GOP Presidential Nomination

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For real ya'll don't like Kasich cause he interrupts their fantasy-filled bullcrap to give them a reality check? I've watched these debates, just about all these people interrupt each other all the time. At least Kasich brought the reality check on them. Kasich said on the banks that he'd save peoples' deposits, especially the poor people. Yea you'd have to separate people, the poor from the rich in a run on the banks, and the rich would be the ones that lose, but they be covered, even more under Kasich than the current president, but they'd still lose a bunch of money. If you got a million dollars and only 500k was covered, you're gonna lose money whereas a poor person with only 50k be fully covered, though that is the case all ready at 250k last I checked. So Kasich covers more and adds more insurance to mitigate a bank run/Great Depression scenario. The Kool-Aid drinking type on the GOP side boos Kasich who'd strengthen the protections against a financial calamity. Claps for Cruz whom has same position as Hillary and that is a position that removes the walls and protections our forefathers placed to try to spare us the horrors of the Great Depression they saw in their epic and legendary time. Now if you don't pick Kasich, or it seems Bush subtly agreed with him, you pretty much waste an excellent mode of attack against Hillary in the general.


As for immigration, Kasich is right again. Saying you're going to deport 11 million people is not only unrealistic, but it assures them defeat in the general election. Just look at Trump's answer his subtle allusion to Operation Wetback being his inspiration (that's it's literal name of it, sorry for shameful US past of racism and oppression). Kasich's idea is smart because it will encourage millions to come out of the shadows. If they have no violent criminal past they just pay a small fee/penalty and then can enjoy the benefits of citizenship. That's pro-growth will help the economy. An untold number of oppressed Christians right here in America will be instantly unyoked from a hard oppression. That's a pragmatic and practical Christian solution. For their criminals they won't come out of the shadows anyways, the police will get them, then you can deport them, incarcerate them, whatever punishment fits their crime. Even though he got smeared badly I think this was Kasich's best night for his individual performance in the debates frankly. He answered honestly and smartly with practical and morally righteous answers and shows why he has achieved the best record on economy and domestic issues of all the candidates in both the GOP and Democrats. Very telling how the GOP crowd hates their best and most accomplished politicians. If these people have their way I don't want to hear no conspiracy theories about why Hillary won, it will be because the GOP loves the worst of their party and hates the best.
 
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My friends, you know me to be neither rash nor impulsive. I'm not given to wild unsupported statements,...and I tell you that we must evacuate this planet immediately.

- Jorell, Superman I


I'm with Jorell, lets pack up.
I'd avoid offending the Kool-Aid drinking members of the GOP in last nights audience. They are all voting in the primaries and in the general election.

Greg Gutfeld was on "The Five" this afternoon. He said Kasich reminded him of the guy in front of you at the front desk of the hotel, who just won't stop complaining about the shower head in his room. You just want to smack him and tell him to quit complaining. Then Eric Boling said that Kasich may well have ended his campaign when he said he would pick the winners and the losers in a bank failure. It's lucky nobody had a rope. And was it really so oppressive to tell illegal immigrants they were going to be sent back to their country of origin?

I wish more candidates would discuss deficit spending and debt like Rand Paul. When people run for office, they love telling you how they are going to grow government to solve your problems. Then we all find out that the huge size of government is the problem. I want to see a competition between them where they tell us how small they can make the federal government.

Here's another idea, why not invite the Democrats to the next debate. Don't have a Democrat debate and a Republican debate. Put them all together. Thunderdome.
 
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My friends, you know me to be neither rash nor impulsive. I'm not given to wild unsupported statements,...and I tell you that we must evacuate this planet immediately.

- Jorell, Superman I


I'm with Jorell, lets pack up.
I'd avoid offending the Kool-Aid drinking members of the GOP in last nights audience. They are all voting in the primaries and in the general election.

Greg Gutfeld was on "The Five" this afternoon. He said Kasich reminded him of the guy in front of you at the front desk of the hotel, who just won't stop complaining about the shower head in his room. You just want to smack him and tell him to quit complaining. Then Eric Boling said that Kasich may well have ended his campaign when he said he would pick the winners and the losers in a bank failure. It's lucky nobody had a rope. And was it really so oppressive to tell illegal immigrants they were going to be sent back to their country of origin?

I wish more candidates would discuss deficit spending and debt like Rand Paul. When people run for office, they love telling you how they are going to grow government to solve your problems. Then we all find out that the huge size of government is the problem. I want to see a competition between them where they tell us how small they can make the federal government.

Here's another idea, why not invite the Democrats to the next debate. Don't have a Democrat debate and a Republican debate. Put them all together. Thunderdome.
Kasich has the record of getting stuff done. His complaints are valid. He is like the super for the apartment building and the GOPers are the tenants booing him for fixing their plumbing. We need someone who will address reality with practical and prosperous and Christian solutions. Not more of the same old rehash of fantasy-filled lies that have led the GOP to defeat the last two presidential elections. You'd think the GOP would have learned by now, guess not. Like I said, when Hillary wins because the Kool-Aid drinkers pick a Kool-Aid drinking candidate I don't want to hear the conspiracy theories and excuses like they made up when they lost to Obama. They can blame themselves, testament against themselves clapping for the most perfidious men in America and booing at the only candidates that can beat Hillary and more importantly fix the country somewhat.
 
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Guess everyone is gonna insist on ignoring Carly F., yet she answers all the complaints. You want smaller govt? So does she.
Fiscal responsibility? Ditto. Strong stand against illegals? Right again. Pro-defense and will stand up against communism, leftism, terrorist dirtbags? Bingo. Yahtzee. Winner! And she's smart enough to surround herself with good advisors, and savvy enough and thick-skinned enough to handle the media and the critics. So? What's everybody afraid of?
 
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Guess everyone is gonna insist on ignoring Carly F., yet she answers all the complaints. You want smaller govt? So does she.
Fiscal responsibility? Ditto. Strong stand against illegals? Right again. Pro-defense and will stand up against communism, leftism, terrorist dirtbags? Bingo. Yahtzee. Winner! And she's smart enough to surround herself with good advisors, and savvy enough and thick-skinned enough to handle the media and the critics. So? What's everybody afraid of?
Carly Fiorina is one of the worst CEOs in modern history, she was ousted for a reason. We don't need America to lose half it's value under an inexperienced president. She herself says she wants a meritocracy, we do need a president with experience and a good record indeed. Unfortunately for her she comes up low on the list. I think we all know deep down she's only on the stage because the GOP is trying to make the illusion that it is more diverse.
 
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Well to break a little from the high drama and madness of the debates, a little by way of the behind the scenes analysis. Been using this site to monitor the upcoming debates. Figure for ya'll fellow kingly political watchers might find it a useful tool. Can see details about upcoming debates ahead of time and also watch previous debates in full. Is updated regularly for changes the come with this particular campaign where you have certain candidates trying to pressure the media to change to suit them like Trump and Carson.
Republican Debate Schedule (2016 Primary Debates) | 2016 Election Central


Next debate moderator will be Wolf Blitzer, fairly good journalist in my opinion, good in the sense I can expect the possibility of a more meatier and hardball foreign policy session. Looks like my wish be granted me on the FOX as well. Megyn Kelly is slated to have another crack at it. Tis strange indeed, never found myself more sympathetic to that sly furry creature til I seen all the dogs they have to try to deal with. Foxes aren't pets though and they are cunning critters.
 
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Next debate moderator will be Wolf Blitzer, fairly good journalist in my opinion, good in the sense I can expect the possibility of a more meatier and hardball foreign policy session. Looks like my wish be granted me on the FOX as well. Megyn Kelly is slated to have another crack at it. Tis strange indeed, never found myself more sympathetic to that sly furry creature til I seen all the dogs they have to try to deal with. Foxes aren't pets though and they are cunning critters.
Wolf Blitzer? How is he able to hide the fact he has a room temp I.Q.

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It's good to stay loyal to someone you admire. But John Kasich is at the far left end of the stage for a reason. He's about 1% away from being sent to the kiddies table in the spare room. Someone else will likely win the nomination. Frank Lutz discusses with his audience the moments during the debates that they had the strongest positive and negative feeling toward a candidate. these are people who voted both for Democrats and Republicans in past elections. They just don't like Kasich. He twitches, he has bad timing, he seems rude, it all over rides whatever achievements he has accomplished as Governor. Today, many, if not most people who study candidates debating skills, say that he did the worst of the eight upper tier Republicans. Even Rand Paul scored higher.

I would not count Carly Fiorina out. What happened at HP requires a close look to judge her fairly. She was hired just before a national collapse, where many of her competitors went out of business. She combined two companies, trimmed a lot of excess costs, which happened to be a lot of employees, and by doing so, saved the company. All her opponents want to focus on is that she let employees go, which is true but out of context. She may be the most intelligent person running. I would say, after this last debate, that Jeb Bush is easily the least intelligent person running. It's embarrassing to watch him speak.

I don't want to be called a conspiratorialist. Not electing John Kasich will not be the reason Republicans lose, if they do lose. It will be that the nominee does not win enough electoral votes. The reason for that I have repeatedly said is that millions of Hispanic families in the U.S. that have maybe 4 or more children that grew to voting age since President Obama first took office, will be voting for Hillary at a rate of perhaps 5 to 1. This will swing many states to Hillary that previously were red states. This does not include several swing states that will go to her and no longer be considered swing states as a result of the growing Hispanic population. It's not a conspiracy, it's grade school math.
 
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Electability.

If you want to preach to the choir, you better understand whose in the choir.



 
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Wolf Blitzer? How is he able to hide the fact he has a room temp I.Q.

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It's good to stay loyal to someone you admire. But John Kasich is at the far left end of the stage for a reason. He's about 1% away from being sent to the kiddies table in the spare room. Someone else will likely win the nomination. Frank Lutz discusses with his audience the moments during the debates that they had the strongest positive and negative feeling toward a candidate. these are people who voted both for Democrats and Republicans in past elections. They just don't like Kasich. He twitches, he has bad timing, he seems rude, it all over rides whatever achievements he has accomplished as Governor. Today, many, if not most people who study candidates debating skills, say that he did the worst of the eight upper tier Republicans. Even Rand Paul scored higher.

I would not count Carly Fiorina out. What happened at HP requires a close look to judge her fairly. She was hired just before a national collapse, where many of her competitors went out of business. She combined two companies, trimmed a lot of excess costs, which happened to be a lot of employees, and by doing so, saved the company. All her opponents want to focus on is that she let employees go, which is true but out of context. She may be the most intelligent person running. I would say, after this last debate, that Jeb Bush is easily the least intelligent person running. It's embarrassing to watch him speak.

I don't want to be called a conspiratorialist. Not electing John Kasich will not be the reason Republicans lose, if they do lose. It will be that the nominee does not win enough electoral votes. The reason for that I have repeatedly said is that millions of Hispanic families in the U.S. that have maybe 4 or more children that grew to voting age since President Obama first took office, will be voting for Hillary at a rate of perhaps 5 to 1. This will swing many states to Hillary that previously were red states. This does not include several swing states that will go to her and no longer be considered swing states as a result of the growing Hispanic population. It's not a conspiracy, it's grade school math.
Thank you, sinner, lol, I thought I was alone about Carly, and believe me, I did not start out as a big fan, but I think I allowed myself to be swayed by the things I was hearing in soundbites, rather than using some common sense and patience with her. I've since found out that many who opposed her in those business dealings have since changed their tune and support her, a few even admitting that things they said were not altogether true, but were simply business tactics.
But I know it's hard for many ppl, being so busy, to gather all the facts themselves,...we're almost forced to rely on soundbites and less than honest media at times. I just hope ppl will give her more of a chance and REALLY listen to the things she's saying. But I just don't think the GOP will accept a woman frontrunner. I'm sorry to say that and hope they prove me wrong. I still think they should have taken Michelle Bachman more seriously as well, she had some good ideas and also had a strong stance against islamo-terrorism. Anyway, I wish we could take pieces of the good from all the candidates and form them into one. Lol. We really do have some good ppl running on the right, while the left is an obvious disaster. We do well to look for the good and try to encourage that from all the GOP candidates. This is still a great country, despite the lefts attempts to fundamentally transform it into a hated has-been, and it's worth the effort to pray and support it for Jesus' sake. And with that, thank you veterans, God bless you and thank you for your service. One way to honor them is to elect good leaders who will support them, and all our service-members at home and around the world, not have them hung out to dry, like what's been done to our Navy Seals or the USS COLE or our representatives in BenGhazi, etc, etc, etc. Those things alone should be enough to run the current leftist bums out of the White House, and keep any former ones from re-entering.
 

Desdichado

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For real ya'll don't like Kasich cause he interrupts their fantasy-filled bullcrap to give them a reality check? I've watched these debates, just about all these people interrupt each other all the time. At least Kasich brought the reality check on them. Kasich said on the banks that he'd save peoples' deposits, especially the poor people. Yea you'd have to separate people, the poor from the rich in a run on the banks, and the rich would be the ones that lose, but they be covered, even more under Kasich than the current president, but they'd still lose a bunch of money. If you got a million dollars and only 500k was covered, you're gonna lose money whereas a poor person with only 50k be fully covered, though that is the case all ready at 250k last I checked. So Kasich covers more and adds more insurance to mitigate a bank run/Great Depression scenario. The Kool-Aid drinking type on the GOP side boos Kasich who'd strengthen the protections against a financial calamity. Claps for Cruz whom has same position as Hillary and that is a position that removes the walls and protections our forefathers placed to try to spare us the horrors of the Great Depression they saw in their epic and legendary time. Now if you don't pick Kasich, or it seems Bush subtly agreed with him, you pretty much waste an excellent mode of attack against Hillary in the general.


As for immigration, Kasich is right again. Saying you're going to deport 11 million people is not only unrealistic, but it assures them defeat in the general election. Just look at Trump's answer his subtle allusion to Operation Wetback being his inspiration (that's it's literal name of it, sorry for shameful US past of racism and oppression). Kasich's idea is smart because it will encourage millions to come out of the shadows. If they have no violent criminal past they just pay a small fee/penalty and then can enjoy the benefits of citizenship. That's pro-growth will help the economy. An untold number of oppressed Christians right here in America will be instantly unyoked from a hard oppression. That's a pragmatic and practical Christian solution. For their criminals they won't come out of the shadows anyways, the police will get them, then you can deport them, incarcerate them, whatever punishment fits their crime. Even though he got smeared badly I think this was Kasich's best night for his individual performance in the debates frankly. He answered honestly and smartly with practical and morally righteous answers and shows why he has achieved the best record on economy and domestic issues of all the candidates in both the GOP and Democrats. Very telling how the GOP crowd hates their best and most accomplished politicians. If these people have their way I don't want to hear no conspiracy theories about why Hillary won, it will be because the GOP loves the worst of their party and hates the best.
Nope. I don't like him because he's the GOP's angry muppet.
 

Desdichado

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Looks like the angry muppet wore out his welcome. It was a less than mediocre run.
He could be the god of economic policy. It was poorly executed. His staff should be fired.
 
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Sometimes I have to chuckle. Christ made the point of keeping spiritual beliefs separate from politics and government.
 
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sydlit

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Sometimes I have to chuckle. Christ made the point of keeping spiritual beliefs separate from politics and government.
Not sure where you get that from. If you're thinking 'render unto caeser/render unto God' that's a bit of a stretch. Otherwise, where did Christ make the point of separating spiritual beliefs from anything?
Seems to be that separation has caused much of the mess we're in in the first place. But I'm willing to listen to other points of reason.
 

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Wake me, when Cruz takes the nomination. zzzzzz :rolleyes: