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B
I can't say that I am blameless in terms of the righteousness of the law but I can say that He has made me accepted in the beloved, in whom I have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace (Eph 1:6,7). After being indwelt by the Holy Spirit when we believed the gospel of Christ, we are filled with the Spirit and the love of God is revealed unto us and becomes operational in our heart. If we fail or become carnal in the flesh for a time, the Holy Spirit does not abandon us or shut us of from receiving grace. He lovingly convicts our heart and allows us to respond by faith seeing the error of our way. God through the Holy Spirit does not condemn us but offers us grace and we receive it and go on in the strength of that grace knowing that we have been justified not only positionally but experientially in our walk. This is part of growing in grace and knowledge of our Lord and it brings love, joy and peace in our heart as the fruit of the Spirit.
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No im sure you don't have any understanding of flesh and spirit a trying to explain the new man and old man to you in context of these scriptures would just be a vain effort and would just go into a endless circle of your errors and false logic...but what I can do is prove in clear and evident terms that Jesus Christ, the word made flesh had no sin in His flesh and make you back down from your blasphemy against His holiness and purity.
hey RobertH
was this goat (the "scapegoat") a sinner?
yet it carried all the sins of Israel.
do you understand?
When Aaron has finished making atonement for the Most Holy Place, the tent of meeting and the altar, he shall bring forward the live goat. He is to lay both hands on the head of the live goat and confess over it all the wickedness and rebellion of the Israelites—all their sins—and put them on the goat’s head. He shall send the goat away into the wilderness in the care of someone appointed for the task. The goat will carry on itself all their sins to a remote place; and the man shall release it in the wilderness.
(Leviticus 16:20-22)
(Leviticus 16:20-22)
was this goat (the "scapegoat") a sinner?
yet it carried all the sins of Israel.
do you understand?
B
Romans 6:6 Knowing this that our old man s crucified WITH him, that the body of sin might be destroyed. Our old man was crucified not IN CHRIST but WITH CHRIST. Christ was crucified in weakness (not sin) with our sin being placed upon his body. That is how he bore our sin. He only bore our sin on the cross and not before or after he died. He not only died FOR US with our sin imputed to his body but AS US when we were crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed. We were buried WITH him in baptism INTO his death.
There is no indication that our old man of sin or Adam's sin resided in the members of Christ's body before, during or after the cross. This is all positional truth that takes place through faith when we believe upon the finished work of the Son that took place on the cross. For Christ to have sin reigning in the members of own body at any time would make him a sinful man in need of salvation and not the author of it. For Christ to be without sin is the only way he could become sin and he did so voluntarily as the Son of God and the son of man. He who knew no sin became sin of his own volition to take away sin through his death, burial and resurrection as the lamb of God.
There is no indication that our old man of sin or Adam's sin resided in the members of Christ's body before, during or after the cross. This is all positional truth that takes place through faith when we believe upon the finished work of the Son that took place on the cross. For Christ to have sin reigning in the members of own body at any time would make him a sinful man in need of salvation and not the author of it. For Christ to be without sin is the only way he could become sin and he did so voluntarily as the Son of God and the son of man. He who knew no sin became sin of his own volition to take away sin through his death, burial and resurrection as the lamb of God.