How do we witness to the LGBT community?

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Magenta

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You calling me unrighteous?
LOL. Are you trying to be funny? That did make me laugh. There are none righteous, Lance. That is Scriptural. So according to your line of logic or reasoning, none will be inheriting the kingdom of God.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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It is God's standard not ours.

Gods standard is perfection.

So are you righteous? or am I? Or is anyone? Who lives up to that standard?
 
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LanceA

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well those passages (especially 2:1) would count anyone out of being righteous.
This was a thread on Homosexuals so that is why I used that example. I wasn't excluding any of the others on purpose.
 
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LanceA

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LOL. Are you trying to be funny? That did make me laugh. There are none righteous, Lance. That is Scriptural. So according to your line of logic or reasoning, none will be inheriting the kingdom of God.
I fully know that, just asking the question
 
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eternally-gratefull

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This was a thread on Homosexuals so that is why I used that example. I wasn't excluding any of the others on purpose.

I know you are.. I think we were trying to point out that the homosexual is no more righteous or less righteous than you are. When it comes to Gods standard, everyone of us fall short.

So who is it that inherits the kingdom of God? Who is righteous enough to do that?
 

Magenta

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I fully know that, just asking the question
All righty then :) I am off for a bit, but I shall be back later... or sooner, depending how you look at it ;) See you, and have a God blessed day!
 
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I know you are.. I think we were trying to point out that the homosexual is no more righteous or less righteous than you are. When it comes to Gods standard, everyone of us fall short.

So who is it that inherits the kingdom of God? Who is righteous enough to do that?
Never once did I say they were less righteous than me? Please point out where I said that?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Never once did I say they were less righteous than me? Please point out where I said that?

I am not trying to get into it, You asked her if she tried to say you were unrighteous. I was trying to explain..

Unrighteousness will not inherit the kingdom of God is the question. so who can inherit it if we are all unrighteous?


I think that is the point that was being made
 
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Please provide the Scriptures that show simply being gay is a sin. Not those that say acting on it, giving up their natural desires, being given over to their lusts etc. Just the plain and simple fact of being gay, show with Scripture how it is a sin. Thanks!
We have never taught that we should get as close to sin as we can without actually committing the act. Thats dangerous and the Bible doesn't teach that concept. As this article on homosexual celibacy points out...


The definingelement of same-sex attraction is desire for a sexual relationship with someone of the same sex. Once that desire is removed, it is no longer SSA. It is just friendship. In that sense, same-sex attraction is not a means to better, more holy friendships. It is an impediment to them. When one feels himself desiring a sexual relationship with a person of the same-sex, the only appropriate response is repentance from sin (2 Tim. 2:22). It is not right or helpful to think of that sinful attraction as the foundation for building holy friendships. It is not.


The nature of those attractions, as a matter of fact, is precisely what is in dispute at the moment. My hunch is that the Roman Catholic influence at spiritualfriendship.org has something to do with our differences over this question. Roman Catholics have historically approached the issue of indwelling sin much differently than Reformed protestants. The Roman Catholic view of “desire/lust” (or “concupiscence”) is that it is not necessarily sinful. As I mentioned earlier this week, the evangelical position has in the main taught the opposite. Reformed evangelicals believe that theBible teaches that desire for sin is sin.

http://www.christianity.com/christian-life/political-and-social-issues/celibate-gay-christians-is-that-biblical.html?p=0
 
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LanceA

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I am not trying to get into it, You asked her if she tried to say you were unrighteous. I was trying to explain..

Unrighteousness will not inherit the kingdom of God is the question. so who can inherit it if we are all unrighteous?


I think that is the point that was being made
Yep I did. I wasn't saying I wasn't unrighteous. Just asked a question back
 
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eternally-gratefull

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If you knew you were unrighteous, why then did you ask it. I am as confused as she obviously was, since your now saying you understood that.
 
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LanceA

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If you knew you were unrighteous, why then did you ask it. I am as confused as she obviously was, since your now saying you understood that.
Never said I didn't understand it. I just wanted her to say it instead of beating around the bush. You are assuming so basically you confused yourself.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Never said I didn't understand it. I just wanted her to say it instead of beating around the bush. You are assuming so basically you confused yourself.
lol. I never took what she said to mean you were unrighteous, she was just stating a fact.

So to us, it seemed you took offense. So I am not sure what the issue is, it seems your the one upset..


Your the one who brought the passage up (romans 1), W know those who practice sin will not inherit the kingdom. But who will. thats the point she was trying to make. What makes you different from them. Your not more perfect (righteous) so what is it that separates you from them?
 

Magenta

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Never said I didn't understand it. I just wanted her to say it instead of beating around the bush. You are assuming so basically you confused yourself.
Say what? That being gay in and of itself is not a sin? How many times do I need to say it? You may as well say that being human in and of itself is a sin.
 
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LanceA

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lol. I never took what she said to mean you were unrighteous, she was just stating a fact.

So to us, it seemed you took offense. So I am not sure what the issue is, it seems your the one upset..


Your the one who brought the passage up (romans 1), W know those who practice sin will not inherit the kingdom. But who will. thats the point she was trying to make. What makes you different from them. Your not more perfect (righteous) so what is it that separates you from them?
I'm not upset at all. I'm actually pretty happy. I'm not more perfect or more righteous. Not sure where you are getting this? This thread is about witnessing to homosexuals and it was brought up where does it say homosexuality is a sin. That is why I brought that up? Did you read the entire thread?
 
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LanceA

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Say what? That being gay in and of itself is not a sin? How many times do I need to say it? You may as well say that being human in and of itself is a sin.
No. That was toward the unrighteous conversation. lol
 

Magenta

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We have never taught that we should get as close to sin as we can without actually committing the act. Thats dangerous and the Bible doesn't teach that concept. As this article on homosexual celibacy points out...
Any Scriptures yet to say that being gay in and of itself is a sin? I am waiting... I do not need articles and deflections and rationalizations. I see enough (too much!) of that around here!
 
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LanceA

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I think I'm bowing out of this thread since two people here want to cause issues with me over something I never said. God bless all and Love ya
 

Magenta

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I think I'm bowing out of this thread since two people here want to cause issues with me over something I never said. God bless all and Love ya
You play the blame game? Not nice. I gave Scripture back to you. The very one you provided. Being gay is not a sin. Are you in agreement with that, then?