some of us want this silliness to end, and so it is being addressed. Do you have any resolutions to offer?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Just-me and myself are tying to educate others in the Spiritual (moral) meanings behind the law, and to get people to take their focus just off the physical written ordinance form that brought forth death do to the flesh being weak !!!

This explains perfectly their doctrine. Under the old covenant people couldn't keep the law because the flesh was weak due to sin. Now under the new covenant, we can keep the law because the flesh is strong due to the spirit.

???.... !!!... erk!

 

[Sirk]

Someone's name used to be a big thing back then. It was all that they had, it was their reputation. I am only defending mine. It isn't a matter of whining and bickering, it is a matter of self defense. Its me standing up to defamation when I am being accused of things when the source of the problem isn't me.

But beyond that, I understand what you're saying. "Move on." Some of us want this silliness to end, and so it is being addressed. Do you have any resolutions to offer?

You don't need to defend yourself on my account. I like you. Besides...seeking justice for yourself is always a fruitless endeavor.

 

[VioletReigns]

I used to put people on ignore who were infuriating me............. or who were bullying other people........... or who were posting religious dogma..........

But then my spiritual eyes were open that every situation is a learning opportunity for me to grow in Christ Jesus. And that the wrath of me doesn't work the righteousness of God.... and that praying for & loving bullies is better than trying to debate them..... and to post stuff that lifts up the Lord Jesus Christ in spite of the daily rhetoric in the threads.

Now I have nobody on ignore. I'm still learning. My flesh still gets its hackles up and probably always will. But my relationship with Jesus is growing stronger, He is more real to me than this temporary realm, and my carnality is becoming less and less significant to me, especially my opinion (which stinks as bad as everyone else's).

I am not called to save anyone online. I'm not called to post scripture on this site. God didn't commission me to utilize the internet for His glory. I was called to follow Jesus, that is it. The Lord will work through me whatever He wants to, with or without my permission. So anything I post on this site, you can take it or leave it.

And vice versa.

 

[Sirk]

I don't have anyone on ignore. I like to see what the nut jobs are saying too! Lol.

*disclaimer* If this offends you then it is about you. Lol

 

[Billyd]

I'm back a little earlier than expected. It's been almost two weeks and this type of discussion still continues. Here's MHO.

This is supposed to be the Bible Discussion Forum. I take that as a forum to discuss the Bible. What it actually states, rather than what I want it to say. During the past few months, I've watched, and participated on a limited basis, a continuous effort to prove that he who believes different than I do is wrong. What has been lost in the noise is a few good actual discussions of the scripture. There are several people on this forum who have a vast knowledge of the scripture, and are eager to share that knowledge. Instead of spending your days arguing about whether or not the tenets of your denomination are the perfect Gospel, why do you discuss the actual scripture and find out what it actually means? It might have the message that you need to hear right now.

Now to the OP. I put people on ignore for one and only one reason. Addressing the same topic with the same list of single single verse scriptures (most without comment) to prove that you are right and every one else is wrong. It's a waste of my time to read what you've posted, and I know that you won't listen when I tell you anything different. IMHO, those who do this should take their discussion to the Conspiracies Forum.

 

[just-me]

[SUP]"[/SUP]Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the Lord thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers:And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee. Deuteronomy 7:12-13

In reference to the op.http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...ic-pharisees-didnt-recognize.html#post2302221

Please do your best not to derail or cause conflict. I present this strictly for edification sake.Let us converse in a respectful and peaceful manner as our Almighty God, through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ would have us to do.

First, God is good for His word. He will never back up on His promises. The hypocrites didn't keep His judgments on purpose. God has a condition for keeping covenant with us, and that is if we hearken (intellectually hear) His Judgments. If we desire to hear Him, He will bless us.

If not, Jesus will remind us, as He did the Pharisees, that the judgments of God are being neglected, and we must needs repent for this omission.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Matthew 23:23

 

[GodIsSalvation]

I haven't used the ignore button, don't really intend to, or see a point to for myself, but maybe for others. It's there though, so I assume it's a legit button to press. So also the Reply button here in the forum to public topic. Keep in mind those that want private topic they have those chat groups and blogs and all that stuff for the more private things. CC hath good resources indeed as just a mere website.

Ignoring is ignorance indeed. I have said this myself. That cuts both ways though for the ignorer and ignored. What be it then if the unofficial but implied Unignore feature be used?

This topic is ignored by billions of people, even by no malice. Therefore I suppose I shall just be ignored and ignore the ignoring with a pondering on the Ignore Button.

 

[BenFTW]

I'm back a little earlier than expected. It's been almost two weeks and this type of discussion still continues. Here's MHO.

This is supposed to be the Bible Discussion Forum. I take that as a forum to discuss the Bible. What it actually states, rather than what I want it to say. During the past few months, I've watched, and participated on a limited basis, a continuous effort to prove that he who believes different than I do is wrong. What has been lost in the noise is a few good actual discussions of the scripture. There are several people on this forum who have a vast knowledge of the scripture, and are eager to share that knowledge. Instead of spending your days arguing about whether or not the tenets of your denomination are the perfect Gospel, why do you discuss the actual scripture and find out what it actually means? It might have the message that you need to hear right now.

Now to the OP. I put people on ignore for one and only one reason. Addressing the same topic with the same list of single single verse scriptures (most without comment) to prove that you are right and every one else is wrong. It's a waste of my time to read what you've posted, and I know that you won't listen when I tell you anything different. IMHO, those who do this should take their discussion to the Conspiracies Forum.

That is at the core the issue and also the point of the OP. Have biblical discussion but don't halt it through ignoring others and yet say that you are seeking edification. A person says, "Lets discuss this topic, but first let me put those in opposition on ignore so I can preach to the choir." As others have stated, it is getting to the point of being cult-ish. I agree, lets study the Word and see what it says, not ignore those with differing view points so that we cannot edify one another unto the truth.

 

[Sirk]

That is at the core the issue and also the point of the OP. Have biblical discussion but don't halt it through ignoring others and yet say that you are seeking edification. A person says, "Lets discuss this topic, but first let me put those in opposition on ignore so I can preach to the choir." As others have stated, it is getting to the point of being cult-ish. I agree, lets study the Word and see what it says, not ignore those with differing view points so that we cannot edify one another unto the truth.

People do not know how to fight fair nor do they want too...they just fight to win or to be right or to save face or because they are reckless with their words, or because they consider themselves superior to others...or because they foster a victim mentality...or because they desire to have control and power over others. The list goes on and on. We are all little balls of self protecting nut jobs in one way or another.

 

[ukok102nak]

:happy:
James: 1. 22. But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23. For if a man be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he shall be compared to a man beholding his own countenance in a glass. 24. For he beheld himself, and went his way, and presently forgot what manner of man he was.

 

[VioletReigns]

Oh, and by the way............. the voice of God speaks to us plainly and simply, like a Father to His children. He doesn't speak to us in riddles. I love talking with the Lord because He's so clear and precise and He speaks astounding and glorious truth so simply that even a child can understand.

That's why I don't bother reading most of the longer posts on this site. Honestly, if it's resonating some religious vibe in the first couple sentences and makes me wince in my spirit because it's coming from pride and self-righteousness, or worse yet - portrays God as some angry, threatening entity of their own imagination - I cannot stomach it. I will just move past it.

 

[VioletReigns]

Hey, they should have an unlike button on this forum. It should be in red. That would save a lot of time and energy, ya know?

It would also show how the majority feels about a particular idea.

Unlike

 

[ukok102nak]

Let the word of god be our witness
my breathrens :smoke: and my fellows :happy:
John: 7. 18. He that speaketh of himself, seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh the glory of him that sent him, he is true, and there is no injustice in him.

AGAIN :smoke:
Philippians: 3. 19. Whose end is destruction; whose God is their belly; and whose glory is in their shame; who mind earthly things.
20. But our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, our Lord Jesus Christ,
21. Who will reform the body of our lowness, made like to the body of his glory, according to the operation whereby also he is able to subdue all things unto himself.

For this are not my words but the words of god in truth
Philippians: 3. 19. Whose end is destruction; whose God is their belly; and whose glory is in their shame; who mind earthly things.
20. But our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, our Lord Jesus Christ,
21. Who will reform the body of our lowness, made like to the body of his glory, according to the operation whereby also he is able to subdue all things unto himself.

 

[Utah]

I haven't used the ignore button.

I wish you'd ignore me once in a while.

You see the smiley? That means I'm kidding.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

I wish you'd ignore me once in a while.

You see the smiley? That means I'm kidding.

Your wish be granted you. So I shall ignore your suggestion and opinion pertaining to the Ignore Button and press the reply button here in the public forum since you ask me in particular.

 

[atwhatcost]

Someone's name used to be a big thing back then. It was all that they had, it was their reputation. I am only defending mine. It isn't a matter of whining and bickering, it is a matter of self defense. Its me standing up to defamation when I am being accused of things when the source of the problem isn't me.

But beyond that, I understand what you're saying. "Move on." Some of us want this silliness to end, and so it is being addressed. Do you have any resolutions to offer?

Yes, let go! For Pete sake, (whoever Pete is lol) Let go!

This is like watching four pitbulls each chomping at the neck of the next one. Pitbills don't know to stop chomping. You are a person (with redeemed value.) You can let go! LET GO!

One of the things I've had to learn to write a novel is to trust the reader. That is to trust the reader enough to get what's going on that I, the writer, don't have to hammer the heck out of the point, don't have to nail the point over and over and over again, don't have to assume unless I say it 20 times in 20 different ways, the reader just can't understand. Readers aren't as dumb as we fear.

I'm writing for middle grade kids. (8 year olds to 12 year olds.) Please note, this site (generally) requires an older age. Honest! Honesthonesthonest! We GET the freaking point! Ain't many who don't, and the ones who don't will come around. I GET THE FREAKING POINT

and look how long that took me. (I actually happen to disagree with both sides, but at least one side is reasonable... coughBencough... most of the time.)

LET GO! You're reputation isn't tarnished. Even if it is, God's a repairer. We really really REALLY get what's going on. No more hammering needed. None. Zip. Zilch. Nada. (Yes. Humor there in doing exactly what I just said not to do.

)

LET GO!

And you know what happens? When there is no attention given to attention seekers, they go elsewhere for the attention... or, better yet, learn how to play better.

This is exactly why I work so hard not to defend myself. (And anyone laughing, first go back and check how many times I could have defended myself, and IF I defended myself. I'm not completely able to walk away, but I am much better at it. lol) No defense needed most of the time, and when some is -- God works it out so we get that defense.

Should I repeat the 20th time, or do you get what I'm directly and bluntly saying yet?

 

[dcontroversal]

AMEN TO THAT....I think is is cowardly and lacks mercy, understanding and sets forth an immature attitude when one uses the ignore button over doctrinal disputes.....If one thinks they are right it would seem they would not be so easily offended and I will also say....Jesus said...blessed are you when you are persecuted for righteousness sake....Good thing Jesus was not so easily offended by those who ridiculed and belittled him for his stance...Having said that....I will not ignore anyone no matter how much I may disagree with them and or be engaged with them in heated exchanges!