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You gotta be joking. The policies of the conservatives are getting people killed. Hello, Iraq War ring a bell? The conservatives are Pharisees indeed. The military all ready persecutes Christians. The conservatives send people to die in vain in their wars based on a lie of freedom. They promise them freedom but are totally corrupted! What freedoms did we gain from these wars that the rightists and leftists both sent my people to die in vain for? Typical conservative lies, say they have to make war for freedom then say they gotta take away freedoms because of the war. Anyone with common sense that says that's just a tad bit absurd they label as a liberal.
Point out how the conservatives have wrecked the house, they tell you to leave your own house! This is what happens when we let conservative frat boys and liberal hipsters run our country. They wreck the house then they start trying to persecute each other.
No one is getting kicked out, we're in this together.
No one is getting kicked out, we're in this together.
S
For somebody who claims to not be a liberal,
you sure talk alot of liberal fluff.
Conservatives don't want to wage war,
Conservatives want to win war.
Liberals want to sit on their laptops
and reap the rewards that others sacrifice
to win for them, spewing your liberal fluff
against the very ones that would save the same
sorry liberal soft ascot you use to sit on your laptop.
Your imaginary, hollywood liberal movies about
your toy kings and your dolly costumes have
caused your mind to blend the real world with
adolescent fantasy, and you need to stop,
or seriously...LEAVE AMERICA, before your
liberalism causes the erosion of what freedoms
we still have, (no thanks to you) and it becomes
Illegal to go.
But since you like your laptop so much,
how about using it to check out some sites like,
well, how about military aircraft sites...check out
some F-16's, FA-18's, or the Stealth or the Raptor,
check out what these machines are for, why we have
them, and get to know the men who pilot them.
Do you think you know Christians? Do you think
you know faithful men? You may be quite surprised
who the ppl are that you so readily disparage while
sitting on the comfort of your keyboard.
Or check out some sites dedicated to Medal of Honor
recipients, see if they have any conservative vs liberal views.
Same with wounded warriors of pennsylvania, local former
vets and National Guard who VOLUNTEER
their time and money helping other
soldiers and their families in wonderful ways,
many of whom are struggling because of your
liberal policies that hang our troops out to dry,
rather than engage and defeat evil and the enemy
swiftly and soundly, the way True conservatives
want, which, btw, would bring a quicker end to war
and actually SAVE lives, unlike you liberals, who think
It's all just another playstation fantasy role-playing game,
and causing countless more lives to be lost.
Find out what true conservatives actually believe,
and then tell them some of your liberal fluff,
see how it flies among genuine, not hollywood, heroes.
Someone else said it well, liberalism is not just a
mental disorder...it's a Dangerous mental disorder.
I pray, honestly, because I don't want to be your enemy,
and I want to believe your heart wants to be in the right place.
But your head is not anywhere near where it should be,
and I pray you have a change in view, for Jesus our Saviour,
and for America, the land He chose to do more to spread
His gospel and freedom from, than anywhere else, mostly
through the efforts of freedom-loving, America-supporting,
Christian conservatives, not anti-American, anti-christ liberals.
you sure talk alot of liberal fluff.
Conservatives don't want to wage war,
Conservatives want to win war.
Liberals want to sit on their laptops
and reap the rewards that others sacrifice
to win for them, spewing your liberal fluff
against the very ones that would save the same
sorry liberal soft ascot you use to sit on your laptop.
Your imaginary, hollywood liberal movies about
your toy kings and your dolly costumes have
caused your mind to blend the real world with
adolescent fantasy, and you need to stop,
or seriously...LEAVE AMERICA, before your
liberalism causes the erosion of what freedoms
we still have, (no thanks to you) and it becomes
Illegal to go.
But since you like your laptop so much,
how about using it to check out some sites like,
well, how about military aircraft sites...check out
some F-16's, FA-18's, or the Stealth or the Raptor,
check out what these machines are for, why we have
them, and get to know the men who pilot them.
Do you think you know Christians? Do you think
you know faithful men? You may be quite surprised
who the ppl are that you so readily disparage while
sitting on the comfort of your keyboard.
Or check out some sites dedicated to Medal of Honor
recipients, see if they have any conservative vs liberal views.
Same with wounded warriors of pennsylvania, local former
vets and National Guard who VOLUNTEER
their time and money helping other
soldiers and their families in wonderful ways,
many of whom are struggling because of your
liberal policies that hang our troops out to dry,
rather than engage and defeat evil and the enemy
swiftly and soundly, the way True conservatives
want, which, btw, would bring a quicker end to war
and actually SAVE lives, unlike you liberals, who think
It's all just another playstation fantasy role-playing game,
and causing countless more lives to be lost.
Find out what true conservatives actually believe,
and then tell them some of your liberal fluff,
see how it flies among genuine, not hollywood, heroes.
Someone else said it well, liberalism is not just a
mental disorder...it's a Dangerous mental disorder.
I pray, honestly, because I don't want to be your enemy,
and I want to believe your heart wants to be in the right place.
But your head is not anywhere near where it should be,
and I pray you have a change in view, for Jesus our Saviour,
and for America, the land He chose to do more to spread
His gospel and freedom from, than anywhere else, mostly
through the efforts of freedom-loving, America-supporting,
Christian conservatives, not anti-American, anti-christ liberals.
S
Oh my gosh my friend, how is that possible?! Now I'm thinking your just playing devil's advocate, and pulling our conservative leg. If so, you're doing an excellent job, lol. But if you're seriously, man, I just don't get it. Maybe you and I have completely diff meanings of the word?! How about a couple of topics to help decide...
Abortion, sanctity of life, :
Mostly the conservative view is pro-life, life begins at conception,
and should be protected.
Mostly the liberal view is pro-abortion, we don't know when life begins,
and it's not that important to protect.
Which view do you see Jesus/the bible on?
Which view do you see yourself on?
Homosexual, ordained to preach/teach from pulpit, :
Mostly, conservative view is no, liberal is yes.
Which view does Jesus/bible take? Or you?
Homosexual marriage:
Conservative no. Liberal yes.
What about Jesus/bible? Or you?
How can you take the liberal position and still side with Jesus/bible?
I just don't get it, GiS. Please clarify...
Abortion, sanctity of life, :
Mostly the conservative view is pro-life, life begins at conception,
and should be protected.
Mostly the liberal view is pro-abortion, we don't know when life begins,
and it's not that important to protect.
Which view do you see Jesus/the bible on?
Which view do you see yourself on?
Homosexual, ordained to preach/teach from pulpit, :
Mostly, conservative view is no, liberal is yes.
Which view does Jesus/bible take? Or you?
Homosexual marriage:
Conservative no. Liberal yes.
What about Jesus/bible? Or you?
How can you take the liberal position and still side with Jesus/bible?
I just don't get it, GiS. Please clarify...
Hey you! We can't talk to the spectators! it's not part of the game! Normally, if you were conservative, I would just declare me winner by default since you broke the rules and Utah never showed....but....I understand the difficulty in not responding to how hilarious this has become and now recognize the true legitimacy of a Monarchy (while, of course, rejecting the silly idea of the Conservative Statist). Whatever, Team Level-Headed (Bushido/GIS) vs. the Not-Muslim-But-Just-As-Radicalized Squad?
EDIT: Sorry I completely forgot to respond to your post. I'll do that right now
EDIT: Sorry I completely forgot to respond to your post. I'll do that right now
Ain't pulling your leg. Heck, most of what Mitspa says I've said when I was a pre-teen. The Bible testifies quite a bit against the conservative warmongers, nationalists, and oppressors of the poor. Bluntly, they are the Pharisees. Conservatives hold to traditions and the status quo. That's the Pharisees dude. Even one of the definitions of conservative is literally "of, relating to, or practicing conservative Judaism" That's literally the Pharisees. Conservative | Definition of conservative by Merriam-Webster
I'll say it one last time. I am not a leftist, if you want to debate a leftist, you wait for Sir Bushido to return.
On the issues you bring up:
Abortion - Abortion is evil, the leftists erred greatly doing this thing and the conservatives let it happen. I mean for real, you got Ben Carson whose experimented on aborted fetuses running in the GOP primary. The conservatives all talk about getting rid of abortion, but when they're given the authority to do it, they never do it. That US Constitution that the conservatives venerate allowed abortion to be legalized. If you believe in the Constitution then you have to allow abortion. I don't have to respect the Constitution though and I don't have to respect abortion. Abortion is indeed though moreso the fault of the leftists who shield it all the time and try to spread it, and a big reason I'll never be a leftist. I don't hate abortion though because some conservative told me to. I hate abortion because I know real people that have really had an abortion and how they were pressured into it and beguiled and the harm it's done to them. You can't even call abortion supporters liberals because of it. Death and infertility is the opposite of the meaning of the word liberal. The leftists are a parody of liberalism, just like the rightists are a parody of conservatism by holding to the vain traditions of one of the most leftist doctrines of all time, the US Constitution.
In the Bible though you should read how many of the saints wish they died in the womb. You should read how beloved Job wished he was never born. I've wished the same before also. Doesn't condone abortion, but it's some good food for thought.
On homosexuality; again the conservatives are just as guilty. Ain't John Roberts supposed be a conservative? Sure the leftist greatly disappoint me over this, especially with how they promote this filth to children. Again your beloved US Constitution is the reason this crap happens. The Bible is against homosexuality, and for good reason too, it's sexual abuse.
As for marriage, homosexuals can't get married, they don't got the parts for it. They can only abuse each other. Marriage isn't a ring and a ritual. Nor is marriage defined by the State as the conservatives think it is. Only when the two become one are they married and only a man and a woman got the parts for that. You can consider 1 Corinthians 6:16. While we're on the marriage stuff, what's up with all the conservatives divorcing and remarrying or outright telling people to do such? That's crap I expect from the leftists, but lo and behold the rightists are doing it too. Even their churches of stone condoning it! Pretty sure that ain't cool by the Bible either.
As for just general liberals. The leftists ain't liberals. The leftists aren't better than the rightists nor are the rightists better than the leftists, heck they vote for the same wars and the same oppressions. A true liberal wants bounty, prosperity, and generosity. You should ponder these words of Isaiah for a bit and gain some small understanding about kings and liberals.
Isaiah 32:1-8
1 Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And a man shall be as an hiding place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest; as rivers of water in a dry place, as the shadow of a great rock in a weary land.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And the eyes of them that see shall not be dim, and the ears of them that hear shall hearken.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]The heart also of the rash shall understand knowledge, and the tongue of the stammerers shall be ready to speak plainly.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the Lord, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.
I'll say it one last time. I am not a leftist, if you want to debate a leftist, you wait for Sir Bushido to return.
On the issues you bring up:
Abortion - Abortion is evil, the leftists erred greatly doing this thing and the conservatives let it happen. I mean for real, you got Ben Carson whose experimented on aborted fetuses running in the GOP primary. The conservatives all talk about getting rid of abortion, but when they're given the authority to do it, they never do it. That US Constitution that the conservatives venerate allowed abortion to be legalized. If you believe in the Constitution then you have to allow abortion. I don't have to respect the Constitution though and I don't have to respect abortion. Abortion is indeed though moreso the fault of the leftists who shield it all the time and try to spread it, and a big reason I'll never be a leftist. I don't hate abortion though because some conservative told me to. I hate abortion because I know real people that have really had an abortion and how they were pressured into it and beguiled and the harm it's done to them. You can't even call abortion supporters liberals because of it. Death and infertility is the opposite of the meaning of the word liberal. The leftists are a parody of liberalism, just like the rightists are a parody of conservatism by holding to the vain traditions of one of the most leftist doctrines of all time, the US Constitution.
In the Bible though you should read how many of the saints wish they died in the womb. You should read how beloved Job wished he was never born. I've wished the same before also. Doesn't condone abortion, but it's some good food for thought.
On homosexuality; again the conservatives are just as guilty. Ain't John Roberts supposed be a conservative? Sure the leftist greatly disappoint me over this, especially with how they promote this filth to children. Again your beloved US Constitution is the reason this crap happens. The Bible is against homosexuality, and for good reason too, it's sexual abuse.
As for marriage, homosexuals can't get married, they don't got the parts for it. They can only abuse each other. Marriage isn't a ring and a ritual. Nor is marriage defined by the State as the conservatives think it is. Only when the two become one are they married and only a man and a woman got the parts for that. You can consider 1 Corinthians 6:16. While we're on the marriage stuff, what's up with all the conservatives divorcing and remarrying or outright telling people to do such? That's crap I expect from the leftists, but lo and behold the rightists are doing it too. Even their churches of stone condoning it! Pretty sure that ain't cool by the Bible either.
As for just general liberals. The leftists ain't liberals. The leftists aren't better than the rightists nor are the rightists better than the leftists, heck they vote for the same wars and the same oppressions. A true liberal wants bounty, prosperity, and generosity. You should ponder these words of Isaiah for a bit and gain some small understanding about kings and liberals.
Isaiah 32:1-8
1 Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgment.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And a man shall be as an hiding place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest; as rivers of water in a dry place, as the shadow of a great rock in a weary land.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And the eyes of them that see shall not be dim, and the ears of them that hear shall hearken.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]The heart also of the rash shall understand knowledge, and the tongue of the stammerers shall be ready to speak plainly.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the Lord, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.
^THIS! And why I became an Anarchist. Even though I'm an Anarcho-Capitalist I would EASILY take Anarcho-Communism over a Statist society.
To this, I would say we have a different definition on what a Government is. A society's structure is not the same as its government. A government is a ruling body to enforce a society's structure over a population. The main society structures that fall under Anarchy are usually Communism or Capitalism, there can never be democracy as no rules affecting a human being who isn't affecting another human being can be given. This means that everybody has the capability to own a gun so crimes would actually be much harder to commit (for example, imagine trying to rob a police station, now expand that type of force to the rest of the world). There might be some chaos at first, but groups of people tend to have a natural way of setting up society structures. There's also the idea of Agorism if one is REALLY worried about crime in an anarchist society
I developed most of my Anarchist ideals while living in Alaska. In Alaska, everyone REALLY DOES own a gun and as much as America would like to claim Alaska under its governing body, there's 0 enforcement. police were rarely ever seen my town (you have 5 cops patrolling a 200-500 mile stretch). If 911 was called for any kind of law enforcement problem, nobody was coming. Alaskans have a pretty delicate way of handling their own problems without law enforcement
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While I would say that modeling a frame of government based on what can be found in the Bible would initially be a good idea, history seems to prove otherwise to me.
When you have all of your trust in Government (Marxists, take note), the government will always end up corrupt (if it survives that long) but still powerful enough to enforce their corrupt ways (like Germany was and America currently is). A monarchy becomes even more dangerous because you only have one man to corrupt. Being of Scottish descent, I'm ESPECIALLY not fond of earthly kings lol.
Anarchy would have to be a common ideal for it to work, which it is not and probably never will be unfortunately as groups of people (even in the Bible) seem to feel a want to be ruled and dominated by other people. Example: Somalia
Lastly, keep in mind that I'm not saying an Anarchist society would be sunshine and rainbows out the gate. A free society isn't the same thing as a civilized society.
To this, I would say we have a different definition on what a Government is. A society's structure is not the same as its government. A government is a ruling body to enforce a society's structure over a population. The main society structures that fall under Anarchy are usually Communism or Capitalism, there can never be democracy as no rules affecting a human being who isn't affecting another human being can be given. This means that everybody has the capability to own a gun so crimes would actually be much harder to commit (for example, imagine trying to rob a police station, now expand that type of force to the rest of the world). There might be some chaos at first, but groups of people tend to have a natural way of setting up society structures. There's also the idea of Agorism if one is REALLY worried about crime in an anarchist society
I developed most of my Anarchist ideals while living in Alaska. In Alaska, everyone REALLY DOES own a gun and as much as America would like to claim Alaska under its governing body, there's 0 enforcement. police were rarely ever seen my town (you have 5 cops patrolling a 200-500 mile stretch). If 911 was called for any kind of law enforcement problem, nobody was coming. Alaskans have a pretty delicate way of handling their own problems without law enforcement
.While I would say that modeling a frame of government based on what can be found in the Bible would initially be a good idea, history seems to prove otherwise to me.
When you have all of your trust in Government (Marxists, take note), the government will always end up corrupt (if it survives that long) but still powerful enough to enforce their corrupt ways (like Germany was and America currently is). A monarchy becomes even more dangerous because you only have one man to corrupt. Being of Scottish descent, I'm ESPECIALLY not fond of earthly kings lol.
Anarchy would have to be a common ideal for it to work, which it is not and probably never will be unfortunately as groups of people (even in the Bible) seem to feel a want to be ruled and dominated by other people. Example: Somalia
Lastly, keep in mind that I'm not saying an Anarchist society would be sunshine and rainbows out the gate. A free society isn't the same thing as a civilized society.
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Lol I never agreed to your self-made anarchist rules though and Siberian didn't set the rule saying no talking to the peanuts. Lol I said I'd be willing to take on 80 by myself if need be lol. Way I see it, game is still on, but I mean, if you want to concede that's always fine by me. Don't look at it as losing either. Why be a slave to leftism or anarchy anymore than conservatism and statism when you can be a king according to the Bible thanks to Jesus? (Revelation 5)
I would see Jesus with the Anarchist's view, condemning the acts but not bombing the clinic
I would see myself with an Anarchist's view, condemning the acts but not bombing the clinic.
I would say Jesus would have an Anarchist's view. Condemning the act but not stoning the preacher.
I would say I would have an Anarchist's view. Condemning the act but not stoning the preacher.
I think you get the pattern.
Because just as much as Jesus wouldn't be ok with killing unborn babies, He wouldn't be ok with the conservative right not batting an eye when the US bombs a hospital full of sick people but cries like babies a couple weeks later when some people get killed by Muslims in Paris.
Because just as much as Jesus wouldn't be ok with gays getting married, He probably wouldn't be ok with Conservatives rejecting child refugees from Syria because they are afraid of terrorists getting in. Even though conservatives want to have guns, they seem to not believe in using them....odd.
I would see myself with an Anarchist's view, condemning the acts but not bombing the clinic.
I would say Jesus would have an Anarchist's view. Condemning the act but not stoning the preacher.
I would say I would have an Anarchist's view. Condemning the act but not stoning the preacher.
I think you get the pattern.
Because just as much as Jesus wouldn't be ok with killing unborn babies, He wouldn't be ok with the conservative right not batting an eye when the US bombs a hospital full of sick people but cries like babies a couple weeks later when some people get killed by Muslims in Paris.
Because just as much as Jesus wouldn't be ok with gays getting married, He probably wouldn't be ok with Conservatives rejecting child refugees from Syria because they are afraid of terrorists getting in. Even though conservatives want to have guns, they seem to not believe in using them....odd.
Lol a king ain't ruled over by an earthly king though, only by the King of Kings. Sure the world will still persecute us, but that's to be expected. The police is a good example. Do the police rule over us or do we rule over them? If he stops me is he persecuting me like a Nazi, or is he simply doing the job I commissioned him to do?
I liked your lengthier post, much disagreement but you do bring some interesting points, and I will have fun with it, but I will have to get to that later, stayed up way too late lol.
I liked your lengthier post, much disagreement but you do bring some interesting points, and I will have fun with it, but I will have to get to that later, stayed up way too late lol.
We didn't know about any concentration camps until we were knee deep in the war already. That's like going to war with Australia for 4 years and finding out that they've been murdering gay people for the last 9 years....after we turned away gay Australian refugees...because thats what WE did to the Jews trying to flee from Nazi Germany at the beginning of the Holocaust.
Also, back to the point. A holocaust could only have happened with a Statist nation like the US and Germany and not an Anarchist society.
Also, back to the point. A holocaust could only have happened with a Statist nation like the US and Germany and not an Anarchist society.
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