Russian army now in Syria?

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RachelBibleStudent

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I have bandwidth problems and can't get the video to play, but the message is something we all need to be concerned about: Expulsion of Christians from Syria.

Film: EXPULSION - Syrian Christians under attack from ISIS/FSA and NATO
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unfortunately we also need to be concerned about assuming that everyone who identifies as a 'christian' in that part of the world really is a follower of christ...there are some 'christians' over there decapitating muslims in retribution against ISIS...

welcome to the gray area...
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
unfortunately we also need to be concerned about assuming that everyone who identifies as a 'christian' in that part of the world really is a follower of christ...there are some 'christians' over there decapitating muslims in retribution against ISIS...

welcome to the gray area...
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Could you give an example of Christians decapitating Muslims in Syria?
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Thanks for the example. Do you have more examples or is this an isolated case. I hope it is.

I don't think that you can compare the wrong of a single Christian with the wrong that Muslims systematically do to Syrian Christians.
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my point is that we can't assume that everyone identifying with the 'christian' label in that part of the world is a real follower of christ...and we need to keep that in mind when we hear about christians being persecuted there as well as calls to act in their defense...

blanket defense of everything purporting to be 'christian' in that part of the world may turn out to be just as unwise as haphazardly arming unvetted rebel roups...
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
my point is that we can't assume that everyone identifying with the 'christian' label in that part of the world is a real follower of christ...
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That could be said about every christian in every part of the world, not only about those in Syria. Only because one man identifies himself as a Christian and committed a sin (murder) does not change the reality that Christians in Syria are being severely persecuted and denied basic human rights and are in need of help.

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and we need to keep that in mind when we hear about christians being persecuted there as well as calls to act in their defense...
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We need to keep what in mind? That isolated case of a Christian decapitating a Muslim?

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blanket defense of everything purporting to be 'christian' in that part of the world may turn out to be just as unwise as haphazardly arming unvetted rebel roups...
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Christians (not 'christians') in that part of the world need help!

Persecution In Syria | Christian Freedom International
 
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Should we find it at all surprising that people in that area of the world are exchanging brutality for brutality?

It does not change who bears most of the responsibility i.e. ISIS nor should it change whom members of the free world support.
 
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Lol if you can tell me a way to escape the world without dying first I'll go frankly. For all the nations are corrupt and yea, even the whole world is terrible. Friendship with the world is enmity with God it is written.

Democracy doesn't even exist, never has. Secularism is a lie. I genuinely believe this, and yea it is not just belief, but also knowledge. I reckon those that call people trolls do so because they either do not understand or they do not want to accept reality. This is in part why I do not call anyone a troll, a fool, or stupid.
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Escape the world? You don't have to die. You could emulate the desert fathers and live in a cave somewhere. As for secularism and democracy being a lie. Well the only alternatives are absolute Monarchy or Dictatorship. A prime example of
both can be found in Saudi Arabia where you can be Beheaded or Crucified for protesting against the government. I know
which form of government I would choose to live under. As for Trolls perhaps you approve of the one who keeps sending
messages regarding Black Magic to the Bible Discussion forum or am I' not understanding or accepting reality' there as well
 
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Poor Germany. They get it the worst. Their government has almost irreperably destroyed their culture with this immigration. UK isn't looking too pretty either. London isn't even a predominantly English city anymore. I would have loved to have seen it back before this cultural amalgamation.
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In London Immigrants are concentrated in certain parts of the suburbs 'the East End in particular which has a long history of immigrants settling there. If you came to central London where the tourist sites are you would find it much the same as it always has been. Best to visit off season though because it gets very crowded in the Summer.
 
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Escape the world? You don't have to die. You could emulate the desert fathers and live in a cave somewhere. As for secularism and democracy being a lie. Well the only alternatives are absolute Monarchy or Dictatorship. A prime example of
both can be found in Saudi Arabia where you can be Beheaded or Crucified for protesting against the government. I know
which form of government I would choose to live under. As for Trolls perhaps you approve of the one who keeps sending
messages regarding Black Magic to the Bible Discussion forum or am I' not understanding or accepting reality' there as well
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If you're forced to choose between Islamic monarchy and democrazy then you got quite a problem on your hands I'd say. Way I figure I am not forced to choose either one, and there is no real sense in making a choice between a pile of bullcrap and a pile of horsecrap seeing as they're both crap. They're not the only alternatives. So the implication is false that I would have to opt for an equally failed form of government just because I know secularism is hypocrisy and democracy is a scam.

As for the hindu sorcerer solicitor that visits the forums from time to time. Indeed I do not think s/he/it is a troll.. It is my suspicion it is not even a person, but rather some sort of robot based on how quick it spits out threads. Trolls are fictional monsters that do not actually exist, and in the modern times is an insult against a living person to try to dehumanize them, oft employed by false accusers.
 
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It's a mistake to equate monarchy or oligarchy with totalitarianism as many Westerners tend to do.

Who among us would rather hang their hat in a Islamic "republic" than one of the European monarchies that died out a hundred years ago?
 
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