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thefightinglamb

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Is halloween necessarily evil? There is something in me that beliees that to innocent children, dressing up as Biblical characters , going door to door witnessing, they can truly preach and reach those caught in vain practices--and if someday those dressing as Jacobs, Jesus, Rachels, Davids, Samsons, and Abrahams overwhelmed the devils and other evil costumes? Could that possibly still be evil?

You decide...But halloween I think can be just a time of love and 'dress-up' for kids, where Christians dress up as what they are or are seeking and witness to those in the dark...

Personally I don't think it is the worship of demons are anything like that...unless it is to you...

'May God bless EVERYONE and help us to be good'--From "Little Men" the sequel to "Little Women" which is a great book. :)

tony
 
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xspinningisfun

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I believe it's only evil when you actually celebrate the REAL reason.
But if it's just the sole of dressing up and getting ready, I don't think it's evil.

I don't celebrate it. I feel it's pointless. Haha.
 
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carpetmanswife

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im with both of u on this one
 
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eagleheart

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Helloween is occult,it is a day that satan is worshipped. witches celebrate the Witches Sabbat
4 times a year,it is the celebration of the old pagan rites,and the worship of satan..

1. Candlemass Feb.2
2.May Eve. May1
3.Lammas August1
4Helloween October31

There are 3 major satanic holidays
1.Walpurgisnacht
2.Helloween
3.Satanist own birthday


If you are a christian and are involved in helloween
in any way,it is sin,and you give satan legal rights to oppress you,your children,the devil could care less

whether you think you are involved innocently,as long as you are involved,you are openning the door to the powers of darkness.
Deuteronomy 18:10-13
Exodus 22:18
 
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carpetmanswife

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ok ..i disagree ..but ok
 
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goth4god

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so im going to hell just cuz i like to dress up and get free candy?
Halloween is the only day i can dress up and not get weird looks! lol
I love to dress at pirates and such!
and i love candy!
so this day works for me! lol! and i just do it to have fun!
 
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So you have a choice between hell or rotten teeth from all the candy...hmm tough choice.
 
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christkid777

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I once heard a preacher say money takes on the nature of the one who owns it. Good men do good with it and evil men do evil. If halloween became a celebration of all the people in the Bible it would seem to be acceptable. As long as it celebrates darkness and the minions of evil it is of no acceptable use. Jesus came to bring us light which means we can now see better, if we will. Many people now throw angle parties for their kids on the same night so the kids are not cheated out of their chance to get cavities. The idea of a fall or harvest festival is not foreign to the Bible. It is a time to thank God for what he has done. The word hallow implies hollyness or consecration. As it is presently understood it is not for worshipers of Christ. However I doubt many people know or care what it really means.
 
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xspinningisfun

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Helloween is occult,it is a day that satan is worshipped. witches celebrate the Witches Sabbat
Well, "HALLOWEEN" can be bad if you do that for the reason. But it is NOT bad, imo, if you just want to have fun. You know, get dressed up, have a halloween party, get FREE CANDY!

It's not bad, I don't believe. Only if you do celebrate it for that reason eagleheart! Good point. Just pointing some stuff out :)
 
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easygoing

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If you are worshipping satan, witches, idols, etc etc than yes. Halloween would be an evil thing and should not be observed by a christian. Now if you are like all the normal people in the world you get your kids dressed up and walk around the neighborhood and have a good time with neighbors and kids get lots of treats. I am sure some of you who have built up walls all around yourselves because everything in your opinion is a sin. Ask yourself this do you think the lord put us here to enjoy his creation or did he send us here to sit in a bare room with our bibles on our laps and not actually get out and live?
 
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incorporatestreet

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halloween used to be the celebration of harvest.
then it turned into the pagan ritual of 'raising of the dead'

i went to a halloween dance and there was a girl dressed
up as jesus, and she was carrying a cross and ect, and she
got kicked out. yet there were countless devils and demons.
does this make sense? no. i personally got offended by her
getting kicked out.

as christians i do feel that we can be light in the dark,
but to what extent? and with what other dark things
in this world can we shed light on?
in doing this, we need to be very cautious.

halloween may seem innocent, especially for children.
but why should we as christians celebrate a pagan holiday?
not saying that those who do will go to hell because everyone
is convicted for different things.
 
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incorporatestreet

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If you are worshipping satan, witches, idols, etc etc than yes. Halloween would be an evil thing and should not be observed by a christian. Now if you are like all the normal people in the world you get your kids dressed up and walk around the neighborhood and have a good time with neighbors and kids get lots of treats. I am sure some of you who have built up walls all around yourselves because everything in your opinion is a sin. Ask yourself this do you think the lord put us here to enjoy his creation or did he send us here to sit in a bare room with our bibles on our laps and not actually get out and live?

as christians, we do need to gaurd our hearts and not associate ourselves with worldly
and fleshly things. going out and living could consist of having a few alcoholic drinks or
doing a couple of drugs or having sex, ect ect.
should we as christians be living the way of the world or in the way of the LORD?
we should be an example to others, not go out and let them be our example.
 
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hersecretrefuge

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I totally agree with tara!!
shes dead on.


No, I dont think you go to hell for trick and treating, but it originally started out as a pagen holiday and what is the point to celebrate it? Just because people feel like it's still okay to sugar coat it and do what they want, does not change the fact its still originally a evil holiday. You can't take something that was meant for evil, and minister by dressing up as Bible characters. Haha, it goes way beyond that. Trick or treating is not a way to reach the lost, your just participating in this "suger coated" holiday.
 
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xspinningisfun

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I totally agree with you! :)
 

Missy

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I don't celebrate halloween, and didn't allow my kids to either, after I became a Christian. The reason is because when I belonged to a coven, I was with them when they celebrated the real holiday, the way witches do, with spells and sacrifices, and they mock Christians because Christians know nothing about the real holiday. For the many who don't understand the symbolism of the candy, which is given to appease the demons, as a bribe. After I expained it to my kids, they were totally ok with not celebrating. Now, my oldest son is not letting my grandson participate inthe holiday for the same reason. I am so glad that it has carried to the next generation.

By the way, ever notice whythat its ok for schools to have halloween parties, and celebrate an obvoius religious holiday for the other side, but many schools don't allow "christmas" celebrations anymore?

Just like the easter bunny is a pagan fertillity symbol, we make a choice of what we will celebrate and how we will participate. At our house we celebrate the resurrection of Christ, not the easter bunny.

At Christmas, we don't do Santa, but we do celebrate Jesus birthday and honor our Lord as the focal point of the holiday.

This may be off topic, but another note about kids and holidays: I didn't lie to my kids and tell them that santa or the easter bunny is real, even when I wasn't a Christian. What kind of a message does that send to our kids, when we lie to them and trick them?

As Christians, we evaluate what we do, and why we do it. Is Halloween an exception?
 
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Charles

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Is halloween necessarily evil? There is something in me that beliees that to innocent children, dressing up as Biblical characters , going door to door witnessing, they can truly preach and reach those caught in vain practices--and if someday those dressing as Jacobs, Jesus, Rachels, Davids, Samsons, and Abrahams overwhelmed the devils and other evil costumes? Could that possibly still be evil?

You decide...But halloween I think can be just a time of love and 'dress-up' for kids, where Christians dress up as what they are or are seeking and witness to those in the dark...

Personally I don't think it is the worship of demons are anything like that...unless it is to you...

'May God bless EVERYONE and help us to be good'--From "Little Men" the sequel to "Little Women" which is a great book. :)

tony
That so-called holiday is derived from a pagan history, back to the Druids. In the 15th century the Pope of the Catholic church couldn't get the people to stop celebrating it so they compromised and said to celebrate All Saints Day in it's place: There is no DIFF, it is a pagan holiday. Sorry to say , even some denominations celebrate it.
 
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thefightinglamb

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Could there be people doing two different things on halloween?

I wouldn't not go to church on sunday because I found out that sunday was named after some 'sun god'...

I just really don't think kids are worshipping the devil who are not on that day...

Just because some people may worship the devil on October 31st doesn't mean that is what halloween is...

Just because Christmas is (possibly) derived from a pagan holiday doesn't mean that's what they are celebrating...

I really don't think anyone with a clear conscience that has gone trick or treating is worshipping the devil, or accepting candy from the devil or whatever...that never crossed my mind as a kid...I always saw it as a time to see and visit people in your community and love them for who they are...even if they handed out those nasty orange and black candies that nobody likes...

Yeah, if you dressed up as Jesus you might get persecuted, isn't that what Jesus said to expect since they did that to him? Does that mean you are not to do it? Secular people will mock Christians either in the dark or in the light of day, I still say witness to the people and love them and don't assume that they are witches looking to worship the devil...because its not true--it never was true for me...

The last year I went, I dressed up as a hockey player--but I was too poor to have a hockey Jersey so I wore a baseball shirt/jersey and roller blades with a lot of pads...pretty pathetic but evil?

Candy is not evil...and maybe I should narrow this discussion to is 'trick or treating evil?' Because I think that is what a lot of churches wish to denounce...as they have no qualms with going to their church and having a religious celebration that they claim is different (even though it is on the same day as) halloween...

Would you really rather have a bunch of secular people (your friends possibly or people you pray for) out on their own without any Christians with them? It seems like you are condemning them? Is it wrong to go with people trick or treating and not 'trick or treat' yourself (or do you all think that is still wrong?)? I personally believe Christians have power through Christ to spiritually influence situations (witness in a sense) and be Christ's light...

Worshipping the devil is the farthest thing from any Christians (child or adult) who tirck or treats? Is it wrong to be a princess? A prince?

So what is halloween? Do you all not see that even if it started as something bad supposedly--it is not the same thing it was...even as Christ said that all things are made new in Him?

Christ's love
tony
 

NoahsDad

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Halloween's origins date back to the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain (pronounced sow-in).
The Celts, who lived 2,000 years ago in the area that is now Ireland, the United Kingdom, and northern France, celebrated their new year on November 1. This day marked the end of summer and the harvest and the beginning of the dark, cold winter, a time of year that was often associated with human death. Celts believed that on the night before the new year, the boundary between the worlds of the living and the dead became blurred. On the night of October 31, they celebrated Samhain, when it was believed that the ghosts of the dead returned to earth. In addition to causing trouble and damaging crops, Celts thought that the presence of the otherworldly spirits made it easier for the Druids, or Celtic priests, to make predictions about the future. For a people entirely dependent on the volatile natural world, these prophecies were an important source of comfort and direction during the long, dark winter.
To commemorate the event, Druids built huge sacred bonfires, where the people gathered to burn crops and animals as sacrifices to the Celtic deities.
During the celebration, the Celts wore costumes, typically consisting of animal heads and skins, and attempted to tell each other's fortunes. When the celebration was over, they re-lit their hearth fires, which they had extinguished earlier that evening, from the sacred bonfire to help protect them during the coming winter.
By A.D. 43, Romans had conquered the majority of Celtic territory. In the course of the four hundred years that they ruled the Celtic lands, two festivals of Roman origin were combined with the traditional Celtic celebration of Samhain.

Video: The haunting History of All Hallow's Eve (Halloween).
Video: Timothy Dickinson tells the intriguing tale of why we celebrate Halloween, and it's evolution from Samhain, an ancient Celtic Harvest Festival.


The first was Feralia, a day in late October when the Romans traditionally commemorated the passing of the dead. The second was a day to honor Pomona, the Roman goddess of fruit and trees. The symbol of Pomona is the apple and the incorporation of this celebration into Samhain probably explains the tradition of "bobbing" for apples that is practiced today on Halloween.
By the 800s, the influence of Christianity had spread into Celtic lands. In the seventh century, Pope Boniface IV designated November 1 All Saints' Day, a time to honor saints and martyrs. It is widely believed today that the pope was attempting to replace the Celtic festival of the dead with a related, but church-sanctioned holiday. The celebration was also called All-hallows or All-hallowmas (from Middle English Alholowmesse meaning All Saints' Day) and the night before it, the night of Samhain, began to be called All-hallows Eve and, eventually, Halloween. Even later, in A.D. 1000, the church would make November 2 All Souls' Day, a day to honor the dead. It was celebrated similarly to Samhain, with big bonfires, parades, and dressing up in costumes as saints, angels, and devils. Together, the three celebrations, the eve of All Saints', All Saints', and All Souls', were called Hallowmas.
 

NoahsDad

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Pumpkin carving is a popular part of modern America's Halloween celebration. Come October, pumpkins can be found everywhere in the country from doorsteps to dinner tables. Despite the widespread carving that goes on in this country every autumn, few Americans really know why or when the jack o'lantern tradition began. Or, for that matter, whether the pumpkin is a fruit or a vegetable. Read on to find out!
People have been making jack o'lanterns at Halloween for centuries. The practice originated from an Irish myth about a man nicknamed "Stingy Jack." According to the story, Stingy Jack invited the Devil to have a drink with him. True to his name, Stingy Jack didn't want to pay for his drink, so he convinced the Devil to turn himself into a coin that Jack could use to buy their drinks. Once the Devil did so, Jack decided to keep the money and put it into his pocket next to a silver cross, which prevented the Devil from changing back into his original form. Jack eventually freed the Devil, under the condition that he would not bother Jack for one year and that, should Jack die, he would not claim his soul. The next year, Jack again tricked the Devil into climbing into a tree to pick a piece of fruit. While he was up in the tree, Jack carved a sign of the cross into the tree's bark so that the Devil could not come down until the Devil promised Jack not to bother him for ten more years.

Soon after, Jack died. As the legend goes, God would not allow such an unsavory figure into heaven. The Devil, upset by the trick Jack had played on him and keeping his word not to claim his soul, would not allow Jack into hell. He sent Jack off into the dark night with only a burning coal to light his way. Jack put the coal into a carved-out turnip and has been roaming the Earth with ever since. The Irish began to refer to this ghostly figure as "Jack of the Lantern," and then, simply "Jack O'Lantern."
In Ireland and Scotland, people began to make their own versions of Jack's lanterns by carving scary faces into turnips or potatoes and placing them into windows or near doors to frighten away Stingy Jack and other wandering evil spirits. In England, large beets are used. Immigrants from these countries brought the jack o'lantern tradition with them when they came to the United States. They soon found that pumpkins, a fruit native to America, make perfect jack o'lanterns
 

NoahsDad

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As European immigrants came to America, they brought their varied Halloween customs with them. Because of the rigid Protestant belief systems that characterized early New England, celebration of Halloween in colonial times was extremely limited there.
It was much more common in Maryland and the southern colonies. As the beliefs and customs of different European ethnic groups, as well as the American Indians, meshed, a distinctly American version of Halloween began to emerge. The first celebrations included "play parties," public events held to celebrate the harvest, where neighbors would share stories of the dead, tell each other's fortunes, dance, and sing. Colonial Halloween festivities also featured the telling of ghost stories and mischief-making of all kinds. By the middle of the nineteenth century, annual autumn festivities were common, but Halloween was not yet celebrated everywhere in the country.

In the second half of the nineteenth century, America was flooded with new immigrants. These new immigrants, especially the millions of Irish fleeing Ireland's potato famine of 1846, helped to popularize the celebration of Halloween nationally. Taking from Irish and English traditions, Americans began to dress up in costumes and go house to house asking for food or money, a practice that eventually became today's "trick-or-treat" tradition. Young women believed that, on Halloween, they could divine the name or appearance of their future husband by doing tricks with yarn, apple parings, or mirrors.
In the late 1800s, there was a move in America to mold Halloween into a holiday more about community and neighborly get-togethers, than about ghosts, pranks, and witchcraft
 
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