EEEHHHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! *happy dance*
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I have heard over 1,000 messages about the grace of Christ and never once heard anyone say we can go sin as much as you want because of grace!
Grace is NOT cheap!
It's free but it cost the life and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ to obtain it.
Let's honor our Lord and speak about His grace with reverence and thankfulness.
Grace is NOT cheap!
It's free but it cost the life and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ to obtain it.
Let's honor our Lord and speak about His grace with reverence and thankfulness.
Definitely...you can see God's grace when He brought the Jews out of Epypt....they were murmering and complaining..bickering..but God dispensed grace to them because of His covenant of grace with Abraham...Once the law came in..everything changed.
The law demand you do it. IF you do this then God will do this.
Grace of Christ says - He's done it for you..believe and receive..unmerited
Grace is free for all!... once you put a BUT you must do on it...you fall from grace..
Galatians 5:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
Whenever we ADD somethuing that we must do..we remove ourselves from the grace of Christ..It's all about Him and faith in Him alone!
Galatians 2:21 (NASB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] "I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly."
The law demand you do it. IF you do this then God will do this.
Grace of Christ says - He's done it for you..believe and receive..unmerited
Grace is free for all!... once you put a BUT you must do on it...you fall from grace..
Galatians 5:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
Whenever we ADD somethuing that we must do..we remove ourselves from the grace of Christ..It's all about Him and faith in Him alone!
Galatians 2:21 (NASB)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] "I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly."
Joh 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Yes friend, grace is free but not a free for all. Without God in your life there will not be grace (hope I am making sense now?)
The other thing that you have to consider is Jesus was there since before the creation of time. You make it sound as if grace was born with Jesus from the virgin Mary. Was Jesus not there before that? Grace came through Him but long before He appeared to this world in a human form
God bless brother.
Yes friend, grace is free but not a free for all. Without God in your life there will not be grace (hope I am making sense now?)
The other thing that you have to consider is Jesus was there since before the creation of time. You make it sound as if grace was born with Jesus from the virgin Mary. Was Jesus not there before that? Grace came through Him but long before He appeared to this world in a human form
God bless brother.
You see the thing is. Whether you go to church on a Saturday or me on a Sunday, doesn't prove either one of us loves God more than the other does it. Heck, neither of us are making any more effort than the other by going on a different day. So neither of us is putting ourself out more than the other.
But to obey Jesus commands you do have to put yourself out far more than you do by obeying OT laws don't you.
I mean, if I avoided the levitical unclean foods I wouldn't be bothered much of I did so, it wouldn't cost me hardly anything. I don't like pork that much and could forsake bacon easily enough.
But to actually deny having friends and family home for a meal, to instead invite the poor, lame, blind and beggars home for something g to eat, that really is putting yourself out, that really does show you are living out Christ's teaching far more than me, because I admit I don't do that, I would be lying if I said I did.
I wonder if Christ's commands are not harder to follow than the OT law for the Christian has the holy Spirit in them.
Do you think that might be why some prefer the old wine rather than the new? They don't have to put themselves out so much then for God do they. So they can believe they are living acceptable lives when they aren't really, for Christ's teaching isn't so much getting obeyed but the old covenant is. I don't mean you, for you have said you lay as great stress on Christ's commands as you do OT law
But to obey Jesus commands you do have to put yourself out far more than you do by obeying OT laws don't you.
I mean, if I avoided the levitical unclean foods I wouldn't be bothered much of I did so, it wouldn't cost me hardly anything. I don't like pork that much and could forsake bacon easily enough.
But to actually deny having friends and family home for a meal, to instead invite the poor, lame, blind and beggars home for something g to eat, that really is putting yourself out, that really does show you are living out Christ's teaching far more than me, because I admit I don't do that, I would be lying if I said I did.
I wonder if Christ's commands are not harder to follow than the OT law for the Christian has the holy Spirit in them.
Do you think that might be why some prefer the old wine rather than the new? They don't have to put themselves out so much then for God do they. So they can believe they are living acceptable lives when they aren't really, for Christ's teaching isn't so much getting obeyed but the old covenant is. I don't mean you, for you have said you lay as great stress on Christ's commands as you do OT law
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Joh 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Yes friend, grace is free but not a free for all. Without God in your life there will not be grace (hope I am making sense now?)
The other thing that you have to consider is Jesus was there since before the creation of time. You make it sound as if grace was born with Jesus from the virgin Mary. Was Jesus not there before that? Grace came through Him but long before He appeared to this world in a human form
God bless brother.
Yes friend, grace is free but not a free for all. Without God in your life there will not be grace (hope I am making sense now?)
The other thing that you have to consider is Jesus was there since before the creation of time. You make it sound as if grace was born with Jesus from the virgin Mary. Was Jesus not there before that? Grace came through Him but long before He appeared to this world in a human form
God bless brother.
Keeping the Sabbath doesn't mean you go to church on the Sabbath brother we go to church on Sunday
I will tell you this one story but for the sake of the story... not for anything else...
One day about three years ago my wife went to do "girly stuff" in town and when she got home she was crying uncontrollably. I thought something bad happened and the first thought that jumped into my head was she had an accident (or something stupid like that). I asked her what was wrong and she told me that she saw a lady with a child at one of the off-ramps hitchhiking and it was one of the coldest days of the year. I got into the car and drove to the off-ramp and the lady was still there with her child in her arms. I picked her up and took her home. My wife made stew the previous night and we fed them and listened to her story. She told us that she was travelling from Kimberley to the northern part of our country by train when she was robbed and she couldn't go any further. After we fed her and the baby we gave her money, clean and warm clothes and i took her to a taxi rank and of she went. Never to be heard from again.
This is a feel good story because we felt so blessed that we could actually make a small difference to somebody we didn't know
we go to church on Sunday I will tell you this one story but for the sake of the story... not for anything else...
One day about three years ago my wife went to do "girly stuff" in town and when she got home she was crying uncontrollably. I thought something bad happened and the first thought that jumped into my head was she had an accident (or something stupid like that). I asked her what was wrong and she told me that she saw a lady with a child at one of the off-ramps hitchhiking and it was one of the coldest days of the year. I got into the car and drove to the off-ramp and the lady was still there with her child in her arms. I picked her up and took her home. My wife made stew the previous night and we fed them and listened to her story. She told us that she was travelling from Kimberley to the northern part of our country by train when she was robbed and she couldn't go any further. After we fed her and the baby we gave her money, clean and warm clothes and i took her to a taxi rank and of she went. Never to be heard from again
. This is a feel good story because we felt so blessed that we could actually make a small difference to somebody we didn't know
Keeping the Sabbath doesn't mean you go to church on the Sabbath brother we go to church on Sunday
I will tell you this one story but for the sake of the story... not for anything else...
One day about three years ago my wife went to do "girly stuff" in town and when she got home she was crying uncontrollably. I thought something bad happened and the first thought that jumped into my head was she had an accident (or something stupid like that). I asked her what was wrong and she told me that she saw a lady with a child at one of the off-ramps hitchhiking and it was one of the coldest days of the year. I got into the car and drove to the off-ramp and the lady was still there with her child in her arms. I picked her up and took her home. My wife made stew the previous night and we fed them and listened to her story. She told us that she was travelling from Kimberley to the northern part of our country by train when she was robbed and she couldn't go any further. After we fed her and the baby we gave her money, clean and warm clothes and i took her to a taxi rank and of she went. Never to be heard from again.
This is a feel good story because we felt so blessed that we could actually make a small difference to somebody we didn't know
we go to church on Sunday I will tell you this one story but for the sake of the story... not for anything else...
One day about three years ago my wife went to do "girly stuff" in town and when she got home she was crying uncontrollably. I thought something bad happened and the first thought that jumped into my head was she had an accident (or something stupid like that). I asked her what was wrong and she told me that she saw a lady with a child at one of the off-ramps hitchhiking and it was one of the coldest days of the year. I got into the car and drove to the off-ramp and the lady was still there with her child in her arms. I picked her up and took her home. My wife made stew the previous night and we fed them and listened to her story. She told us that she was travelling from Kimberley to the northern part of our country by train when she was robbed and she couldn't go any further. After we fed her and the baby we gave her money, clean and warm clothes and i took her to a taxi rank and of she went. Never to be heard from again
. This is a feel good story because we felt so blessed that we could actually make a small difference to somebody we didn't know
However, in order for you to be telling me the truth here today, you would have to be obeying Christ's literal commands as earnestly as you observe a Saturday Sabbath wouldn't you.
Great story revealing the love of Christ is you and your wife! The Lord's heart leaped for joy as it was in face Him in you directing you to do that. Prasie God!
Jesus is our Sabbath rest!
Jesus is our Sabbath rest!
Keeping the Sabbath doesn't mean you go to church on the Sabbath brother we go to church on Sunday
I will tell you this one story but for the sake of the story... not for anything else...
One day about three years ago my wife went to do "girly stuff" in town and when she got home she was crying uncontrollably. I thought something bad happened and the first thought that jumped into my head was she had an accident (or something stupid like that). I asked her what was wrong and she told me that she saw a lady with a child at one of the off-ramps hitchhiking and it was one of the coldest days of the year. I got into the car and drove to the off-ramp and the lady was still there with her child in her arms. I picked her up and took her home. My wife made stew the previous night and we fed them and listened to her story. She told us that she was travelling from Kimberley to the northern part of our country by train when she was robbed and she couldn't go any further. After we fed her and the baby we gave her money, clean and warm clothes and i took her to a taxi rank and of she went. Never to be heard from again.
This is a feel good story because we felt so blessed that we could actually make a small difference to somebody we didn't know
we go to church on Sunday I will tell you this one story but for the sake of the story... not for anything else...
One day about three years ago my wife went to do "girly stuff" in town and when she got home she was crying uncontrollably. I thought something bad happened and the first thought that jumped into my head was she had an accident (or something stupid like that). I asked her what was wrong and she told me that she saw a lady with a child at one of the off-ramps hitchhiking and it was one of the coldest days of the year. I got into the car and drove to the off-ramp and the lady was still there with her child in her arms. I picked her up and took her home. My wife made stew the previous night and we fed them and listened to her story. She told us that she was travelling from Kimberley to the northern part of our country by train when she was robbed and she couldn't go any further. After we fed her and the baby we gave her money, clean and warm clothes and i took her to a taxi rank and of she went. Never to be heard from again
. This is a feel good story because we felt so blessed that we could actually make a small difference to somebody we didn't know
I agree!
Jesus was the greatest law preacher - to those who try to live by their own self-effort
Jesus was the greatest grace teacher to those who knew they needed to depend on Him alone and not themselves.
We always need to take the words of our Lord in view of "who" He was speaking to.
Don't take someone else's medicine!
Jesus was the greatest law preacher - to those who try to live by their own self-effort
Jesus was the greatest grace teacher to those who knew they needed to depend on Him alone and not themselves.
We always need to take the words of our Lord in view of "who" He was speaking to.
Don't take someone else's medicine!
My opinion is that the focus was a lot more on grace in the NT but the grace was there in the OT... because God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow
Jesus showed us grace while living the Torah
Jesus showed us grace while living the Torah
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Can you tell me, do you believe the following is the new covenant Gospel message of the route a Christian must follow to grow in holiness?
So my brothers you also died to the law through the body of Christ that you might belong to another to him that was raised from the dead rom7:4
Verse 6:
But now, by dying to what once bound us we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the spirit and not the old way of the written code( law)
Because through Christ Jesus the law of the spirit of life has set me free from the law of sin and death( the written code)
For what the law was powerless to do, in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man
In order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the spirit rom8:2-4
For the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control( Christs law)
Against such things there is no law gal5:22&23
Can you tell me, do you believe the following is the new covenant Gospel message of the route a Christian must follow to grow in holiness?
So my brothers you also died to the law through the body of Christ that you might belong to another to him that was raised from the dead rom7:4
Verse 6:
But now, by dying to what once bound us we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the spirit and not the old way of the written code( law)
Because through Christ Jesus the law of the spirit of life has set me free from the law of sin and death( the written code)
For what the law was powerless to do, in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man
In order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the spirit rom8:2-4
For the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control( Christs law)
Against such things there is no law gal5:22&23