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The Law Debacle Resolved
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eternally-gratefull
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Hense the issue
We take the law as what it says, We are unworthy at all times
Or we water down the law to make it bearable. Thus deceiving ourselves
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who is nausiated by someone who is righteous?
We get nauseated when someone teaches self righteousness./
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Because some folks think they have to do it in their own strength and all they have to do is rest in his grace. The Holy Spirit will give us the strength.
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Up's and down's but consistently blessed, admonished and secured in Christ Jesus. Yours?Hi SisHow is your weekend going?
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In the OP.......
If all believers live as Jesus lived, and do as Jesus teaches, there would be no question about obedience of God.
This does resolve te discussion.
All who read the Word know what Jesus teaches; that is, all who know where His teaching begins and ends in the Word. Others will always be contentious using only what part of the Word they have read. Teaching disobedience by giving in to the popular teaching of men that once saved they have nothing to do with that faith given them; they just bury it until the Master is to return. I prefer to at least put it in the bank for interest to be gained. The bank, of course, is the fellowship and mutual light shining in all of us together.
If all believers live as Jesus lived, and do as Jesus teaches, there would be no question about obedience of God.
This does resolve te discussion.
All who read the Word know what Jesus teaches; that is, all who know where His teaching begins and ends in the Word. Others will always be contentious using only what part of the Word they have read. Teaching disobedience by giving in to the popular teaching of men that once saved they have nothing to do with that faith given them; they just bury it until the Master is to return. I prefer to at least put it in the bank for interest to be gained. The bank, of course, is the fellowship and mutual light shining in all of us together.
Its not the effort in obedience that's nauseating, its the self righteous, condemning attitudes against people who embrace God's grace for what it is -- sufficient.
The last several posts are interesting and quite true. But when the Pharisees wake up and come in here. LOOK OUT.
I'm your huckleberry; and that's just my game.
1Pe 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
1Pe 1:14
As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
The yoke and burden Jesus is talking about is having faith in Him, and loving God and neighbor.
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Very nice. Marriage is a beautiful thing between one man and one woman. Christ and the church metaphor.
Ephesians 5:23-32
[SUP]23 [/SUP]For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
[SUP]26 [/SUP]That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
[SUP]27 [/SUP]That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
[SUP]30 [/SUP]For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
That's correct. It's not about Moses (or Elijah).
Now it happened that about eight days after these words, he took along Peter and John and James and went up on the mountain to pray. And as he was praying, the appearance of his face became different, and his clothing became white, gleaming like lightning.
And behold, two men were talking with him, who were Moses [the law] and Elijah [the prophets],
who appeared in glory and were speaking about his departure which he was about to fulfill in Jerusalem. Now Peter and those with him were very sleepy, but when they became fully awake, they saw his glory and the two men who were standing with him. And it happened that as they were going away from him,
Peter said to Jesus, “Master, it is good for us to be here. And let us make three shelters, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah,” not knowing what he was saying.
And while he was saying these things, a cloud came and overshadowed them, and they were afraid as they entered into the cloud. And a voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is my Son, my Chosen One. Listen to him!”
And after the voice had occurred, Jesus was found alone. And they kept silent and told no one in those days anything of what they had seen. Luke 9:28-36
And behold, two men were talking with him, who were Moses [the law] and Elijah [the prophets],
who appeared in glory and were speaking about his departure which he was about to fulfill in Jerusalem. Now Peter and those with him were very sleepy, but when they became fully awake, they saw his glory and the two men who were standing with him. And it happened that as they were going away from him,
Peter said to Jesus, “Master, it is good for us to be here. And let us make three shelters, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah,” not knowing what he was saying.
And while he was saying these things, a cloud came and overshadowed them, and they were afraid as they entered into the cloud. And a voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is my Son, my Chosen One. Listen to him!”
And after the voice had occurred, Jesus was found alone. And they kept silent and told no one in those days anything of what they had seen. Luke 9:28-36
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which commandments?
Jesus did not give many...save love
your keep referring to commandments and yet you do not appear to know what they actually are!
it's not the 10 commandments.....
Listen: the Israelites were terrified at the sight of mountain, smoking, lighting and display of power. They would not approach and so Moses became their go between
Today, we have Jesus, our High Priest...we do not approach a scary mountain (holy God) we approach a loving God who has provided ALL we need to come and say Abba Father
Honestly, you law folk ought to wear the 10 commandments...out of stone...and appreciate the heavy burden...you might start looking for a way to get rid of them and take the extended hand of Christ...HE is your law fulfilled
is it any use?
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This is not twisting scripture as...................
Tell me how a person can transgress the law when they are walking in :
Love, self-control, kindness, longsuffering, joy, peace, goodness, gentleness, and faithfulness !!!
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