The Charismatic movement?

[Cee]

Acts 2 was a miracle! If you had 120 people all speaking at the same time different languages, would you BE able to understand them? No! This was a miracle. 1 Co 14 explains tongues. Which is not how you are here.

It says the following...

1. Tongues are unknown to man, but known to God
2. Tongues are languages of men and ANGELS
3. The Spirit of God is praying through us when speaking in tongues
4. Paul spoke in tongues more than anyone else
5. Paul desired everyone to speak in tongues!
6. But even more to prophesy!
7. Paul COMMANDS believers to prophesy! Above ANY other gift. Even the natural ones.
8. Paul COMMANDS that we should not forbid to speak in tongues.
9. Tongues is for unbelievers because they CAN'T understand it! Not because they can.
10. Prophesy is for BELIEVERS! Because they CAN understand it.
11. Tongues should be done in order, but first of all it should be done.
12. Glossolalia does NOT mean known languages it means literally, tongues/languages talking.

I have a video of a polish girl who doesn't know English who speaks in English tongues, but that doesn't mean all tongues are supposed to be known. In fact, Scriptures says they won't be known. (1 Co 14:21In the Law it is written, "BY MEN OF STRANGE TONGUES AND BY THE LIPS OF STRANGERS I WILL SPEAK TO THIS PEOPLE, AND EVEN SO THEY WILL NOT LISTEN TO ME," says the Lord. 22So then tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophecy is for a sign, not to unbelievers but to those who believe.) Notice it says STRANGE tongues, not KNOWN tongues.

And people complain that tongues are "strange" they are supposed to be! God confounds the wise!

And in case you still don't think Acts 2 was a miracle itself. Not the complete understanding of tongues, look at verse 1 Co 14:23 which is RIGHT after the Scripture I quoted...

23Therefore if the whole church assembles together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad?

If Acts 2 was the complete understanding of tongues this Scripture wouldn't make sense. Notice it says "ungifted" or "unbelievers" these people CAN'T understand what you are saying in tongues because YOU ARE SPEAKING TO GOD! Why would they think you were mad if they could understand it? That's not what happened in Acts 2 is it!

So you can clearly see that tongues is an unknown tongue not a known tongue. Let me know if you need more Scriptures or if this explains it clearly enough.

C.

How the true cloven tongue came upon the Apostles was a sign for them. The Scripture is not specific that the people present saw it come upon the Apostles.

Acts 2:3-4
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
KJV


The speakers there were Christ's Apostles. The "other tongues" was about other languages, which means the cloven (divided, going out in many directions) tongue they spoke was understood by all present that were listening, even in their own dialects of their language of birth.

I sincerely suggest you go back into God's Word and study the matter as it is actually written, and taking it back to the manuscript level also.

In Act 2, there is no such phrase as "unknown tongue" written there. Only the words for languages is there, even the word for dialect, which means the slang one speaks from a certain region of a language (like English compared between America and Britain).

Acts 2:8-11
8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue (dialektos), wherein we were born?
9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
KJV



In 1 Cor.14, the phrase "unknown tongue" is a mistranslation by the KJV translators. The word "unknown" is NOT in the manuscripts. They added the word "unknown". What is there, is the same Greek meaning as per the Acts 2 example, glossa, which is about known languages of the world that people speak.

I'm surprised that very little has been said about the one tongue that all nations once spoke prior to the tower of Babel event. That is what The Holy Spirit was manifesting on that day. Per Zech.3:9, God revealed He will return to all peoples this one language that all used to speak, so that we all may call upon Him to serve Him with one consent.

Therefore, if for example a preacher that speaks only English goes to a foreign nation, to a congregation that does not speak or understand English, and that one preaches The Gospel, and if those foreign peoples understand in their own languages, even the dialects of their languages, then THAT... is an example of the cloven tongue that the Apostles spoke on Pentecost. I have had witnesses of this very thing happening with missionaries in nations outside the West. So like Apostle Paul said, the cloven tongue is a sign for the UNBELIEVER, not the believer (1 Cor.14:22).

 

[notuptome]

On this very page you tried to deny parts of Gods word... I doubt anyone should accept you as a defender of God Word.

God has said that natural men will not understand the word of God.

Ignore sound doctrine at your own peril.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[notuptome]

I'm trying not to pick on you anymore Roger, and in that spirit let me agree with you on this.

You're right those idiots in the church where they tempt God are asking for trouble, both here and in the future. They're really mocking God and they will be called to account for it.

But that doesn't mean somebody today couldn't have a similar experience to Paul's.

I wish you would demonstrate more of this common sense you have in this post.

What you see as the marginal Pentecostal or charismatic I see as the mainstream.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[notuptome]

Acts 2 was a miracle! If you had 120 people all speaking at the same time different languages, would you BE able to understand them? No! This was a miracle. 1 Co 14 explains tongues. Which is not how you are here.

It says the following...

1. Tongues are unknown to man, but known to God
2. Tongues are languages of men and ANGELS
3. The Spirit of God is praying through us when speaking in tongues
4. Paul spoke in tongues more than anyone else
5. Paul desired everyone to speak in tongues!
6. But even more to prophesy!
7. Paul COMMANDS believers to prophesy! Above ANY other gift. Even the natural ones.
8. Paul COMMANDS that we should not forbid to speak in tongues.
9. Tongues is for unbelievers because they CAN'T understand it! Not because they can.
10. Prophesy is for BELIEVERS! Because they CAN understand it.
11. Tongues should be done in order, but first of all it should be done.
12. Glossolalia does NOT mean known languages it means literally, tongues/languages talking.

I have a video of a polish girl who doesn't know English who speaks in English tongues, but that doesn't mean all tongues are supposed to be known. In fact, Scriptures says they won't be known. (1 Co 14:21In the Law it is written, "BY MEN OF STRANGE TONGUES AND BY THE LIPS OF STRANGERS I WILL SPEAK TO THIS PEOPLE, AND EVEN SO THEY WILL NOT LISTEN TO ME," says the Lord. 22So then tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophecy is for a sign, not to unbelievers but to those who believe.) Notice it says STRANGE tongues, not KNOWN tongues.

And people complain that tongues are "strange" they are supposed to be! God confounds the wise!

And in case you still don't think Acts 2 was a miracle itself. Not the complete understanding of tongues, look at verse 1 Co 14:23 which is RIGHT after the Scripture I quoted...

23Therefore if the whole church assembles together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad?

If Acts 2 was the complete understanding of tongues this Scripture wouldn't make sense. Notice it says "ungifted" or "unbelievers" these people CAN'T understand what you are saying in tongues because YOU ARE SPEAKING TO GOD! Why would they think you were mad if they could understand it? That's not what happened in Acts 2 is it!

So you can clearly see that tongues is an unknown tongue not a known tongue. Let me know if you need more Scriptures or if this explains it clearly enough.

C.

Sure thing. God speaks in unknowable tongues so He can make us His dearly loved creation feel insignificant and useless.

There is not one place in scripture where God spoke un unknown tongues. You put tongues in the lips of the speaker God puts tongues in the ears of the hearers. There is not one place in scripture where we see angels speaking in angelic tongues. Angels spoke in human languages to proclaim Messiahs birth and it rang though out all earth.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Mitspa]

Sure thing. God speaks in unknowable tongues so He can make us His dearly loved creation feel insignificant and useless.

There is not one place in scripture where God spoke un unknown tongues. You put tongues in the lips of the speaker God puts tongues in the ears of the hearers. There is not one place in scripture where we see angels speaking in angelic tongues. Angels spoke in human languages to proclaim Messiahs birth and it rang though out all earth.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him

 

[Mitspa]

God has said that natural men will not understand the word of God.

Ignore sound doctrine at your own peril.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

So sound doctrine to you is to try to delete parts of the bible and to deny the work and gifts of the Holy Spirit?

Funny ..that sounds like error and heresy to me.

 

[Cee]

What are you talking about?

Of course angels talked in human languages when talking to humans.

1 Co 13:1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

There's your Scripture. Tongues of men and of angels. And it's not always the language of the people in front of you either. I have many testimonies of people speaking in languages they don't know until someone comes up and let's them know.

I just showed you in Scripture that tongues is strange languages. Are you ignoring that Scripture?

1 Co 14:2For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit.

One who speaks in a tongue is speaking to GOD! Not men. It is mysteries. Are you ignoring this Scripture?

1 Co 14:55Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy.

Paul says all should speak in tongues! And even more to prophesy! Do you speak in tongues? Do you prophesy? Are you ignoring this Scripture too?

1 Co 14:14For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful.

Your spirit prays when you pray in a tongue! Right there in Scripture exactly like I said.

If you choose to not pray in tongues that's your choice, but it is clearly in Scripture, so I suggest you not tell people they shouldn't pray in tongues because I don't see how that's sound doctrine at all.

Which by the way is 1 Scripture! One Scripture says to follow sound doctrine, but I have quoted far more than one Scripture on tongues, but you think it's not necessary? Or of God? Seriously? If you were going to follow sound doctrine like you have said let's see what it says:

1 Tim 4:6 In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, constantly nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following.

Sound doctrine includes words of the FAITH (this is unseen things not seen) and it requires us to follow... what are we following? The pattern of Paul as he follows Christ of course.

So what's the pattern of Paul? 18I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.

I agree we should speak in tongues like Paul does, that is sound doctrine.

C.

Sure thing. God speaks in unknowable tongues so He can make us His dearly loved creation feel insignificant and useless.

There is not one place in scripture where God spoke un unknown tongues. You put tongues in the lips of the speaker God puts tongues in the ears of the hearers. There is not one place in scripture where we see angels speaking in angelic tongues. Angels spoke in human languages to proclaim Messiahs birth and it rang though out all earth.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[RickyZ]

What you see as the marginal Pentecostal or charismatic I see as the mainstream.

Roger

Mainstream or marginal, you tend to dismiss the real with the false on these kinds of things.

Do you believe that someone could have an experience similar to Paul's today? That one could be accidently bitten by a poisonous snake and not suffer any ill effects because of the Holy Spirit? Today?

 

[notuptome]

Mainstream or marginal, you tend to dismiss the real with the false on these kinds of things.

Do you believe that someone could have an experience similar to Paul's today? That one could be accidently bitten by a poisonous snake and not suffer any ill effects because of the Holy Spirit? Today?

Without a doubt.

I am certain that many of us including myself have been protected by God from dangers and perils that I was not even aware of but none the less would have been deadly to my person.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[notuptome]

1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him

What possible reason would one have to speak in an unknown tongue to God? God does know all tongues correct? So no man nor yourself would know so what is profitable in that?

Your application and understanding of this passage is inane.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[notuptome]

What are you talking about?

Of course angels talked in human languages when talking to humans.

1 Co 13:1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

There's your Scripture. Tongues of men and of angels. And it's not always the language of the people in front of you either. I have many testimonies of people speaking in languages they don't know until someone comes up and let's them know.

I just showed you in Scripture that tongues is strange languages. Are you ignoring that Scripture?

You just changed tracks here. Strange languages are not unknowable tongues.

Paul used a tiny preposition in the phrase "if" if I speak. He did not say he actually spoke in angelic tongues. The thrust of the verse in the context of the letter to the Corinthians was for correction. Anything done without love is unprofitable.

1 Co 14:2For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit.

One who speaks in a tongue is speaking to GOD! Not men. It is mysteries. Are you ignoring this Scripture?

1 Co 14:55Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy.

Paul says all should speak in tongues! And even more to prophesy! Do you speak in tongues? Do you prophesy? Are you ignoring this Scripture too?

1 Co 14:14For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful.

Your spirit prays when you pray in a tongue! Right there in Scripture exactly like I said.

If you choose to not pray in tongues that's your choice, but it is clearly in Scripture, so I suggest you not tell people they shouldn't pray in tongues because I don't see how that's sound doctrine at all.

Which by the way is 1 Scripture! One Scripture says to follow sound doctrine, but I have quoted far more than one Scripture on tongues, but you think it's not necessary? Or of God? Seriously? If you were going to follow sound doctrine like you have said let's see what it says:

1 Tim 4:6 In pointing out these things to the brethren, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, constantly nourished on the words of the faith and of the sound doctrine which you have been following.

Sound doctrine includes words of the FAITH (this is unseen things not seen) and it requires us to follow... what are we following? The pattern of Paul as he follows Christ of course.

So what's the pattern of Paul? 18I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.

I agree we should speak in tongues like Paul does, that is sound doctrine.

C.

You mistreat the scriptures and gloss over context as well as content. I guess it's hard for you to perceive of a close relationship with the Lord because what you write gives no evidence of one.

The Holy Spirit is a revealer of truth not a concealer. Mysteries of the OT are made plain. I through Christ speak directly to God making my needs and petitions known to Him who is able to do for me.

You delight in babble when you should seek the holy presence of God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[RickyZ]

What possible reason would one have to speak in an unknown tongue to God? God does know all tongues correct? So no man nor yourself would know so what is profitable in that?

Roger

Suppose you were praying for someone. You can present all you know about the situation to God. But suppose there are things going on that you do not know about - how do you lift those before God? The Holy Spirit knows what you don't, by allowing the spirit to pray thru you, you can then lift to God the things (mysteries) you know nothing about.

Would that not profit the person you are praying for?

 

[notuptome]

Suppose you were praying for someone. You can present all you know about the situation to God. But suppose there are things going on that you do not know about - how do you lift those before God? The Holy Spirit knows what you don't, by allowing the spirit to pray thru you, you can then lift to God the things (mysteries) you know nothing about.

Would that not profit the person you are praying for?

Again I cannot attest to how some folks relate to the Lord but I just tell Him what I know and admit to Him I don't know what He knows but I do trust Him to do what is right and best for all involved. Gods wisdom far exceeds mine.

God is not all spooky and I do not go all spooky with Him. We just chat like a son to his Father. I cannot count the number of times I have prayed for others only to have God reveal something about me to me. I do know that god loves the other guy or gal as much as He love me and He will do what is best in His sight for them as He does for me.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[RickyZ]

Again I cannot attest to how some folks relate to the Lord but I just tell Him what I know and admit to Him I don't know what He knows but I do trust Him to do what is right and best for all involved. Gods wisdom far exceeds mine.

God is not all spooky and I do not go all spooky with Him. We just chat like a son to his Father. I cannot count the number of times I have prayed for others only to have God reveal something about me to me. I do know that god loves the other guy or gal as much as He love me and He will do what is best in His sight for them as He does for me.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

For sure God is not spooky, He's awesome!

When God reveals something to you while you pray for others, would you consider that a gift of knowledge or wisdom?

 

[Kefa54]

What do you mean the spirit prays through us. I believe it is the other way around. We pray through the spirit. The Spirit intercedes for us.

Intercede: to speak to someone in order to defend or help.

Suppose you were praying for someone. You can present all you know about the situation to God. But suppose there are things going on that you do not know about - how do you lift those before God? The Holy Spirit knows what you don't, by allowing the spirit to pray thru you, you can then lift to God the things (mysteries) you know nothing about.

Would that not profit the person you are praying for?

[h=1]Romans 8:26-27Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)[/h] [SUP]26 [/SUP]In the same way the Spirit also joins to help in our weakness, because we do not know what to pray for as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us[SUP][a][/SUP] with unspoken groanings. [SUP]27 [/SUP]And He who searches the hearts knows the Spirit’s mind-set, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

 

[RickyZ]

[SUP]26 [/SUP]In the same way the Spirit also joins to help in our weakness, because we do not know what to pray for as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us[SUP][a][/SUP] with unspoken groanings. [SUP]27 [/SUP]

If we don't know what to pray for, and the Holy Spirit intercedes upon our lack of knowledge by giving us unspoken groanings, is it not the Spirit speaking thru us?

I'm pretty sure I'm not smart enough to put words into the Holy Spirit's mouth.

When we speak in the Holy Spirit, it is the Spirit that provides us with the words, is it not?

 

[Kefa54]

What do you mean by "speak in the Holy Spirit".

If we don't know what to pray for, and the Holy Spirit intercedes upon our lack of knowledge by giving us unspoken groanings, is it not the Spirit speaking thru us?

I'm pretty sure I'm not smart enough to put words into the Holy Spirit's mouth.

When we speak in the Holy Spirit, it is the Spirit that provides us with the words, is it not?

 

[Cee]

I'm done with this topic, I won't resort to personal attacks.

 

[DP]

Acts 2 was a miracle! If you had 120 people all speaking at the same time different languages, would you BE able to understand them? No! This was a miracle. 1 Co 14 explains tongues. Which is not how you are here.

It says the following...

1. Tongues are unknown to man, but known to God
2. Tongues are languages of men and ANGELS
3. The Spirit of God is praying through us when speaking in tongues
4. Paul spoke in tongues more than anyone else
5. Paul desired everyone to speak in tongues!
6. But even more to prophesy!
7. Paul COMMANDS believers to prophesy! Above ANY other gift. Even the natural ones.
8. Paul COMMANDS that we should not forbid to speak in tongues.
9. Tongues is for unbelievers because they CAN'T understand it! Not because they can.
10. Prophesy is for BELIEVERS! Because they CAN understand it.
11. Tongues should be done in order, but first of all it should be done.
12. Glossolalia does NOT mean known languages it means literally, tongues/languages talking.

I have a video of a polish girl who doesn't know English who speaks in English tongues, but that doesn't mean all tongues are supposed to be known. In fact, Scriptures says they won't be known. (1 Co 14:21In the Law it is written, "BY MEN OF STRANGE TONGUES AND BY THE LIPS OF STRANGERS I WILL SPEAK TO THIS PEOPLE, AND EVEN SO THEY WILL NOT LISTEN TO ME," says the Lord. 22So then tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophecy is for a sign, not to unbelievers but to those who believe.) Notice it says STRANGE tongues, not KNOWN tongues.

And people complain that tongues are "strange" they are supposed to be! God confounds the wise!

And in case you still don't think Acts 2 was a miracle itself. Not the complete understanding of tongues, look at verse 1 Co 14:23 which is RIGHT after the Scripture I quoted...

23Therefore if the whole church assembles together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad?

If Acts 2 was the complete understanding of tongues this Scripture wouldn't make sense. Notice it says "ungifted" or "unbelievers" these people CAN'T understand what you are saying in tongues because YOU ARE SPEAKING TO GOD! Why would they think you were mad if they could understand it? That's not what happened in Acts 2 is it!

So you can clearly see that tongues is an unknown tongue not a known tongue. Let me know if you need more Scriptures or if this explains it clearly enough.

C.

You reveal you haven't really understood the Acts 2 Scripture as written, because you're adding ideas you've been taught that are not really there at all.

There is NO Scripture example in Acts 2 where the cloven tongue manifested like peoples all speaking at the same time their languages of birth causing confusion, and that is not any idea of mine in any of my posts here.


The way the cloven tongue manifested per Acts 2 is that when the Apostles spoke, all present heard IN their own language of birth, even their very dialects of the region of birth (now that's... accurate!).

But the way many today claim is that cloven tongue, the majority present cannot... understand it, period. Can you grasp that difference then, i.e., 1) understanding what is said in your OWN dialect vs. 2) understanding nothing but babbling?

Furthermore, Paul is specific in 1 Cor.14 that to 'prophesy' is NOT about speaking in some unknown tongue. The word "unknown" is NOT in the Greek at all! It was added. The Greek word is either 'glossa' (KNOWN languages of the world) or 'dialektos' (Greek for dialect).

Per Paul, to prophesy means to TEACH, to EDIFY.

So your "languages talking" idea, that's an amazing evidence of deception against how the true cloven tongue manifested per Acts 2.

 

[DP]

Acts 2 was a miracle! If you had 120 people all speaking at the same time different languages, would you BE able to understand them? No! This was a miracle. 1 Co 14 explains tongues. Which is not how you are here.

It says the following...

1. Tongues are unknown to man, but known to God
2. Tongues are languages of men and ANGELS
3. The Spirit of God is praying through us when speaking in tongues
4. Paul spoke in tongues more than anyone else
5. Paul desired everyone to speak in tongues!
6. But even more to prophesy!
7. Paul COMMANDS believers to prophesy! Above ANY other gift. Even the natural ones.
8. Paul COMMANDS that we should not forbid to speak in tongues.
9. Tongues is for unbelievers because they CAN'T understand it! Not because they can.
10. Prophesy is for BELIEVERS! Because they CAN understand it.
11. Tongues should be done in order, but first of all it should be done.
12. Glossolalia does NOT mean known languages it means literally, tongues/languages talking.


C.

1. No such thing as an "unknown" tongue written in God's Word. The word "unknown" in 1 Cor.14, like in the KJV Bible for one example, is NOT there in the Greek NT manuscripts. The KJV translators added that word "unknown", so you MUST STRIKE IT OUT. That leaves you with the concept of 'tongue' and 'tongues' only, not some unknown mysterious tongue.

2. You missed this by Paul:
1 Cor 12:10
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
KJV

Do you not see the word "kinds" there in that "diverse kinds of tongues" phrase? I thought the cloven tongue was a tongue of angels per your view, and only about a mysterious unknown tongue? Yet Paul is talking about various "kinds" of languages that men speak per that verse, not some unknown tongue idea. He's talking about various types of KNOWN languages of the world, which again "tongues" is the Greek word 'glossa' which means known languages of the world.

3.
1 Cor 14:22 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
KJV



Draw a line through that word "unknown", it is not in the Greek NT manuscripts the KJV translators used. When we speak our own language and no one present can understand our language, then Who is left that will hear us speaking? God only!

And per many Biblical examples, when God's servants spoke under the influence of The Holy Spirit, they spoke in KNOWN languages to people who understood, not in some babble tongue. So speaking in some babble that none can understand does not mean our spirit is speaking mysteries.

4. & 5.
1 Cor 14:18-19
18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
KJV

Apostle Paul indeed did... speak more different languages than they. He spoke Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, the language of Cilicia which at that time was some form of Persian dialect, and obviously he spoke the language of Rome since he was also a Roman citizen. THAT... is the kind of "tongues" he was talking about.

God gifts some with the ability to speak many different languages, known... languages of the different peoples in the world. British actor Peter Ustinov I believe spoke twelve different languages fluently, and he wasn't even a missionary! This gift of ability in working with languages is what Paul was especially referring to in the 1 Cor.12 chapter.

6.
1 Cor 14:3-4
3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
KJV



Again, strike out that word "unknown" there, it's not in the Greek. To prophesy per Paul there does NOT to get up and speak babble while only one or two persons present can interpret. Prophesying there means TEACHING with known words everyone present can understand.

7. Because of what Paul said above, TEACHING is to be sought after over the speaking different languages (glossa).

8. Paul taught that is to be by course (turns) by two or at most three, and let one interpret. If no one can interpret, keep silent in the Church. Again, Paul is speaking about known languages of the world, not some unknown tongue. Someone with a different language comes in and wants to speak, let him interpret if he knows the language of those present, or let someone who does know the language interpret. Do that by course, taking turns, and no more than three. Paul's limitation on that ESPECIALLY reveals peace in the Church, and not babel confusion.

9. & 10.
The cloven tongue is a sign for the unbeliever, BECAUSE they will hear in their perfect DIALECT of their OWN LANGUAGE OF BIRTH, even when a foreigner speaks it.

Learn another language other than the one you were born speaking, and then let a person born in that language hear you. They will immediately know you are a foreigner, unless... you have spent literal many years... living in the region to learn that language dialect. It's a tell-tell sign, very easy to distinguish. And THAT... is what was so amazing to the peoples present on Pentecost, because when the Apostles spoke, the peoples present heard in their PERFECT DIALECTS of their natural birth, while knowing the Apostles were from Galilee. If someone from the southeastern U.S. had been present at Pentecost, they would have heard the Apostles use phrases like 'you-all', and if from the northern U.S. phrases like 'youse-guys'. That is how accurate The Holy Spirit is with interpreting in the ears of those present. It shows God literally knows how we speak and hear.

That... is how the true cloven tongue is a SIGN for the unbeliever. They will KNOW that working can only come from God who understands how we speak and hear.

It is NOT a sign for the believer, which should tell you just what the cloven tongue was given for, i.e., to preach The Gospel to other nations. A major job God gave the Western Christian nations after they accepted Christ Jesus was to go to the rest of the world, including to far east Asia, and preach The Gospel. Thus God prepared them with the cloven tongue as a tool to do just that.

11.
Again, this is about someone with another known language coming into the Church with a message, and someone needs to interpret. If no interpreter, then they are to keep silent, so keeping PEACE in the Church so those present can learn is No.1, along with prophesying (TEACHING THE WORD OF GOD). For God is not the Author of confusion, but of peace as it is in all Churches of the saints.

12.

NT:1100
glossa (gloce-sah'); of uncertain affinity; the tongue; by implication, a language (specially, one naturally unacquired):

KJV - tongue.
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